Neurotic Roleplay posted:

jesus christ how broke is your brain if you keep up with and talk about this dumb loving game. and no, you aren't doing it "ironically"

RBA Starblade posted:

Jesus Christ

colonelwest posted:

Citizens call this hacked together Cryengine Mod the best looking PC game ever.

Here's the highest fidelity pizza stand in all the 'verse.

Hav posted:

The number of 'Pong' replies tends to really heavily underline the age of the backers.

My personal vidyagayme journey started with this bad boy;



All variations on small blob interacts with larger blobs. It blew capacitors on a fairly regular basis, and was my first entrance into the world of solid state electronics, a field that would almost completely disappear.

Popete posted:

Why are they building a procedural caves system for a space simulator? How is that a priority right now?

Your dumb game can't even host more than 50 people yet.

AlbieQuirky posted:

What if the US economy crashes but Germany does fine? Will be a different game if so.

Tippis posted:

At least their media purchase strategy matches their content creation strategy…

Zaphod42 posted:

Yeah, its truly insane how much they continue to promise while considering the ramifications of absolutely none of it. The medical ship just makes no sense. The game where the medical ship makes sense doesn't fit the game where flying into battle and shooting people makes sense.

If they were willing to be like EVE and have NPC "troopers" it'd work, but that's not ~fidelity~ and they've already pre-sold people marine experiences and space photographer experiences and space taxi experiences and...

Its a blatant scam at this point, but since people have been into it for years and thousands of dollars, they won't see it. This is digital scientology.

Zaphod42 posted:

Does your medical ship stay there if you go and get in another one of your ships?

Does it stay there if you log out?

Your medical ship's gonna get blasted pretty quick. Not to mention how useful will they even be in the scale of SPACE ? Flying from Olisar to Space planet X may take longer than flying from the medical ship you parked outside that particular cave on planet X, but when the battle moves over to planet Z it'll take about as long to get from your medical ship to the battle as from Olisar.

And if it takes that long to get back to Planet X then ... yeah.

Like Rotten said, they're imagining this like its Planetside but its not that so the same mechanics don't make sense.

Spiderdrake posted:

It really is a pity they're not on a real engine, since they could be making GBS threads out hundreds of games worth of drop in assets and making mad bank. Chris would just reject most of it anyway.

Assuming games work like that, which they probably don't?

Zaphod42 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z9X-EQEQDQ

Its soooooo bad, what the gently caress Blizzard

Massive cringe

Foo Diddley posted:

p sure that it was some Reddit guy and not a goon, because

Dementropy posted:

September's Jump Point

Dementropy posted:

Agony Aunt posted:

LOL, so much future tense in those responses. Oh well, that's what you get with Tier 0.

I like the one about "defending a homestead"... as in, those homesteads that don't exist despite having sold players land claims and base building ships for lots of money.

But let me get this right, you defend a homestead by taking a weak combat ship and using a device that stops them running away? I see no flaws in that plan.

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

I've been out of the loop for months. What new has happened. I googled it and they apparently added spelunking. How's that going?

Zushio posted:

This whole talk of fidelity when all the spaceships have giant open windows in the cockpits and all over the ship pisses me off.

I assume they hand wave it away with shields or future construction material but in real life space ships would have either no windows at all tiny little viewports. If you can see through it that means all kinds of radiation and stellar rays and whatnot can also pass right through. If it's shields that stop it that's dumb cause shields fails. If it's magic future materials that's dumb because they don't even have anti-glare.

It's also a massive structural weakpoint in literally the most important part of the ship (where the pilot is sitting so nothing breaks).

In short, buy an Idris.

chaosapiant posted:

Is that really true though? I heard they have excellent under water simulation and physics.

Agony Aunt posted:

Why do they have such a stout man doing the mocap if he's meant to be a marine? Don't the position of those markers matter? SC is a game where all the characters are perfect specimins of humanity, so i would have thought for mocap purposes they would require the right body shape.... and, wouldn't they also need to do it all again for the female body as well, beceause, you know, hips and stuff are a tad different. Wasn't there an issue early on with the female model where they walked like men?

And why the hell do they insist on mocapping anyway? Its really restricts what anims you can have. You need to mocap every anim you want then.

Agony Aunt posted:

Its one of those games I've always been tempted to get into but then listened to the stories about it and thought to myself "Am i really ready to give myself a rage induced heart attack?"

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Pretty sure you build one. Most MMOs do.

Zaphod42 posted:

Nah, "build one" doesn't mean it isn't possible. CIG is massively incompetent. "BDSSE" is bullshit but there are tons of engines that can do most of the things SC needs to. They're just incompetent as hell.

But "cutting edge game" is never going to be possible in "off the shelf engine". Those two things just don't jive. Doing one means not doing the other, inherently.

Quavers posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8hnXkzzpc4&t=110s

Dooguk posted:

Star Citizen is a round peg and a square hole. Never been done before.

Zaphod42 posted:

The thing that really occurs to me about stimpire.txt is just how overwhelmingly juvenile it is. Whoever wrote that really needs a therapist.

Like its one thing to write a really dark fiction with really seedy elements, but just "everybody in this universe gets tortured forever" doesn't make any sense. If anybody who goes to a restaurant gets mulched into food who gets to eat the food? Who are the employees? What do people sustain on in order to build out the stimpire? I've already put more thought into it than the author.

Sarsapariller posted:

Are you goons trying to do critical literary analysis of the god-drat STIMPIRE?

Stop that.

Pixelate posted:

Popete posted:

Hell yeah, found a video of someone trying to play chess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQhkYpFeH_8

- You can hardly differentiate white/black pieces it's more black/grey.
- The pieces all look basically the same, you can't tell which is the rook/knight/bishop/king/queen all look almost identical but are just slightly taller in that order.
- You have to manually pick up each piece and place it on the board, it's very difficult to see which piece you are selecting and where you're placing it.
- If you take a piece outside the ship and set it down it will despawn and appear back on the board. But if you take a piece and throw it from within the ship to outside the ship it will despawn but not appear back on the board.
- The only way to reset the chess board (without manually placing each piece) is to store and retrieve your ship. Sleeping/logging off also resets the board.

Simone Magus posted:

At what point do people like the Better Business Bureau (or whoever) get involved? It really feels like it ought to be actionable at some point to keep selling things that don't exist

El Spamo posted:

Jump routes: large, medium, small


what does that even meeeeaaaaaaannnn

Zaphod42 posted:

That makes sense, but the part that doesn't is there also being a Sol system.

I guess after you rename Sol to Terra you're like "Well the name Sol is up for grabs, so lets rename Proxima Centauri to Sol for shits and giggles. It was a good name for a star, much better than Terra"

Although a star named "Earth" is pretty lol.

Scruffpuff posted:

This poo poo goes literally all the way back. When Pac-Man came out it was noted as being a hugely popular video game that attracted as many women, if not slightly more, than men (despite the Pac-Man title) and opened people's eyes to an ignored demographic.

There were lots of theories about why, leading ones were a featureless protagonist and a non-shooting-everything premise, I'm not sure how accurate that is but the lesson the powers that be took from this was to release Ms. Pac-Man and make sure to give her lipstick and a bow. So despite being the superior title, it had a weird patronizing vibe to it.

I'll never stop being surprised at people who try to market to people this way. Look, it's pink, it's for girls! Not to be outdone, men's bath care products can be mistaken for automotive products with how they're packaged now.

Maybe we should just reopen gladiatorial arenas and let these guys work through their problems that way. We'll make trillions of dollars, and reduce their numbers significantly.

nurmie posted:

yeah honestly it's just embarrassing

most of these Manly Products for Manly Men are not even practical or whatever - it's just typical consumer stuff with some extra military-looking tAcTiCal bits haphazardly attached. like if you want poo poo that looks similar to this style and that's actually useful and practical and durable, why not go to a military surplus store or a specialty workwear/outdoors/hardware places

Sarsapariller posted:

What blows me away is that there's no acknowledgement from any quarter that this is unsustainable. That they cannot possibly build every city in the game universe they promised to this level of detail, that they haven't sped up even slightly, that it's year nine and they're still on the first star system. The elephant is right there in the room with every one of these long, smug victory laps, and everyone just... ignores it. CIG has either internally committed to having at most a couple star systems ever, or they have no plan whatsoever, and backers just don't care because they've been taught not to look up from the newest thing. And none of the cities CIG has produced offer substantially more gameplay than one of the stations in Elite Dangerous! All this effort for what is basically a landing platform that you'll take a bus through, to get to the cargo trading terminal, because the game doesn't take place in cities.

Mendrian posted:

I think what a lot of these game dads fall for is the idea of infinite progress at a steady rate.

Like we went from Link to Ocarina of Time in ten years; and for a lot of people, it felt like less time than that even, given that a lot of people in the states weren't consuming home gaming until well into the 90s. Conversely it's been 10 years since the release of Skyrim and it doesn't feel like Fallout 4 is really any more advanced. We've gone from completely redefining the technological zeitgeist every 5 years to slow incremental changes to lighting engines and anti-aliasing. To the casual observer, progress has ceased.

This is of course wrong; there have been profound leaps in technology even if the average person doesn't appreciate the complexity involved. Entire genres and new ideas have risen. Games with less technological focus have achieved focus of design and implementation far greater than anything produced in the 90s (looking at you Hades).

But if you think that we're supposed to take a leap forward every decade these people feel overdue, like nobody is trying to push the envelope. I feel like they really have no appreciation for what they're expecting, and they think time will be enough to make their dreams possible.