Bumble He posted:

where good space sims shine though, i mean some important ingredients are:
- the atmosphere
- a sense of wonder
- a good briefing
- the ability to target/scan/distribute energy etc.

what i remember about space-sims is that they would really draw you in and let you in fact chill and forget about other stuff.
you were “in the zone“ but not necessarily because what you saw on screen was so exciting and packed with fast cuts and jump scares, but because you wanted to be in this universe.

and that to me would be an important point: make the player want to be part of this universe.

and to me modern games often cannot deliver this feeling, i do not want a collectathon, i do not want to level up, i do not need a power fantasy, but i want a universe where im like yes i want to be part of this!

but that means that every little aspect of this universe needs to fit, because yeah it needs to be better than real life.

(i dont know where my post is going tbh, i lost track of my thoughs here)

lobsterminator posted:

My dream is to be the low level crew member of someone who is experiencing that escapist dream in an Idris.

Sectopod posted:

RE: Being bad with money



Why yes, I bought a Robertsian space pewpew game for a failed console, ported by Crave Entertainment (known for console shovel ware)
So I was ordering some other Dreamcast stuff and saw this for ~30 funbux and thought "I wonder how this plays on a console?"
And as it turns out... it's pretty okay-ish. The controls for flying and shooting feel pretty good with the DC controller, targeting of specific ships/subsystems is an awkward mess, but the game automatically switches to mission critical targets most of the times when you need it to.
The game itself is nothing new to me, since I own the original PC version (to be precise: I own the German localized version which has some of the cringiest voice acting in PC gaming history)

Pros:
- One of the few DC titles that supports 16:9 aspect ratio out of the box, and the game looks overall quite good
- To safe space, they cut out most of the FMV garbage between missions (clicking on objects in your cabin, walking to the briefing room, etc.), so it's just mission briefing -> fighter selection -> fighter loadout -> short FMV of pilots running to their ship -> pewpew , which streamlines the game experience in a good way
- Some good looking original fighter designs, that managed to avoid the usual Wing Commander trope of jet-fighters-in space

Cons:
- Well, it's still Starlancer, so the story is hot garbage: It's WWII in SPACE, this time even with Pearl Harbor in SPACE, but with the sides mixed up a bit: The Alliance (USA, UK, Germany, France, Italy, Japan) vs the evil Eastern Coalition (Russia, China, Arab States)
- Also still Starlancer: Dogfighting in this game is way too easy, so to introduce some difficulty the game relies way too much on you having to escort friendly capital ships, while waves of enemy bombers drop in from multiple angles to launch their torpedoes simultaneously. Have fun trying to shoot them all down in time while trying to avoid the splash damage from the torps.
- In contrast to the interesting fighter designs, the art team seems to have completely ran out of ideas when it came to capital ship designs. So we ended with a bunch of boxes that are glued together randomly (and the Japanese get a carrier design ripped straight out of Starship Troopers)

Overall, still a better investment than dropping $45 for a SC starter package.

Gort posted:

I know someone who worked for a gambling site (bingo, in this case) and it was all women doing this exact thing to their husbands. I don't understand how people can live like that.

TheAgent posted:

chris roberts has mentioned he'll move 10 million units of SQ42 in the first year its released (lol)

that's what they are banking on 100%

Thoatse posted:

100% of the people that have Star Citizen are already owned

peter gabriel posted:

I feel a disturbance in my force

Sectopod posted:

RE: Being bad with money



[…]

Pros:
- One of the few DC titles that supports 16:9 aspect ratio out of the box, and the game looks overall quite good
- To safe space, they cut out most of the FMV garbage between missions (clicking on objects in your cabin, walking to the briefing room, etc.), so it's just mission briefing -> fighter selection -> fighter loadout -> short FMV of pilots running to their ship -> pewpew , which streamlines the game experience in a good way
- Some good looking original fighter designs, that managed to avoid the usual Wing Commander trope of jet-fighters-in space

The Titanic posted:

I had that around the same time as Privateer 2 which, while I loved the FMVs, I hated the actual gameplay segments, and that was what all she wrote for me for space games for a long time

Tippis posted:

Biggest pro: like the vast majority of Robertsian games, it wasn't made by Chris Roberts.


Same with this. You can easily tell with Privateer 2, though, by the amount of actual creativity that went into those FMVs. I also wouldn't be surprised if there there's some horrid backstory to why so little effort was put into the actual gameplay, where CRobber made sure that any such funds were diverted to some other vanity project of his.

quote:

While the offer to ensure his staff are comfortable is surely welcome for the hundreds of developers at Techland, you might find it difficult to report a concern about your boss when the HR manager is his wife.

Techland’s CEO originally hired his wife, Aleksandra “Ola” Marchewka, to handle interior design and construction for the company’s new offices. Before Techland, she was a freelance legal consultant, according to her LinkedIn profile. After two years as a consultant, she became the only female board member at Techland. In February 2020, she took on the role of acting chief HR officer - according to her public work history, without prior experience in HR. Does Marchewka consider this a conflict of interest?

“No I don’t,” he tells me via email. “My wife is a professional and we have a professional relationship at work.”

Tippis posted:

Same with this. You can easily tell with Privateer 2, though, by the amount of actual creativity that went into those FMVs. I also wouldn't be surprised if there there's some horrid backstory to why so little effort was put into the actual gameplay, where CRobber made sure that any such funds were diverted to some other vanity project of his.

Some Goon posted:

I don't get why y'all give any mind to this shambling corpsepuppet of a game anymore, but drat if y'all don't have the best animal gifs.

Extra Large Marge posted:

Did they ever fix the bug where your heart explodes if you sprint for too long?

marumaru posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/lq7maj/professionbased_gameplay_and_longterm_player/

who's gonna tell him

Some Goon posted:

I don't get why y'all give any mind to this shambling corpsepuppet of a game anymore, but drat if y'all don't have the best animal gifs.

marumaru posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/lq7maj/professionbased_gameplay_and_longterm_player/

who's gonna tell him

Bumble He posted:

where good space sims shine though, i mean some important ingredients are:
- the atmosphere
- a sense of wonder
- a good briefing
- the ability to target/scan/distribute energy etc.

what i remember about space-sims is that they would really draw you in and let you in fact chill and forget about other stuff.
you were “in the zone“ but not necessarily because what you saw on screen was so exciting and packed with fast cuts and jump scares, but because you wanted to be in this universe.

and that to me would be an important point: make the player want to be part of this universe.

and to me modern games often cannot deliver this feeling, i do not want a collectathon, i do not want to level up, i do not need a power fantasy, but i want a universe where im like yes i want to be part of this!

but that means that every little aspect of this universe needs to fit, because yeah it needs to be better than real life.

(i dont know where my post is going tbh, i lost track of my thoughs here)

marumaru posted:

Pros: Only one calculation is needed speeding things up. This allows as many layers of servers needed. So if 50 people are in one spot, 50 servers can be 'spun up' so each person has their own server while occuping the same space, meaning ZERO latency and ZERO lag. Limit to FPS suddenly is only decided by how many servers you can 'spin up', and Amazon server farm is the largest server farm in the world... ergo, CIG can spin up as many as they need. Allowing them to run 5000+player battles by just spinning up 500 servers that now run like there's only 10 on each. Limit of the game becomes limited instead, less by server issues, and instead by the client. So how much can your GPU handle onscreen at once before your tower catches fire.

marumaru posted:

marumaru posted:

The version that Star Citizen wish to do, is Dynamic Server Meshing, which according to my friend, is beyond insane. It's actually never been done before, but has apparently, always been a theorised system. But no ones been enough of a 'madman' to do it. .... Let me break it down how he broke it down for me. ....

Pros: Only one calculation is needed speeding things up. This allows as many layers of servers needed. So if 50 people are in one spot, 50 servers can be 'spun up' so each person has their own server while occuping the same space, meaning ZERO latency and ZERO lag. Limit to FPS suddenly is only decided by how many servers you can 'spin up', and Amazon server farm is the largest server farm in the world... ergo, CIG can spin up as many as they need. Allowing them to run 5000+player battles by just spinning up 500 servers that now run like there's only 10 on each. Limit of the game becomes limited instead, less by server issues, and instead by the client. So how much can your GPU handle onscreen at once before your tower catches fire.

Cons: Zero. System is a theoretical perfect system. Only problem is that the concept of layering a server ontop of each other like this is a coding nightmare of beyond godly preportions which is the only reason no ones bothered to actually try it until now.

Every other game goes by the 'halfmeasure'. I beleive (though I might be wrong) that DU works on a system thats a gridded server system. Where one server can be broken down into many different grids of servers, which helps, but doesnt stop it from lagging when you have a lot of people in a singular tight space. I know eve using standard static, which is why they drop to 2fps during massive battles (they call this time dilation, its really just them controlling the lag).

But Chris Roberts doesnt do half measures... so of COURSE he'd go for the 'best' but 'hardest' way.

UnknownTarget posted:

I'm confused...won't you still hit lag issues with every server sending data to the players and to the other servers?

I thought it was lag, not server hardware, that was the limiting factor?

UnknownTarget posted:

I'm confused...won't you still hit lag issues with every server sending data to the players and to the other servers?

I thought it was lag, not server hardware, that was the limiting factor?

UnknownTarget posted:

I'm confused...won't you still hit lag issues with every server sending data to the players and to the other servers?

I thought it was lag, not server hardware, that was the limiting factor?

UnknownTarget posted:

I'm confused...won't you still hit lag issues with every server sending data to the players and to the other servers?

I thought it was lag, not server hardware, that was the limiting factor?

marumaru posted:

just spinning up 500 servers

Cons: Zero.

Flannelette posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

Why hasn't every other game thought of the "One server per player" solution? In fact we could just take the servers offline and cut out latency entirely! Imagine opening up Skyrim and it's just a whole world ready for you to explore, instanced right there on your PC!

Chris Roberts has saved PC gaming again, all he has to do is make 5000 copies of Skyrim that all talk to each other in perfect synchronicity.