Thoatse posted:

https://i.imgur.com/LlM6XgP.gifv

EmesiS posted:

Never forget.



Its an older joke, but it checks out.

DJNaviss posted:

The only way a company will listen is when they aren't getting money. No matter how big you are, At some point money will bring them back down to earth. Took a few years for EA to learn it, But they all do when the money stops.

Why should CIG update us? Or tell us anything when they make millions each month. Sure giving the community some updates may increase sales but overall they aren't losing anything by not saying anything.

Edit: I should say, I'm not telling people to stop funding the game. Never do that. I'm just saying CIG really has no reason to do what we ask when we're giving them what they need (Money).

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I don't log on when American Millennials (oops - Gen Zs) are up and about posted:

I'm American, so take that into consideration while reading this. I like to trade, mine, explore, do box missions, and maybe a little bounty hunting when the mood strikes. I've learned there is an appropriate time of the day (and server group) for each activity - and many activities are completely impossible about the time that the "Youth of America" are running amok. Spawn a ship, get pad-rammed. Fly near PO, get space rammed. Land at a trading post, get dirt-rammed. I even got rammed by a ship while on foot once. I'm green, not red - or I would have been shot in those instances.

I'd like to say we need a defense against ramming, but sometimes the good guy needs to ram the bad guy to stop him from sinister works. Maybe that ramming should be so costly to the rammer that its consequences need to be weighed before using it as a weapon. Maybe the rammer should die and respawn at a location so far from a spaceport that it gives everybody 1/2 hour of peace.

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You're making assumptions about who and where these trolls are. There are more people in America, which means that even minorities seem very loud and vocal, and there seems to be more of them when there isn't really. I can log onto US servers, how would you know know what region I was in if I didn't tell you?

There has been an up-tick in the frequency of those who seem to have a grudge against the game in the last year or so. Previously they were mainly evident on outside social media sites like Reddit for example, however something changed. CIG instituted a policy that you could get a game package temporarily at zero cost. You buy the game, you get in and troll both the RSI forums and the game, then refund. Rinse and repeat.

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths that those who seem to have a grudge will go to just to spread constant FUD and negativity about a game development company and it's community. One has to wonder.. why don't they just go and find something they DO like? But then, perhaps they just like to be assholes all the time? you know, CIG don't require a mental health fitness report from relevant healthcare specialists to buy a game package and log in. It takes a certain set of personality traits to get frustrated and annoyed that everyone doesn't think and feel the way 'you' do. People often assume they hold the majority view, when they don't, especially when they only pay attention to those they agree with and dismiss those with whom they don't agree.

The only question I think worth asking is: If we all had their impatient negative attitude, would there be a game and community to complain about? Did we get here by never-ending FUD and negativity? No we didn't and even now we still don't. They are a minority, loud to be sure, but still a tiny minority. The vast majority who have supported this project are happy playing the game and being inspired to create content about it to share with others, very few even bother to visit the forums. It's the same names, the same arguments from the 'I'll make 10 threads per day in the forums' merchants. They become a parody of themselves after a while because they are so predictable. They don't realise perhaps that we old timers see these 'personalities' come and go with monotonous regularity. They think they are bringing something new, we know they aren't.

If you land on a toxic server, log out and back in - you can choose to change regions. If you can't find a group you are happy with stay away from other players as much as you can in this massive play space and close the chat window, or join a group you are happy with and team up.

This last year (indeed the last several years) have lead to polarisation of countries, communities, ideologies and those with agendas and axes to grind, it's no wonder that some of it spills into a game frequented by multiple thousands of human beings from around the World per day. It's just like real life, you avoid those places and people that cause you distress and annoyance - it is not a persons birthright never to be offended or annoyed by life and the people in it. I've travelled the World and there are places that I love to go, cultures I find charming and fascinating - and there are places in the World that I would never go to even if someone gave me a free ticket to get there and all expenses paid. Preferences are not prejudices, though people seem to confuse them as such these days in my view. I blame the 'popularity vote' culture.. there seems an imperative to always state preferences and thus show allegiances.

Learn the strategies to avoid those you find difficult to cope with now, such tactics will come in useful later. We always knew that the game would eventually attract large numbers, it needed to.

There are those who insist they are adding to the development by asking versions of 'When, When, When. It's a question that has been asked constantly since day one, but perhaps they don't realise that? The only reasonable answer is, we know the developers are working as hard as they can and as every adult knows 'When' - will be when it is good and ready. We went the crowdfunding route to avoid investors demanding 'When' and 'Get it out by Christmas to suit me and my profits!' because we knew that the best only comes with time and resources.The time and resources that other traditional game developers would never agree to sending. The best is worth waiting for and we have better than most other games can offer already with what we have, with the absolute expectation that it will only get better and better with time. Which other 'finished game' can you say that about? All updates and additions are free from the day you make your base pledge - Chris started the process, but it was the community who drove the project beyond his initial vision, and we still do. Some don't like the idea that their original view of what the project should be - changed. They like suggesting polls, but they don't like that the majority prefer what we have now instead of what was originally planned, if they didn't why isn't this forum swamped with millions of people demanding what they are demanding? Having an opinion about the project and how it is developing is fine, but as Chris says - It's not a democracy.

Are some impatient - well yes.
Will they always be? Well yes, they are only human after all.
What they want is what we all want, only some of us have a more realistic view of what it takes to get it.

Those 'young' players might think 8 - 10 years is an eternity to wait because they don't usually know that they are waiting since most development goes on in secret.. but we old folks view time differently. Next year I will be 60 years old. I'm lucky I have less of the infirmities that come with age than some suffer, but even so 8 - 10 years means a lot of change potentially. Would I still have supported the project knowing how long it would take - knowing how huge it was going to be? Hell yes! The whole point was to try doing something that no other game developer would ever dream of trying - comparing this project to other game studio efforts only re-affirms that belief, we HAD TO do it differently. Am I happy when younger newer players discover this amazing experience, even though some of them need to do a little growing up? Hell yes! that was the whole point, it was never intended to be a little niche project!

I was a bit of a tear-away when I was kid - You learn.

iospace posted:

Insert caught up with thread gif here.

Lol

no_recall posted:

Stay safe commando, and play star citizen.

The Titanic posted:

Now that you mention it, Star Citizen was one of the last games I played before going back to the hospital. Coincidence???

monkeytek posted:

There is really nothing past 3.11?

Thoatse posted:

Colostomy Bag posted:

I think that drat hot plate shows up every once in a while with Amazon.

The Titanic posted:

One thing you need to learn about it all is that it is a party all the way to the bottom.

Thoatse posted:

I'm still trying to reconcile the fact Chris Roberts has been in your poop deck and there's never been a mention of it yet. I only have one question though, was the band on deck playing Full Burn?

Thoatse posted:

Is this the item that got a stimperical review?

Thoatse posted:

This one was labeled GoldenParp

https://i.imgur.com/2l5D8hk.gifv

monkeytek posted:

There is really nothing past 3.11?

Dreadwroth2 posted:

I'm super tickled that some people in this thread have apparently never looked into proper flight sims, those are the most expensive games made if you want everything. Just check out Eagle Dynamics' prices for DCS modules.
Like if you want just the F16 it will run you $80 alone for just the jet, and it can get way crazier with all the peripheral controller things like a yoke, pedals, usb instrument panels and so on.

Pixelate posted:

e: I was sure that would be a snipe

Mirificus posted:

but sometimes the good guy needs to ram the bad guy to stop him from sinister works.

Popete posted:

Look they only had 1 month at the start of the year to plan what they were gonna do the next 11 months (minus 4 months leading up to CitCon where they have to gin up a completely disconnected demo trailer). You can't expect them to be able to look past the next patch or two with such a short time frame.

an actual frog posted:

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In developing Squadrons’ gameplay, Frazier and his team were determined to get the feel of Star Wars space combat as authentic as possible with the help of Lucasfilm. This meant research and a lot of testing. The first thing the Motive team did, according to Frazier, was rewatch all of the films and discuss how Star Wars space battles are unique from those seen in other sci-fi franchises, making particular note of the influence from WWII aerial combat footage. They also replayed classic Star Wars flight games, as well as the Starfighter Assault mode from Battlefront II and several other space combat games.

“Once the team was in the right head space, we built out the core flight model for the X-wing and TIE fighter, fundamental systems like targeting, and the power management mechanic that lets players divert energy to engines, lasers, or shields, which is where a lot of the interesting moment-to-moment tactical choices are made,” Frazier says. “We got that basic prototype up and running on both traditional display and VR, then started daily team playtests. Each day we’d play PVP dogfights — pure X-wing versus TIE fighter mayhem — debrief and discuss key feedback, then make some changes and give it another go the next day. That constant cycle of playtest and iteration continued as the team and the scope of the game grew, and it still continues today.”

G0RF posted:

STARWARS.COM: PILOTS WANTED: HOW LUCASFILM AND MOTIVE STUDIOS HATCHED STAR WARS: SQUADRONS – EXCLUSIVE


Just look at those idiots. Watching old movies, playing classic games, fleshing our a flight model first then playtesting like crazy on 2D and VR systems to refine it all.

Chris will show them the folly of their antiquated, backassward ways. He will show them all.

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“Fundamentally, we want to let players sit inside an X-wing or TIE fighter and really feel like they’re there, with a level of control and fidelity that makes the whole experience feel real. We want you to master the controls, form up with your squadron, and be an ace pilot in the midst of an epic space battle,” Frazier says.

trucutru posted:

In some water is wet news: ToW sucks, no more info is given, they are probably going to start over

Popete posted:

Literally everything CIG implements has to be redone, at what point do Citizens realize they have no idea what they're doing?

Oops we couldn't even get a basic Battlefield clone with 40 players working, just give us another 2 years and we'll re-release this after everyone has forgotten about it and moved on to our Battle Royal mode.

colonelwest posted:

2 years of work on a game mode that no one wanted, just to scarp the whole thing in the end. Classic.

Now the Citizens are just writing it all off as normal and good because Chris has such high standards; instead of seeing it as further proof that CIG is utterly incompetent and a Sisyphean hell.