Ponzi posted:

Joe Blobers is back!


I'm glad his enthusiasm isn't waning.

HiroProtagonist posted:

i must be too internet-poisoned but wtf is "IK"?

Thoatse posted:

Inverse Kinematics unless you obviously don't understand anything about game development in which case it's Idiot King

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So standard development upsets you? Perhaps you might want to check out until it is done, then? Just a thought. The flight system won't be finished until all the types of planets that they plan to release are done. If that sounds unrelated, you aren't following the development close enough.

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Having done this for over 20 years, this is better than most projects, but still quite typical (excluding the current circumstance). But my claim is only anecdotal, but I can point out that Brian Chambers and Tony Zurovec have reputations for leaving projects that don't have clear vision and direction. So as long as both those leads are a part of the project, I'm satisfied that it is in good hands.

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Old reputations that are over a decade in the past. Erin has a current reputation for completing projects on time (which is why he is the head of the project), so that counters your points. THEN you have Brian and Tony. The evidence is clearly still on the side of CIG, even if everything you said is true today.

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Chris has done the "impossible" before. Remember:

All the possible has been done.
All the impossible has YET to be done.

Not being able to imagine the final product doesn't mean it won't happen, just that you might lack the imagination

Mirificus posted:

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All the possible has been done.
All the impossible has YET to be done.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/CloudImperium/status/1289267189183180801

AbstractNapper posted:

Oh, this is going to go well.

Nyast posted:

These numbers don't even make sense. Like, let's assume this chart is correct:



The surface of a sphere is 4.pi.r^2

If you sum up the surface area for all these moons ( excluding Crusader, which is a gas giant and has no surface ) you get about 47 millions sq. Km.

Even if you add Crusader ( 700 millions sq. Km ) you're "barely" at 750 millions sq. Km.

I'm not sure how you can even reach 1.6 quadrillion sq. km. Counting the "empty space" ? But there's no surface area there, volume would make more sense, but that's not what the guy said. Also, extrapolating a surface area from 2^64 bits ? That literally makes no sense: floating point numbers aren't linear, and even if they were, you still have to define what a unit means ( 1.0 = one meter ? one kilometer ? one millimeter ? ). And even after all of that, a single number only defines a dimension, not a surface. These people are completley clueless.

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Yep. Most of us that have been here for a long time realize that CIG always gets quiet around this time of year. Literally every year. They get quiet, then we usually get some cool surprises and fun stuff from CitizenCon / Anniversary Stream and so on.

I remember years ago when we first learned about procedural planets. My goodness, there was NO indication they were working on that. They didn't even tease anything, it was just silence and then suddenly "Oh and also take a look at this..." drops bombshell

People take for granted a lot of the stuff we've had delivered on purely surprise, no prior notice, over the years. CIG is really good at hiding stuff they want to surprise us with, and an excess of silence to me is not a problem so much as an indication that they're trying to set up a reveal.

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Criticism is needed, but make sure you have a good reason for doing it. Keep in mind that a LARGE amount of criticism has been leveled at CIG for a long time now by people who have no intent to make it constructive, but are instead trying to damage CIG (which will no longer work) or damage the community that follows Star Citizen, all of us (which absolutely IS working sadly).

If you want to put out criticism, you need to be careful how you approach doing so or you will be lumped in with the trolls and haters. For good reason - you're adding fuel to the fire they've built, whether you actually agree with them or not.

Acting ignorant that there are trolls and haters, or that you're fueling the fire they built and continue to fuel, is not going to win you any points from those of us who want to fight those fires.

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You really want to see a generic Carrack screenshot for the 100th time?

Yes. Because that's a positive thing.

Another thread with people upset that they haven't heard exactly what they want to hear about SQ42 is completely unnecessary. If there's no news, there's nothing to talk about, so stop talking about no-news. Its literally being negative just to spread negativity even further, to drag the whole community down!

If there's not much going on, then the subreddit will have to fall back on good old player content like screenshots, videos, stories we share, discussions on how we think upcoming things might work, etc. etc..

Mirificus posted:

Yes. Because that's a positive thing.

Another thread with people upset that they haven't heard exactly what they want to hear about SQ42 is completely unnecessary. If there's no news, there's nothing to talk about, so stop talking about no-news. Its literally being negative just to spread negativity even further, to drag the whole community down!

If there's not much going on, then the subreddit will have to fall back on good old player content like screenshots, videos, stories we share, discussions on how we think upcoming things might work, etc. etc..

Nyast posted:

Also, extrapolating a surface area from 2^64 bits ? That literally makes no sense

L. Ron Hoover posted:

How did he come up with that number? Simple. He put 2 grains of rice on the square of a chessboard. Chris Roberts said, with your support I will double the amount of rice on each subsequent square. They said it couldn't be done. They said it was impossible. But with your support, we can make this dream a reality!!!

Mirificus posted:

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So standard development upsets you? Perhaps you might want to check out until it is done, then? Just a thought. The flight system won't be finished until all the types of planets that they plan to release are done. If that sounds unrelated, you aren't following the development close enough.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/subvegio/status/1288992225347674112
https://twitter.com/subvegio/status/1289315335724818433

monkeytek posted:

Actually, we can't even take the discussion of a game as being part of the offering. In fact he owes us nothing!

Can we just clear this up once and for all? People seem to be having trouble with this concept. You are entitled to nothing posted:

You are entitled to nothing.

This game has not been released yet. It is not polished. It is not finished. It is in development. Things may change. It may break tomorrow and not come back for a while.
If you don't like this arrangement, then don't give CIG your money. That's how this works. It's as simple as that. Did you read all the little words that popped up before you gave some stranger on the internet your money? Who gives some stranger on the internet their money without first reading to see what the terms would be? If you gave this stranger on the internet your money, you did it so that he could make the video game that he really, really wanted to make. You did not do it to be handed a finished product. If you did, not only are you doing it wrong, but I have a game to sell you...I think you'll really like it.

Why are people having so much trouble with this concept? If you're not comfortable with handing over your money for something that may or may not ever materialize, come back when the game is released. We'll be happy to have you. But until then, just remember that you are entitled to nothing.

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Except it's not a right. We don't have a right to be included or listened to or anything. It's a privilege and a blessing and I'm grateful for it.

But it says right in the two little boxes we have to check before Chris lets us give him our money:

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You acknowledge that the game is currently in development. Parts of the game are made available in alpha versions for your testing and feedback. Naturally, alpha releases will have bugs and other deficiencies. We encourage community feedback but the final game design decisions rest solely with us as developer. Any deficiencies of alpha releases, or any game design decisions may not be considered a breach of our obligations, and will not entitle you to a refund.

By placing your order, you acknowledge that you have read, understood and accepted our Terms of Service in particular, section Fundraising & Pledges.

I cannot reiterate this enough. For the privilege of giving Chris our money, we are entitled to nothing. He is obligated to give us nothing.

I believe he will give us something amazing. And I believe that most of us believe he will give us something amazing with our help. But nobody is entitled to his vision for even one minute.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/CloudImperium/status/1289267189183180801

Mr.PayDay posted:

Instead of asking why people still give Star Citizen money they should be asking why no other studio was able to release something better.
????

What can you „do“/play in the SC PTU that you can’t in other games, exactly?

1.) Walking in your „crafted“spaceship
2.)....

That was it?
All other space games have ships flying, space combat, exploring, planets etc?

colonelwest posted:

Lol Squadron 42 really must be really close to Beta.

trucutru posted:

I call that a quality post/username combo

Mr.PayDay posted:

Instead of asking why people still give Star Citizen money they should be asking why no other studio was able to release something better.
????

What can you „do“/play in the SC PTU that you can’t in other games, exactly?

1.) Walking in your „crafted“spaceship
2.)....

That was it?
All other space games have ships flying, space combat, exploring, planets etc?

The Rabbi T. White posted:

Ben Lesnick played through the whole thing in grey box about 5 years ago. It was incredible, he said.

ggangensis posted:

The only thing you can do to get recognized in that hosed up community is spending insane amounts of money.

Mr.PayDay posted:

It was not Lesnick who played the „first SQ42“ (lol).
He just referred to the INN Session July 22th 2016, and it’s another hilarious read of lies and dodging questions.

http://staging.imperialnews.network/2016/07/reverse-the-verse-episode-104-summary/

Q: Have you been able to play through a mission in SQ42 yet?

Disco has been able to, but has chosen not to.
Tyler has played through every mission because he comes from QA, and it was his job to to so.

yeah, sure

trucutru posted:

So what's the most popular topic today at the



Nothing to see here.

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I’m so happy I sold all of my ships and my account... paid for a trip to Greece.

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I've tried to sell mine but no bites, and I'm offering it for hundreds cheaper than its worth

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In Dec 2012, Bitcoin was $13. If I bought like 5 coins for $65 instead of a game package and avenger upgrade, they'd be worth $58,000 today...

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If i put my 1k into TSLA back in 2012, i would have 42k by now...

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It's almost Trumpian.
Chris Roberts declared he was gonna build a big, beautiful wall space simulation and that consoles were gonna pay for it.

trucutru posted:

Mr.PayDay posted:

It was not Lesnick who played the „first SQ42“ (lol).
He just referred to the INN Session July 22th 2016, and it’s another hilarious read of lies and dodging questions.

http://staging.imperialnews.network/2016/07/reverse-the-verse-episode-104-summary/

Q: Have you been able to play through a mission in SQ42 yet?

Disco has been able to, but has chosen not to.
Tyler has played through every mission because he comes from QA, and it was his job to to so.

yeah, sure

Mirificus posted:

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Yep. Most of us that have been here for a long time realize that CIG always gets quiet around this time of year. Literally every year. They get quiet, then we usually get some cool surprises and fun stuff from CitizenCon / Anniversary Stream and so on.