DigitalPenny posted:

Yea but when I try copy a big formula down 10k rows in excel it hangs on my PC, so if I could copy the formula off to 10k severs and spin them up and have them send the answer back and fill in my 10k rows it would surely give me the correct answer but 100 times faster, this is the magic of the cloud right ?

Pixelate posted:

No need. Your legs usually break before that can happen.

Tippis posted:

Sarcasm aside, sure, that's sort of the whole idea behind MapReduce and Google's secret goo. But of course, that all assumes that the task and data to be mapped together are wholly independent and trivially parallelisable.

It's just bad luck that real-time games, and in particular multiplayer games really… aren't.

Sarsapariller posted:

Why hasn't every other game thought of the "One server per player" solution?

Flannelette posted:

Blue On Blue posted:

The problem I’m seeing is that cig has said over and over they won’t be using a subscription model

So once they “release” HA hahahaha sorry. Once they release they will be entirely dependent on ship and packages purchases , which I guess they always have

But they will have sudden and expensive server costs , at least for the first month when everyone plays to try it out.

Actually maybe they have thought it out. If no one plays after a few months they won’t have any server costs ... mission accomplished !!!

TheAgent posted:

I mean they already have an optional sub service that brings in tons of cash and basically gives some hanger flair or whatever

it used to be for "producing video content" but uh, yeah. yeah.

Blue On Blue posted:

They may have said they will never

TheAgent posted:

like I still legit get a hearty fuckin laugh just thinking about that ramp and that poor QA girls warbling terror

Strangler 42 posted:

That clip is in my pantheon of legendary CIG moments. It just represented everything about Star Citizen in one short ten second clip. The wheels literally came off! And then cam rolling towards the screen!

Also, I would throw the entire 2016 holiday livestream in there.

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Anyone got a link of that clip? I wanna see it again now.

Strangler 42 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCtdyNFwQWo&t=6180s

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

When I read your post, all I could think of was:

Elite Dangerous
Kerbal Space Project
NMS (even over my gripes with it I can't deny it's a good enough game right now)

...and probably like ten other space games I haven't played would fit there.

Except for Star Citizen.

Star Citizen is anything but that.

Blue On Blue posted:

What Christmas was it , I want to say 2016 as well

When they were weeks not months away from releasing sq42. And then they put out that horrible Christmas card with all the actors t-posed. They were clearly thrown on and tried to hide the t-posing but it was so obvious they couldn’t even take 5 minutes to fix it

Popete posted:

I like the crowd cheering for the person walking up the jittering ramp, as if that was some big accomplishment after what they just witnessed.

Tippis posted:

Sarcasm aside, sure, that's sort of the whole idea behind MapReduce and Google's secret goo. But of course, that all assumes that the task and data to be mapped together are wholly independent and trivially parallelisable.

It's just bad luck that real-time games, and in particular multiplayer games really… aren't.

marumaru posted:

The version that Star Citizen wish to do, is Dynamic Server Meshing, which according to my friend, is beyond insane. It's actually never been done before, but has apparently, always been a theorised system. But no ones been enough of a 'madman' to do it. .... Let me break it down how he broke it down for me. ....

Pros: Only one calculation is needed speeding things up. This allows as many layers of servers needed. So if 50 people are in one spot, 50 servers can be 'spun up' so each person has their own server while occuping the same space, meaning ZERO latency and ZERO lag. Limit to FPS suddenly is only decided by how many servers you can 'spin up', and Amazon server farm is the largest server farm in the world... ergo, CIG can spin up as many as they need. Allowing them to run 5000+player battles by just spinning up 500 servers that now run like there's only 10 on each. Limit of the game becomes limited instead, less by server issues, and instead by the client. So how much can your GPU handle onscreen at once before your tower catches fire.

Cons: Zero. System is a theoretical perfect system. Only problem is that the concept of layering a server ontop of each other like this is a coding nightmare of beyond godly preportions which is the only reason no ones bothered to actually try it until now.

Every other game goes by the 'halfmeasure'. I beleive (though I might be wrong) that DU works on a system thats a gridded server system. Where one server can be broken down into many different grids of servers, which helps, but doesnt stop it from lagging when you have a lot of people in a singular tight space. I know eve using standard static, which is why they drop to 2fps during massive battles (they call this time dilation, its really just them controlling the lag).

But Chris Roberts doesnt do half measures... so of COURSE he'd go for the 'best' but 'hardest' way.

TheAgent posted:

I miss the old CIG

the new CIG is trying to be a real games company and its kinda funny but nothing will top 2016 thru 2018 for me

*wheels fall off the rover*

~oh nooooooooooooooooo~

BigglesSWE posted:

Whatever can be salvaged is really besides the point. The point being: they kickstarted the game eons ago and promised pretty much anything to anyone. The only thing that keeps this house of jpg.‘s from falling apart is the perpetual development cycle. If the reason you pledged 6 years ago still isn’t nowhere to be seen, don’t worry! The game is in development, they’ll get there!

I feel like taking over the development of SC at this point would be kind of like taking over the rule of
Nazi Germany in May 1945. The writing’s on the wall, pal.

Hizawk posted:

Freelancer was an absolutely fabulous game. I remember running my own dedicated server for that, and we had like a bunch of people log in and do transport and pirate hunting missions.

I remember reading that freelancer was a game made very quickly once Chris Roberts got the axe.

Maybe what Star Citizen needs is for Chris to get fired and for Microsoft to move in and gameify the mess the game is in.

Blue On Blue posted:

Shots fired



Double oof

BigglesSWE posted:

I feel like taking over the development of SC at this point would be kind of like taking over the rule of
Nazi Germany in May 1945. The writing’s on the wall, pal.

TheAgent posted:

found out today that cyberpunk did all their mocap at imaginarium too lol

BigglesSWE posted:

I feel like taking over the development of SC at this point would be kind of like taking over the rule of
Nazi Germany in May 1945. The writing’s on the wall, pal.