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Hellblazer187 posted:There's a video effort post on YouTube about Lesnar's njpw run, and the first half of the video is about Inoki's weird insistence on mixing mma with pro wrestling. For instance, insisting on having Hashimoto do a shoot fight but not telling him about it. Imagine Vince just feeding Roman to a legit MMA guy without even telling him it's a shoot. Man if the main event of Wrestlemania 31 was Brock legit shooting on Roman with Roman completely in the dark that would've been quite the spectacle.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Who are some wrestlers who were either way ahead or way behind of their times? Brian Pillman comes to mind, not that he wasn't already perfect for the 90s, but he'd be the kind of character you build a company around today.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:02
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Sanji wins a secondary or tertiary singles title from one enemy faction only to drop it to the next one they fight after 2 weeks with 0 defenses, ad nauseum. The only reigns with significance he ever has are tag titles with Zoro or Usopp.
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Sep 12, 2019 17:14
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Procrastinator posted:sanji is yoshi hashi Yoshi-Hashi will never get a story arc focused around him.
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Sep 12, 2019 17:20
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Here's a REAL Wrestling Question for all you chads and staceys out there. Which one of Chuck Taylor's terrible wrestler names would you use in your NXT debut? Scoot Tatum "This Is:" Howie DeWitt "Raw Dog" Rick Beanbag Pudd Nelson Cuba Gooding III Boomer Scarborough "No Gimmicks Needed" Steve the Samurai The Cucumber Buster Norbert "Powercat" Jeff Winslow "The Human Thermometer" Pat Joplin Frank "Grab-rear end" Hernandez "New in town" Luke Wilcox Danny "Double Dip" Dawkins Adrian "Dill" Picklesby "The Midnight Oil" Barney Stamp Oh no, I can't say that one out loud Bugg Nevans Bareback Benny Figg "Space Homie" Mike Smith "Pro Bowler" Benji "Ball Return" Roberts "Crooked Dick" Johnny Hogg Dick "The Hammer" Dick "All Sack" Drew Gulak "Handjob" Dave Handerson "Six Dicks Deep" David O'Neil "Solar System Specialist" Steve Baker "Long Haul" Lenny Broadway Jeff "The Tit" Baker Lemuel "Little Baby Dong" Denver Mick "The Kraken" McCracken "Hard Wood" Rich Mahogany "The Incubator" Steve McGillicutty
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Sep 14, 2019 20:13
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AlmightyPants posted:Dear god, these are all great! What's the source for them? I'm actually crying from laughing so hard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifolC4Nt140 Dustin is a gift that the wrestling industry doesn't deserve.
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Sep 15, 2019 05:51
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Drew McIntyre posted:who has the best rear end in wrestling? would you guys be interested in having a Best Wrestling rear end voting tournament? please nominate people for the upcoming tournament. Do valets count? Because at the risk of being cancelled from the New Japan thread, I'd have to go with a non-joke answer and say Pieter.
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Sep 19, 2019 01:11
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A lot of Tanahashi's "I don't respect your style of wrestling" feuds seem to be based at least partially in reality, like the one with Shibata, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some minor amount of "heat," if you could even call it that, between Tana and Kenny but I'm sure it's nothing that serious. Most of the issue seems to be with New Japan management assuming the Elite would stay out of loyalty and not offering a satisfactory deal to make good on it, particularly for the Bucks, who they don't seem to have actually valued that much as a draw.
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Sep 20, 2019 17:16
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When Pillman's worked shoot turned shoot shoot firing angle was getting super hot Hogan wanted him to be more involved in the Dungeon of Doom/Four Horsemen vs Mega Powers feud specifically so he (Hogan) could pin him (Pillman).
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Sep 23, 2019 01:31
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Low Desert Punk posted:has there ever been a time period where WWE hasn't treated their fanbase and the general public like barely-functioning idiots The Attitude Era, of course. Vince said so himself!
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Sep 24, 2019 20:43
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Edge & Christian posted:but I was not expecting Kane to be the runaway US 'winner'. Hasn't he only been injured like once or twice in his career? He was pretty much constantly on TV for 20 years
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Oct 4, 2019 23:43
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So what WWE does with the 24/7 belt, based on the recaps I read every week, seems to be exclusively "current champion is chased through the arena by a mob of people, or is hiding in a room/box/other enclosed space." I don't remember the Hardcore title circa 2000 being handled this way? I know Crash's whole gimmick was pretty much getting chased around and running away but I remember a lot more..... I dunno, stretches of calmness around the Hardcore title. Like the champion would actually walk around backstage before they got ambushed by like one, maybe two or three people, rather than constantly being followed by the entire jobber locker room. They'd actually come out for matches sometimes, and then a couple of guys would join in and try to steal the belt in the middle of it, stuff like that. Am I remembering the Hardcore title right, was the belt that gave us the Headbangers chasing Crash Holly through Funtime USA and the Mean Street Posse dressed as a bunch of clowns ambushing him in the parking lot of a circus somehow more subtle than the 24/7 title?
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Oct 9, 2019 10:09
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Shine posted:I think Brock's 2014 squash of Cena got four stars. Cena had two brief hope spots, but otherwise got destroyed for like 15 minutes. man, remember how a chunk of the crowd started chanting "boring" during this? wonder if they felt stupid after it was all said and done
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Oct 11, 2019 05:47
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Oct 11, 2019 09:42
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I'm watching Dynamite atm and JR and Schiavone are talking about Jericho's "longevity" in the business, which made me curious about something, so I looked it up: Ric Flair debuted in 1972, and his last World Championship win was in 2000, 28 years later. Jericho's debut was in 1990, and he's currently a World Champion in 2019, 29 years later. They weren't kidding. Has anybody in American wrestling topped that? I'm sure there's some guys in Mexico who went 30+ between debut and final top title win but they also seem to stay active and prominent way longer than in the US, or that's the impression I've gotten anyway.
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Oct 11, 2019 10:59
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El Gallinero Gros posted:One of the best parts of indy shows is kids interacting with heels will chuck taylor ever get the chance to scream at children in aew, i hope so
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Oct 11, 2019 23:16
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Professor Skittles posted:Does anyone have a powerbomb as a finisher in wwe currently?? If not why is it so rarely used ?? I always thought it was one of the cooler moves but rarely if ever see it anymore. Kevin Owens was using a pop-up powerbomb as his finisher until this year when he came back from injury and started using the Stunner as a finisher for some reason.
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Oct 12, 2019 03:02
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Has there been a worse top babyface in WWE than Seth fr*cking Rollins? Vince McMahon, speaking through the body and with the voice of Roman Reigns, was extremely bad. I think the current state of the product is maybe giving people rose tinted glasses about Roman on top but I bet there wouldn't be much difference in public opinion if you transplanted 2015-16 Roman with 2019 Seth and vice versa.
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Oct 16, 2019 04:23
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I think you could easily rehab Braun at this point. They won't, obviously, but he hasn't quite hit Big Show or Kane levels of damaged yet.
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Oct 16, 2019 22:24
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Oct 18, 2019 02:07
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Admiral Joeslop posted:This, and that match he had with Kane where they both do mat wrestling and "classic" wrestling moves that I can never seem to find when I need it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RYvXFiDGQ0 JR: "I don't expect this to be a catch-as-catch-can classic, quite frankly"
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Oct 18, 2019 02:46
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Anyone have the gif of Big Show accidentally putting his foot through a table in a table match? He had an amazing ...oh poo poo... expression. 
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Oct 18, 2019 09:33
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Actually, I've just remembered my all time single favourite Jericho moment. Jericho's run as Undisputed champion was really bad but the lone bright spot was the leadup to his title defense vs Rock at Royal Rumble '02. Jericho losing his loving mind screaming his lungs out and demanding he not be dismissed, disrespected, or treated as a joke, only for the Rock to calmly stroll up the ramp, walk a little circle around Jericho, and confirm that he is, in fact, taking Jericho very seriously, and none of his usual Rock-isms about whooping candy asses and whatnot are in any way meant to be funny. The few times Rock got quiet and serious were really effective. Jericho's run as a tantrum-throwing inept fluke champion less effective, but that particular promo was really good. TriffTshngo fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Oct 18, 2019 21:03
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Pollyanna posted:I’ll take a look at these - thanks. Wrestling rings are basically just big frames that they place wooden planks on and then layer some (thin) padding and a mat over it. The further out toward the edges you go the less give/bounce the ring has, and the more it hurts. I think they slightly exaggerate it on commentary for the sake of drama. As far as the move itself, there's been an increased awareness/concern for wrestlers' head and neck health in the last couple years due to guys like Daniel Bryan and Katsuyori Shibata being forcibly retired due them going a bit too hard on their own bodies and ending up with serious neck and concussion issues. The Dragon Suplex, obviously, lands you pretty much square on the back of your neck and head, so it's more likely to draw a more visceral reaction from wrestling fans, though as far as I know Kenny's never hurt anybody with it.
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Oct 19, 2019 02:04
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It's been interesting to see all the people getting into wrestling as adults because of the increased ease of access and prominence of all these different promotions around the world. I started watching when I was 9 so I have zero frame of reference for what it's like to do that. It must be such a loving weird thing to try out for the first time in your 20s or 30s.
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Oct 19, 2019 03:09
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Jonny Nox posted:question: does NJPW do Face/heel alignments? if so, what is Tomohiro Ishii (aside from awesome)? It's a gradient, where the worst sin of all is running away from a fight. It's why Suzuki-Gun vs Bullet Club matchups are so fun, because Suzuki-Gun are usually the heels, since they're mean, cheating assholes who beat up Young Lions and bully referees and ring announcers. However, they're also a pack of sadists always down for a fight, so when they get matched up with the cowardly Bullet Club, they're the de facto faces, and there's a FUCKLOAD of cheating on both sides. Ishii's faction, Chaos, are former heels who have a slight edge because they're all varying degrees of cocky (most of all Okada, the leader) but are generally the big babyface faction. They'll get cheered most of the time but aren't too bothered by a negative reaction here and there. Los Ingobernables de Japon are, on paper, neutral/tweeners who go back and forth depending who they face but are so popular they just ended up being mega faces who the crowd sometimes boo for fun when they bend the rules.
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Oct 21, 2019 05:30
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harperdc posted:Also I usually put the NJPW hierarchy from face to heel as follows: Ever since Switchblade took over I'd swap Bullet Club and Suzuki-gun, personally. SZKG are cheating bullies but at least they don't run away. That's the one thing New Japan crowds hate more than any other.
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Oct 21, 2019 06:12
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"Sitting in catering" is about as literal a phrase as you'll ever come across in wrestling, but it's only really been applicable to two eras: current WWE buying up every independent talent they can trick into signing their prime years away just so someone else can't have them, and late-era WCW (1999-2001) keeping a bunch of old timers' friends and family (like Hulk Hogan's nephew Horace, or Randy Savage's brother Lanny Poffo) on the payroll to keep them happy because WCW didn't know how to do anything other than spend money.
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Oct 21, 2019 13:24
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Pollyanna posted:That is depressing. The last few years of main roster WWE, combined with the Saudi bullshit and all the backstage trashfires that get reported on seemingly every day, have really sapped the trust and good will of pretty much everyone who posts here. The few remaining people who can still find stuff to enjoy just don't post in WWE threads anymore because it either gets lost in a sea of shitposting and negativity or ruthlessly picked apart and argued with, which nobody really felt good about. There's a wrestling renaissance happening right now and it has next to nothing to do with WWE, and is in fact happening DESPITE their best efforts. Aside from Britwres, though. They all pretty much bent over backwards to destroy their own scene to be able to call Triple H their dad on twitter and tell fans they're idiots and that the scene is alive and well as the coffin is being lowered into the ground.
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Oct 21, 2019 14:20
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Seams posted:Wrestlers should scream the name of their finishing move as loud as possible when they do it 
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Oct 22, 2019 07:35
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Oct 22, 2019 10:57
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Undertaker showed up for the "first time" at Survivor Series 1990 but he'd already been on a TV taping that was going to air afterward, so Gorilla accidentally called the Tombstone when he and Piper were supposed to have no idea who this guy was, since he'd already seen it before. Piper tried to cover for him and Gorilla pretty much immediately realized he hosed up, but they just sort of brush it aside afterward.
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Oct 22, 2019 23:17
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Jerusalem posted:I loved The Two Man Power Trip but on the other hand I also loving loved Paranoid Heel Austin losing his loving mind while trying to lead The Alliance. I know blah blah it was bad for business blah blah I don't care it was some of my most enjoyable memories of WWF/E in the early 2000s. I loving love Steve Austin. 
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Oct 24, 2019 13:36
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fatherofmustard posted:I'm baking the lemon inside you! Too many limes, too many limes
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Oct 24, 2019 15:46
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What was up with Piper/Hogan at Starrcade being non-title? Was that known before the match? Did they pull a Halloween Havoc '95 and retroactively screw Piper in order to have a happy ending but not give him the belt? Did they pull a Summerslam '93 and expect you to be a loving moron and/or child who didn't exert any kind of brain activity when watching their show?
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Weird, vague question. I have been kind of interested in wrestling for a while, but I don't know what's the most accessible way to watch some. WWE doesn't look too appealing, but NJPW seems like there's a lot of hoops to jump through. If I don't have cable, what a good way to watch some? AEW has something called AEW Dark I think on their YouTube channel. Is that worth trying? With New Japan the only real "hoops" are that their streaming service's website design is... very bad. They've been steadily making steps toward making it easier and easier for western fans to get into the product though, most notably with the mere existence of said streaming service and live english commentary on all of the big shows and most of the small ones. AEW Dark is basically just AEW taking something that's existed in wrestling for ages, "dark matches" (untelevised stuff put on before or after the TV show for the live crowd) and putting them on youtube every week. I'm not watching every episode but there was an extremely good match from episode 2 or 3 with one of AEW's main players and a beloved indie darling so yeah it seems like it's going to be worth keeping up with for the forseeable future. The rules thread and OP of this one have info on all the different services and ways to watch different companies.
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Oct 28, 2019 20:13
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MassRafTer posted:Prick Okada Wait, as opposed to what? Balloon Okada??
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Nov 5, 2019 19:51
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Pope Corky the IX posted:So I remember a time when he was Tyler Black all the way through I guess his first injury where everyone thought Seth Rollins was the best. A lot of people were even thrilled that he was the one to turn on the Shield. So what happened? I know he injured a bunch of people, including retiring Sting. And apparently he was dating a neo-Nazi? I'm just curious as to how everyone is on the "gently caress Rollins" train now, not that I disagree. I posted this in one of the GDTs from last month so here you go: me, like 3 weeks ago posted:Over the course of 2019 Seth Rollins has:
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Me being the big New Japan mark I am these days, even though they serve more or less the same function I've developed a much greater appreciation for forearms over punches. Punches just feel like meaningless filler to me, even if they're delivered by someone who makes them look good.
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