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ZeroCount
Aug 12, 2013


I know everyone is ragging on Monte for the orbs and rightfully so but to me, the worst part of that last section was the loving shopping list. It's a D&D shopping table, that's all it is. And that makes no loving sense for what this game is supposed to be. Is your magic book-headed wizard supposed to be focusing on how much they have to spend to buy ice by the pound? What value is knowing the exact cost of an armchair in what is supposed to be a whimsical and surreal adventure?

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ZeroCount
Aug 12, 2013


These kind of shopping tables and the penny-pinching that comes with them isn't bad gameplay per se but it's very much inherent to a certain style of play, namely D&D and other games that focus heavily on wealth accumulation, inventory management and just generally being stocked up for dungeon scenarios. (And my personal opinion on D&D/Pathfinder aside, there's nothing inherently wrong with that genre). It feels so jarring with everything this game has apparently been about up to this point. Why does this game about playing dream-trading narrative wizards who live in a higher dimension care about the market differences between certain types of lamp?

Monte Cook can try all he want but he will never leave D&D. The disease is inside him.

ZeroCount
Aug 12, 2013


ChaseSP posted:

I like/dislike how Warham 4e addressed the issue of adventurers being wealthy enough to quit if lucky by just having them lose it through gambling drinking or other methods unless they bank it.

FantasyCraft does something similar where your characters literally have a stat that determines how much of their money they're allowed to keep between adventures, with all the rest being just thrown away on boozing, disreputable behaviour and living expenses.

ZeroCount
Aug 12, 2013


I prefer 3E to 2E by a fairly vast amount, stuff like Spirit just feels so anaemic compared to what 3E brings to the table

ZeroCount
Aug 12, 2013


Pretty much all of the quotes in the Nobilis books aren't actually real, yes. They're made up.

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ZeroCount
Aug 12, 2013


wiegieman posted:

Just God, bigger than all the other Gods, not a big deal.

is this the lady of pain argument 2.0

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