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Maigius posted:What happened at the '98 Survivor series? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klUv8q21kFY This is a pretty good summary.
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Tato posted:Does anyone know exactly what The Heartthrobs did on WWE Byte This that got them immediately shitcanned and pretty much cancelled the show? I googled out of curiosity because I remember that happening but totally forgot why and all the other insanity that happened with the show... quote:On the July 13, 2005 episode, Lita was an in-studio guest and Matt Hardy called in. This was an interesting show to say the least, as it was at the peak of their on-screen drama. Lita eventually got fed up and walked off the show. Despite Hardy constantly advertising his appearance in Ring Of Honor later that week, (later edited from the archived broadcast) some who watched the webcast that night believe the whole situation was a work.
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Jul 30, 2020 13:53
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He never told his brother Geno about the guy he murdered 'cause his brother Geno would have killed the guy he had already murdered and he didn't want his brother going to jail.
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Insert a Name Here posted:So, Kayfabe is sort of like strong bad from homestar runner saying "fqwdads" or Bart Simpsons saying "qwijibo" It's gibberish that means "dont drop your act, in the act." Interesting post. Can't remember which one but there's a wrestling bio which explains it as the word "fake" run through one of the old carny word generators. Modern wrestlers would just say "fizzake" for example, so it's not exactly gibberish.
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Nov 7, 2020 11:36
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What's the background to Cody's "gently caress on you" soundbite?
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Nov 26, 2020 15:33
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It's the opposite of a sunnersault, duh.
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Mar 4, 2021 00:55
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Who started using the Sharpshooter / Scorpion Deathlock first out of Sting and Hart, and was the second guy ripping on the first or was it just coincidence?
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Mar 12, 2021 08:32
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britishbornandbread posted:Has there been a match where the two competitors facing one another have come out separately but to the same theme music? Shane v Vince at WM17? Fenix vs Pentagon, mexi-kings met in the ring.
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Mar 25, 2021 01:50
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Most opinions I heard back when the original brand split happened were derisively assuming they were trying to create a false division so they could redo both the feel of the Monday Night Wars and an eventual Invasion angle, because they'd realised how badly they'd hosed up and wouldn't do it again. lol
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May 12, 2021 00:39
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Didn't Bullet Bob Armstrong and Road Dogg win the tag titles in TNA/Impact at some point?
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May 17, 2021 13:16
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Kennel posted:Would Batista count? IIRC He was basically a standard big muscle bodyguard without personality until he turned against HHH. A lot of that was because they were pushing for the very green and very unlikeable Randy Orton to be the foil to Triple H out of the Evolution split and Batista was just in the background being effortlessly cool while Orton was being a tryhard dork week after week. The fans latched on to him in desperation to avoid face Orton vs HHH at Wrestlemania and we wound up with the Batista instant mega-push because they actually listened to the fans and didn't try to punish him for getting over. What a thought.
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Jun 24, 2021 12:45
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Admiral Joeslop posted:When someone asks about solid, safe, and reliable hands in the ring, a few names come to mind; Chris Jericho, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, etc. Chris Benoit got the Crippler nickname because he accidentally broke Sabu's neck in a match.
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Jul 9, 2021 13:30
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Edge & Christian posted:Then after a month of feuding for the soul of Gangrel, Gangrel is booked in a Deadly Games qualifying match against Gangrel. Gangrel tries to interfere on behalf of Gangrel, Gangrel kicks both their asses and beats Gangrel, but then Gangrel comes in and attacks Gangrel to reunite with his brother. Gangrel fights all three of them off and they run away. And then they were just blood loving fanged gothic lifestyle aficionados for awhile. Gangrel.
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Jul 22, 2021 14:05
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It seems like anyone in AEW can have the opportunity for a Dynamite main event, a memorable feud or signature match, something for the highlights reels, and even lower card guys are treated respectfully and generally get to have strong win-loss records thanks to Dark/Elevation, so unless you're fixated on title belts I don't know how much this idea of getting a spot at the "top of the card" really holds. Wrestlers like Sonny Kiss and Joey Janela might be getting less screentime on Dynamite than they otherwise would with all these new names coming in but at the same time they're still doing indy shows where their AEW exposure is growing their fanbase. And the fact that a guy who main evented Wrestlemania a few months ago is apparently on his way is pretty drat huge. The message that sends is not "Danielson is coming to take my spot", it's "being at the top of the card in the WWE is worthless".
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Jul 24, 2021 13:45
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I don't think anyone looks back at it as "great", but the Fingerpoke of Doom was turned into a wrestlecrap moment once WCW started its decline as if it was the first snowball in an avalanche, but ratings analysis showed that it didn't have any real immediate effect. It was just a convenient milestone that the IWC latched onto.
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Aug 19, 2021 12:46
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edogawa rando posted:Yeah, his big promo when he returned as Unkillable Matt Hardy needs to be seen to be believed. "Ah hope yew and yore chawldren dah in a car accident y'all. Bawss Hawgg y'all." "Adam, yew ruined mah chances of evuh having a famuhly!" - actual quote from man who was apparently castrated by Edge??? Also, referring to Adam "The Feces" Copeland like he had delivered the sickest burn imaginable. I'm still in shock to this day that Matt turned things around and became the character(s) he has since those dark times. Kudos to you Matt Hardy, kudos.
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Sep 11, 2021 10:53
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What is the most extreme example of a wrestler improving solely as an in-ring performer? I'm not talking about how Britt Baker reinvented herself as a heel and left her face persona in the dust, but someone who was a mediocre wrestler who became a five star technical wizard or otherwise amazing. It seems like a lot of the top tier talent have been like that from very early on in their careers, and most of the ways wrestlers improve over time is with their character work or little nuances in the ring. What got me thinking was Serena Deeb. I don't know too much about her overall career but I remember in WWE she didn't stand out at all but in AEW she's this absolute machine. Did she get crazy good in between or was she always like that and it was just WWE stifling her back in the day?
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Oct 29, 2021 13:10
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Kevino07 posted:I feel like that almost every wrestler who starts with a prominent national company young or early will show dramatic improvement if they don’t wash out simply through working with talented and experienced wrestlers. The Rock improved rapidly after a year for example and John Cena was awful in ring in his first year. I don't mean just "got better through experience". I mean, "was capable of putting on five star matches that didn't rely on smoke and mirrors or over the top character work", you know what I mean?
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Oct 29, 2021 13:39
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MassRafTer posted:Nigel McGuinness was featured on 20/20 in his first match and as you might expect completely sucked. But he was bad for several years, upgraded to boring, and then in 2006 went from boring to maybe the best wrestler on the planet in a space of a few months. Thank you, that's exactly what I was after. I only ever saw him from 2006 onwards and had no idea about his back story.
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Oct 29, 2021 14:37
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Does a draw count as a successful title defence? He's still got the title, and he didn't lose the match. I need to know for statistical purposes.
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Dec 17, 2021 11:52
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Thank you!
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Dec 17, 2021 12:11
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Sabu and RVD vs Jinsei Shinzaki and Hayabusa from Heatwave '98 is one of my all-time favourites but I don't know how well it would hold up to someone watching it for the first time now.
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Dec 21, 2021 02:08
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I don't think any wrestler has integrated botching into his actual character as successfully as Sabu did.
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Dec 21, 2021 06:25
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"The Widowmaker" Barry Windham. Cool look, cool name, cool finishing move. My wrestling buddy and I only ever saw one (?) match of his in the few months he was around but that didn't stop us fantasy-booking him into everything wrestling-related we did for years afterwards. It wasn't until he came back as the Stalker that the illusion was finally shattered.
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Dec 28, 2021 00:45
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Lamuella posted:What examples are there in WWE of poorly received booking that "played out" into something actually good? Some of their midcard stuff in the mid 2000's turned out OK after starting badly - Mr Kennedy (says his name twice, WTF?) and Carlito Caribbean Cool (spits an apple, WTF?) but they stuck with the characters and people really got into them. You know, before the poo poo hit the fan with both due to their respective issues. Finlay is another one who debuted to groans and turned out to be a really entertaining crazy old man with a feral leprechaun. Of course this was all in the midst of the Tatanka and Road Warrior Animal returns, Shelton's mama, Chris Masters and his pointless 10 minute heat segments, etc. etc. so it's not like you can point to the few rare examples of things working and say they knew what they were doing.
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How do interim title reigns work in UFC? If AEW follows the same logic is Sammy Guevara a two time TNT champion now? If he beats Cody in the unification match is he a three time champ or still two? Or does the interim title exist in its own universe, separate to the actual TNT lineage?
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Thauros posted:not a mononym but i was talking about this with a friend and we were having trouble finding an example predating TAKA Michinoku for a guy using all caps romaji for part of his ring name. in japanese the michinoku part is written in hiragana if anyone didn't know and was curious (TAKAみちのく). I think I remember JADO and GEDO being billed like that in the mid 90s, and when I was in Japan someone told me the all caps romaji was to denote heels originally but by the early 00's it was just done to look cool.
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When I first started watching TNA in that weird pre-Spike period there were consecutive episodes of Impact with Jarrett doing lengthy heel promos in the ring, the first week he said he was going to "break [someone]'s freaking neck" (which was Kurt Angle's catchphrase at the time) and the next week he said he was a "wrestling god" (which was JBL's catchphrase at the time). Like he was some bottom-tier indy guy trying to get heat by directly aping something he'd seen on the real wrestling shows, which is exactly the perception I have of Jeff Jarrett as a wrestler.
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Defenestrategy posted:Has there been a time where thrown together single stars lose to an established tag team cleanly without shenanigans? For example HBK/Austin, Omega/Hangman, Rock/Mankind. I cant think of a time off hand, but it seems like everytime it doesnt happens it kinda buries the rest of the tag division as not only are these people not good enough to see success by themselves, their supposed expertise and familiarity with the rules doesnt matter as well. Didn't the Young Bucks beat a few thrown together singles guys reasonably cleanly during their title run? MJF & Jericho, Moxley & Kingston, PAC & Penta? I don't remember how "clean" they were but the story of the matches was usually that despite how good the singles guys were they just couldn't hang with an established tag team on the level of the Bucks.
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Apr 12, 2022 00:22
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Has there been a working relationship between a major Japanese promotion and WWE, WCW, TNA or ROH where the American one hasn't screwed them over, or tried to, at some point?
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Apr 22, 2022 07:05
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Manwithastick posted:In your opinion, what is keeping AEW from doing better in the ratings? Many of the storylines feel like they are missing some connective tissue that would help them feel like you have to watch on a weekly basis to see what's going to happen next. You look at episodes of Raw or Nitro from the Monday Night Wars and the best ones had this chaotic energy where anything could and often did happen. Whereas in AEW, most of the matches will have a foregone conclusion and most of the stuff in between matches is Tony Schiavone interviewing someone who gets interrupted, or someone is jumped backstage, or people stand in a ring and fire verbal insults at each other. (Often you can go a week or more without any progression on an angle at all until suddenly a match pops up seemingly out of nowhere). There is nothing inherently wrong with any of that, but it can give the shows a feeling of sameness - like it's great TV, but it's not must watch TV, you know what I mean? I'd like to see it have more of an episodic feel, like the Wardlow-MJF storyline, that has been fantastic so far and is the exception that proves the rule in my opinion.
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May 15, 2022 14:31
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flatluigi posted:honestly i just fundamentally disagree that being able to predict how a match is going to end or even see where storylines are going in general is a bad thing? I mean, I literally said it's not inherently a bad thing. I've been watching wrestling since the 80s and AEW is by far and away the best wrestling promotion I've ever seen. But is it perfect? No. Could it be better? Yes. I've said it before, I think Tony Khan is an absolute wrestling genius for the way he can see big picture storylines and work towards them over a significant length of time. But he needs someone to help him flesh that stuff out along the way, or stop that sense of recycled ideas and give a bit more life to the roster. Britt Baker is a good example, she got herself over massively and was destined to win the women's title, but as soon as she did her booking just went into this weird modern-day Honky Tonk Man dead zone which took away the part of her character that people had really latched on to. All I was really trying to say was that AEW's booking style doesn't create a sense that you've got to watch every episode. Death Triangle are my favourite faction, but they're just biding time until their PPV blow-off match with House of Black right now. I'm not looking forward to this coming Dynamite to find out what happens next in their feud because the odds are it'll be House of Black cutting a promo backstage that gets interrupted with a brawl. The week after that HoB will get the upper hand with mind games (i.e. the lights will go out then they will beat them up) following a Death Triangle victory over, say, Bear Country and Serpentico. Then we'll get to the PPV blow-off and it will be an insane match with a bunch of MOTY nominations that I will love. But the story beats along the way are going to tread the same ground as a good chunk of AEW's storylines. Again in and of itself this isn't a bad thing. The moments will be enjoyable and it won't be bad television like when you try to watch WWE and your eyeballs bleed out of your skull from the eldritch horror of their booking, but it's not must-watch TV. Am I making sense?
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Austin’s theme was a hard rock version of Razor Ramon’s theme, which itself was just a rip off of the Eagles “Those Shoes”. I always thought Austin's theme was influenced by Korn's Blind but that trajectory is spot on.
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