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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Didn't you already post Cerberus? I could of sworn we had a discussion on whether it represented nerd gatekeeping.

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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Who else reads all setting histories in the voice of Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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My first exposure to Gully Dwarves was from the 2nd Ed player supplement The Complete Book of Dwarves. They were total garbage, and I could never figure out why they were presented as a player option. They weren't just garbage mechanically, they seemed completely uninteresting to role-play.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I remember from old articles of Dragon Magazine that Ed Greenwood expanded his dumb "Elminster hangs out in my living room" stories to "Elminster, Mordenkainen, and Raistlin hang out in my living room". Except at a certain point Raistlin gets replaced with some other Dragonlance mage that even setting fans were writing in asking "wait, who is this person?"

At the time I assumed the reason was some metaplot nonsense. As I learn more about Raistlin, my headcanon is now that Ed got sick of writing for him. And if Ed Greenwood thinks your super-wizard is a tool, you've reached new levels of shame.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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PurpleXVI posted:

Don't forget btw that Elminster gets to Ed Greenwood's living room from his personal death star battle station orbiting the same star as Faerun(or is Faerun the continent, and Toril the planet? Whatevs.).

I've heard about the Forgotten Realms Starbase, but did anything interesting ever happen there?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I also think that some parts are so ludicrous that DMs just edited them out mentally and never thought of them as part of the module even if they technically were (the random encounter schedule in particular-I suspect a lot of groups just moved the story along and forgot they were a part of the adventure to begin with).

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I got to admit I'm a sucker for a nice looking grid map, and that tower there is refined grog cocaine.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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MonsterEnvy posted:

At least the Metallics did decided to do something once they found out the eggs were being hosed with.

I was half expecting there to be some bullshit diplomacy checks because even after the reveal the Metallics initial response would be "That's awful...but an oath's an oath! Wouldn't want to be called deal-breakers, now do we? :downs:"

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Do we know anything about the group Hickman and Weis first ran these adventures?

Because it occurred to me that, specifically in regard to Kender, that it might not be a case of Tracy having brainworms over a good-aligned thief, but rather the typical nerd fallacy of being unwilling to call out someone behaving like a jackass at the table.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I wouldn't put Soth above Vecna. Or even Acererak.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Best Krynn: "Deicide Day really is my favorite time of the year."

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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:golfclap: for using the RIFTS font.

So for those that never read Dragonlance: what was the actual climax? And what's the point of random-generating it?

(I'd be impressed if there was some Crisis On Infinite Krynn scenario that culminates in so-and-so Prime punching the page to fix everything, but I'm not holding my breath).

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Tibalt posted:

Now I want someone to describe Star Trek to me after only reading the Klingon focused EU novels.

"Mostly it's about being thirsty for rhino-people in loving sadomasochistic relationships and committee political maneuvers."

Or someone to describe Star Wars when all they've read are the Republic Commando novels

well, besides Karen Traviss :v:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Well completed my latest thread catch-up.

Regarding Hunter: the Reckoning-what if this was all just a way to trick people into playing extras in LARPs? "Oh sure you're a full participant! Just one that has no powers and runs away from everything!"

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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If you're up for it Night, I wouldn't mind reading a summary of your campaigns. (what's a campaign if not a fan-made adventure module?)

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Sea Org gets recruited to the Astrum Militarum. Unlike the not-Space Marines, they are "specialized" for aquatic warfare. L Ron 40K figured that would be the best way to keep the failsons alive long enough to funnel their life savings to him.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Xiahou Dun posted:

Uh if you wanted to say, run some WHFRP over discord I know a server and at least one incredibly enthusiastic potential player.

Same

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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90s Cringe Rock posted:

it's a shame they made a new model for nagash instead of just converting the old one to plastic and letting everyone experience it

I myself am outraged at the erasure of Chuberism from modern culture (R.I.P. Robert Z'Dar :( )

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Speak for yourself. There is only one correct voice to hear Nagash in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd-YkMZs6Po

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Ithle01 posted:

Thought of Darkness, Part Two

Let's talk about the fight against the dick-monsters. Vampire illithids are like regular vampire combined with illithids. They start the fight with a psionic blast to paralyze you and then engage with their tentacles. Each enemy gets four attacks per round - one for each tentacle - that deal minor damage, but drain two levels on a hit. That's twelve attacks each round that drain two levels on each hit in a realm where if you sleep you get ambushed by nightmares and players explicitly cannot regain spells above third level. Good loving luck. Turning the vampires doesn't work because that would be too easy. Because they're vampires the monsters regain hit points each round and on a successful hit with their level drain attack so this fight might go quickly or take forever while the party doom spirals down the drain as the vampires heal off of their level drain. Also, the vampires' psionic blast is stronger than normal illithids and the saving throw is at a -4 penalty. Failure paralyzes the victim for 1d6 rounds and causes an automatic madness check. Unlike the other inhabitants of Bluetspur these enemies will try to kill PCs and eat their brains. No mercy, no prisoners because vampire illithids are deranged monsters that are rejected by the illithid society of the domain for being too dangerous. Annitella will tremble in terror, but eventually assist the party. After the fight is over (assuming you survive) Annitella explains that these are the spawn of von Zarovich she was warning you about. That's about it. If you kill the vampire illithids they turn to mist and flee down a crack in the caves, but their lair isn't very far off and you can kill them while they're recovering in a comatose state. There is no treasure.

Are we sure this wasn't written as a way to break up with your group?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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:sickos:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Falconier111 posted:

I couldn’t decide what parts of this I wanted to quote, so I quoted it all. I mean, I know this is the 90s, not the 80s, but I’d associate emphasizing personalizing the setting so heavily that you imply not doing so makes you a worse GM with a more modern game than one published in the heyday of meta-plots.

Maybe I haven't read enough reviews, but I don't think 90s RPGs actually yelled at you for ignoring the meta-plot. It was more that zero support was provided if that's what your group wanted to do.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Loxbourne posted:

You may want to check back through the thread for our discussion of Deadlands. It had not one but multiple super-powerful NPCs the GM was supposed to use to beat uppity parties back into line if they went off the metaplot, and mechanical conceits set up to reset the metaplot if the PCs derailed it.

Obviously the game had no way to enforce their use, but it seemed to have genuinely never occurred to the Deadlands writers that players might want to shape their own world instead of just being spear-carriers as the pre-written plotline played out.

That would require looking at Confederate Apologia, and I'm not in the mood for that.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Alien Rope Burn posted:

Siembieda has, in a rare bit of self-awareness, admitted in the they're not really suited to tackle the Middle East, so it's been avoided.

Of course since this is Palladium, even this sensible policy has had dumb repercussions in their products. Ninjas & Supersies includes the martial art Ch'a Ch'uan, which was developed by ethnic-Chinese Muslims. But in order to avoid discussing Islam, according to N&S Ch'a Ch'uan is a Mongolian style (despite not having a Mongolian name) practiced by nomadic goat-herders who do jump-kicks from horseback.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Question: what's the source of the thread title?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Was Glory ever reviewed? I've only ever seen it mentioned in hushed tones.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Going through PurpleXVI's review I remember there was a smug comment about how Christianity (and Judaism, strangely enough) lost all popularity after the Fall because "well their messiah didn't show up, so checkmate theists :smug:".

Because it's not like there weren't other huge disasters in the past that Christianity survived through like the Black Death and the fall of the Roman Empire.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Coincidentally, I'm reading the newest Why Your Team Sucks articles on defector.com, and one of the reader submissions was a story about a sibling that had to have brain surgery and lost most of her memories (she's since recovered). But even though she couldn't recognize her family, she still knew deep down that the Detroit Lions sucked.

That story reminded me of the fiction from EP and got me wondering about an RPG where the set up is "you play as people recently awoken from a coma and you only remember trivial bullshit".

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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That a face that says "I'm cancelling my tinder subscription".

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Libertad!, unless I glossed over a post, other than Barovia all of the other Domains of Dreads appear to be new creations. Do these new books revisit the other Domains and Dreadlords from the 2E books?

I would love to see what these new authors make of a Dreadlord like Baron Urich Von Kharkov, or the City of the Dead, or that one Domain that was just "if you are above ground, exploded by lightning. If you are below ground, instant mindflayer thrall."

SirPhoebos fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Oct 19, 2022

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

Bluetspur is still around! 5e replaced Von Kharkov though, so anything you find about him is likely to be pre-Van Richten’s Guide by an old-school Ravenloft fan

Aww, :(

Pour one out for the Manther, then.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Libertad! posted:

If you want a good collection of classic domains revamped for 5e, Van Richten's Encyclopedia of Darklords & Domains is a 2 volume series that collects every pre-5e domain there is. It even takes domains that were detailed solely in novels or appeared just for one adventure, that's how comprehensive they are!

https://www.dmsguild.com/product/385023/Van-Richtens-Encyclopedia-of-Darklords--Domains-Volume-1


I saw Kharkov's name in the preview, and I had to buy to find out just how faithful they were to the source for this particular Darklord...

Van Ricten's Encyclopedia of Darklords and Domains posted:

Kharkov was born a panther in Toril.

:discourse:

Just...god bless the devoted fan of Ravenloft that brought this bit of nonsense all the way to 5th edition.

SirPhoebos fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Oct 22, 2022

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Time Wizards! has the same manic but very stupid energy that gave life to Zybourne Clock. At least they managed to fart out a pdf.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Why. Are there rules. For howitzers and and anti-tank weapons. In Vampire: The Masquerade?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Cessna posted:

Why does GTA - a game about stealing cars and low-level crime - have a tank?



Because sometimes gamers want to do dumb destructive stuff.

For a publisher that so desperately wanted to enforce a specific tone, White Wolf sure seemed more than happy to give players the tools to break that tone over their knees.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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:sigh:

Nice job bullying away a thread regular.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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":justpost:"

"...no, not like that"

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I feel that an apology is owed to Mors.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Pakxos posted:

I mean, what are they going to say, 'sorry we got what we wanted"? Better just to move on.

"Sorry for gatekeeping" would be a start.

And no, letting passive-agressive bullying just happen without any pushback is not better.

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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Arborea only has three layers.

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