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CopywrightMMXI posted:2. Who is the most famous WWE wrestler without a Wrestlemania appearance? It’s gotta be Kamala right? This is a super fun question to try and nail down. It has to be someone from the 70s/80s who never quite made that leap into the Mania era. Maybe Tony Atlas?
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Battle Royal with NFL players at 2. drat! I did a quick Google for him + WrestleMania and didn't see anything at first glance. Edit: Coming back to this - Ken Patera, Steve Williams, Brian Pillman, Bobo Brazil? Maybe Bruno Sammartino if you don't count him managing his son at WM 1. Ganso Bomb fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Sep 8, 2019 05:22
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Sharparoni posted:What is the most powerful move in wrestling logic? Does anything beat the Canadian destroyer off the ladder through a table from last weekend? Maybe a Burning Hammer would still beat that The heart punch has killed people
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Sep 9, 2019 18:42
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Incessant Excess posted:Why does New Japan have the hard cam set up to face the entrance ramp where the fewest fans are visible? It seems like you'd ideally want an animated crowd as the background for the ring yet in a lot of their arenas they do it this way. Japanese crowds aren't necessarily the most animated, so I don't know that it matters. You aren't supposed to stand or hold things above your head as to not block anyone else's view and ruin their experience. If your thing is seeing a crowd of people sitting and clapping rhythmically while others hold tiny towels and teddy bears, I can see your point though.
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Sep 10, 2019 18:41
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CopywrightMMXI posted:To piggyback off of this, who are the biggest NXT success stories? It seems that most of the bigger names were already big before and didn't need to be in developmental. Roman and Charlotte? Braun would have been if they didn't constantly cut his legs out from under him.
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Sep 14, 2019 16:21
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fatherofmustard posted:Roman was barely in NXT. He was more of an FCW guy. Eh. I'd still count it. It's kind of semantics at that point. He was still a developmental guy and probably their best/latest claim to a home grown success. STONE COLD 64 posted:Braun completely bypassed the NXT system. Did he? I thought he at least worked house shows but was just never on TV. How quickly did he go from being hired to being on Raw?
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Sep 14, 2019 17:02
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Hedgehog Pie posted:IT'S THE ULTIMATE SWERVE I must have been a broken child because I loved Jeff Jarrett. He was such a piece of poo poo with his glowing entrance gear.
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Sep 21, 2019 04:46
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Hedgehog Pie posted:It was a long time coming for me, but I can just about understand why some people are big fans of his now. I do appreciate an unapologetic heel. There are no excuses for his WCW run and he was awful there and in TNA 90% of the time, but something about the cocky 90s Double J is extremely my poo poo.
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Sep 21, 2019 14:29
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rujasu posted:It's tough to say what would have happened if WCW had kept Austin around. I don't think he would have remained "Stunning" into the nWo era, everyone was changing gimmicks around that time, and it's tough to be "Stunning" when you're going bald. Didn't he job out to loving Duggan almost immediately when that whole crew came around? I don't envision a scenario where he would ever have stuck around WCW, but if he did then his ceiling would have probably been similar to Malenko or Eddie. I don't think Hogan or probably Bischoff would have let him get much higher than that, and I don't know that anyone else who was on top around that time would have been pushing for him as a top guy at all.
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Sep 23, 2019 15:14
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The Honk-a-Meter was loving incredible. I loved hearing him talk about being The Honky Tonky Man's record every week and being The Greatest Intercontinental Champion of "all the times". Plus that was like peak Santino + Beth stuff, which was also pretty great.
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Sep 25, 2019 19:56
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LividLiquid posted:It was your usual transphobic bullshit about how trans women shouldn't compete with cis women because they're actually men. Worse yet, he was even talking about wrestling, where it isn't actually a competition. Didn't he also say intergender wrestling is bad because it convinces women they can beat up men in real life fights, thus giving them some inflated sense of power that would lead to them getting beaten up all of the time? Or was that a different moron?
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Sep 26, 2019 13:46
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It definitely has its moments of circus activity, like Patterson, Brisco, and one of Godfather's ladies (didn't she turn out to be Victoria or someone like that) all becoming champions in goofy ways backstage. You also had less silly stuff, too, like Raven as champion and the amazing 3-way match with Kane and Big Show at Mania.
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Oct 9, 2019 13:44
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Low Desert Punk posted:Yoko in WCW would've been pretty dope honestly if he kept losing weight I can't think of a place where he would have had less of a chance to lose weight than in WCW. I don't think anyone running things would have monitored it or cared.
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Oct 11, 2019 00:10
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Jerusalem posted:Also part of what made Sting go,"gently caress this noise" and spend a year in the rafters was because after all the benefit of the doubt he gave to Luger and going to bat for him when others talked poo poo about him, the moment nWo Sting showed up Luger didn't show the slightest hesitation in believing Sting had betrayed him and the rest of WCW. Sometimes I really miss WCW. I was always a WWF kid growing up and while I watched Nitro every week, too, it was never necessarily my favorite. Anytime the Sting/Luger/nWo stuff comes up I just want to go back and watch it all.
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Oct 11, 2019 13:52
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Big Show's WWECW run was also kind of fun. He seemed interested, at least. Also, Show Miz.
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Oct 18, 2019 00:01
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TheKingslayer posted:'With the deepest regrets, and tears that are soaked 
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Oct 18, 2019 12:55
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Speaking of the Tombstone, what other moves have been around a while and are now named after a wrestler or their gimmick, instead of whatever it was originally called? Sharpshooter is one, what was the Crippler Crossface called before Benoit if anything? I always liked that they called it the Spicolli Driver in ECW after he passed away, but it never really stuck except with nerds I guess. Rings of Saturn probably falls into that Crippler Crossface category? I don't know what that thing would have been called before he used it, but that's the only thing I know to call it. Diamond Cutter is called way more than the Ace Cutter, but what was it even called before it was the Ace Cutter? Just a Cutter?
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Oct 23, 2019 15:52
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Blast Fantasto posted:Johnny Ace called it the Ace Crusher/Crusher. It was only after DDP that people started calling it a cutter. Derp, Ace Crusher not Cutter. Shows how much DDP did to change the perception of that move and who is most associated with it at first thought for many of us.
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Oct 23, 2019 18:50
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I know some guys in WCW used to do it, but not with the effect of the coins spilling everywhere. I think there's also a story of one of the Rougeau Brothers knocking out one of the British Bulldogs backstage (or vice versa) sometime in the 80s with the same method.
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Nov 1, 2019 23:54
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I agree, and looking back I'm surprised they let him do it. Wasn't that after piledrivers were banned for everyone but Taker, Kane, and occasionally Lawler? His thighs and rear end were so huge, though, that I doubt anyone could have ever come close to hitting the mat. Probably the safest sitout piledriver anyone could have ever taken.
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Nov 14, 2019 20:13
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I thought someone hosed up giving one to The Undertaker and that was the reason? Could've sworn it was one of those spots where someone reversed the Tombstone on him or something like that. Could totally be wrong, though, and probably am.
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Nov 14, 2019 23:00
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Didn't Sandman also almost become the RAW GM before it wound up being Regal or someone else? I feel like Sandman had a couple of real close calls of doing things in WWE that would have been interesting in a new and bizarre way, but then he missed out.
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Nov 18, 2019 22:19
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jesus WEP posted:Nakamura’s WWE theme is better you’re just nostalgic It's true. I loving loved his NJPW theme, but I went so long without hearing it that when I finally did again I was surprised at how much bigger and more epic his WWE theme seemed in comparison. Both themes are great, though.
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Nov 24, 2019 16:55
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MrBling posted:I'm bad with money, so if I want to buy like old NWA/WCW wrestling figures or japanese ones is all just ebay or are there any other good sites that sell them? Toudoukan is in Japan and is like the holy grail of wresting shops: https://www.toudoukan.com/@en/ I think they'll ship if you order enough stuff and they're adding new stock literally ever day. Lots of cool finds as far as figures go. When I was visiting for Wrestle Kingdom I got an out-of-box Hayabusa and a still-in-box Minoru Suzuki vs Jushin Liger Pancrase X New Japan set. You'll find many things you don't need and everything you want.
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Nov 25, 2019 20:45
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My favorite gimmick match is the dog collar match. It's such a gruesome concept and done so rarely on large stages these days.
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Dec 9, 2019 21:13
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Halloween Jack posted:Ha, gently caress, I was just about to post that. A lot of times you can't tell the difference, since he's landing next to the guy and you can't see how much weight is leaning on the target. Then there are the ones where you can just see him landing elbow-first on a guy. Sick. It's also super telling watching the guys receiving the elbows. The reactions of the dudes in the latter part of the video are so much more true to life of a dude landing on top of you, especially one where he just elbows DDP in the gut instead of landing on the chest. Never really noticed the change before, but I also checked out on all of his stuff in WCW anyway at that point.
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Dec 17, 2019 16:38
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Low Desert Punk posted:would it really have been that difficult to just use a new finish instead of an elbow drop? Maybe you could bust it out for really, really big matches But nostalgia! I imagine everyone figured it would ruin the mystique of those guys if they just suddenly started using a new finisher when they got too old, plus it would be a clear signal that they WERE too old and shouldn't even be wrestling anymore. Kudos to the guys who get by on low impact, low effort finishers like an iron claw or sleeper hold.
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Dec 17, 2019 17:13
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The Lord of Hats posted:If Corpus Christi is so widely known to be a terrible crowd, why do companies keep going there? Do the tickets sell well? I feel like this is AEW trying to prove that there are no bad towns/crowds, just towns/crowds who won't cheer for the same bullshit they've been getting for 20 years. Wasn't Pittsburgh also known as a "notoriously bad crowd" town and they were super pumped for Dynamite the entire show?
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Dec 18, 2019 23:01
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Lamuella posted:Has anyone in wrestling ever actually got over because of a gimmick about having an outside job? Big Boss Man is an easy one, I think. This is a pretty interesting question. I figured I'd be able to think of a handful right away but, really, most of those gimmicks fell flat a lot of the time. Maybe we can count The Mountie, too? I guess if someone wants to get over in wrestling with an outside job gimmick, they just need to be cops.
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Dec 20, 2019 16:53
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Show also had that spectacle where he murdered Ric Flair on ECW TV I remember this being very fun but don't want to chance it by going back and watching it now
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Dec 23, 2019 00:09
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Julio Cruz posted:What would people say is the most famous/iconic face turn in wrestling history? I don't know how it ranks on the lists, but the Mr Perfect turn after Heenan slapped him on Prime Time is loving incredible. I feel like this is kind of a hard done. Face turns don't seem to have as much longevity as big moments as heel turns do in my head for some reason. Maybe because heel turns tend to happen because of the heel's actions and face turns tend to happen because of someone doing something to them or being saved by someone else.
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Jan 3, 2020 22:10
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Gavok posted:This will always be my favorite one. It's just so well done and is one of those special wrestling moments where poo poo is hosed due to real life and they pull out a gem with their backs to the wall. Just reading this is so loving good so I looked it up to see if anyone had it available on YouTube. We're all in luck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCvi1JuF4uU
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Jan 4, 2020 07:21
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The best referee is Mike Chioda because he's consistently good at his job, rarely if ever fucks up (that I can remember, at least), and is a background player not taking any spotlight for himself. Plus, he was the first ref I saw throw up the devil horns to signal for a 2-count and I always loved that.
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Jan 12, 2020 17:25
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I remember the FSN era being really great. Am I misremembering? In my hazy memory, it was when the X Division was getting a lot of attention and we got those crazy tag team matches (including the tag team cage match) between AMW and XXX. My timeline is most likely off and just mashing together all of the stuff I liked.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:00
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MassRafTer posted:It was a mixed bag. The show was OK and had better wrestling than the Russo era, but the company's direction was incredibly boring in 2004. It only got worse as they brought in Hall, Nash, Savage, DDP and pushing some really bad projects. But there were still some great matches to counter the bad stuff. But maybe half of the PPVs were good? Ahh that's right. I totally forgot about that period between FSN and Spike.
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Jan 14, 2020 00:57
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NikkolasKing posted:Who is the shortest wrestler to do the "step over the top rope" entrance? I don't know if they ever did it regularly but I feel like this is a thing Spike Dudley or Crash Holly would've done.
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Jan 21, 2020 06:33
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NikkolasKing posted:Is The Sandman a truly bad wrestler or just a lovably sloppy wrestler? I imagine he has to be at least passable and not bad to have lasted as long as he did in ECW, WCW, and WWE. I know there are/were terrible wrestlers in all of those promotions but everyone mostly at least knew the basics. I only saw him briefly as the surfer Sandman but I don't remember him being laughably terrible. I think it's more a case of leaning to his strengths which were his aura and entrance and just doing a few moves mixed with simple brawling. That being said, I haven't seen a "Sandman in his prime" match in ages so I could be completely wrong.
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Feb 3, 2020 14:21
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Pope Corky the IX posted:RAW IS WAR'S A THORN That rooftop intro with everyone fighting and fire everywhere was like the coolest poo poo to me as a kid. Even that other one with Austin walking through a dilapidated warehouse with burning barrels or whatever. It all felt so cool and dangerous. I think the lesson here is, more things need to be grimy and on fire in WWE and then maybe one day I'll be interested again.
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Feb 12, 2020 16:45
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Hedgehog Pie posted:The exploding Nitro intro was great. It really is insane how miles ahead of everyone WWE has always been with video production. I guess it's finally starting to change now with how AEW utilizes cinematography and some of the UK/Europe indies doing some neat videos, but it was always the one thing that stuck out to me in the WCW vs WWF era.
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Why is it sometimes Jushin Liger and other times Jyushin Liger? Even NJPW has done it both ways recently.
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