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 Season 3 is here! I've thrown together a quick OP so I can watch the latest episode, let me know if there is anything I should add! I had no idea what to do for the thread title. Here is a great summary of everything that happened last season!  Vincent Martino and Frankie Martino (James Franco), identical twin brothers who operate a bar for the mob. In season 2 they expanded into the brothel and club fields at the behest of Mafia capo Rudy Pipilo (Michael Rispoli). Vince has become tired with the lifestyle and wants out, while Frankie has gotten more involved in the porn business and, as a producer, sold shares of Red Hot to two competing mafiosos.  Eileen "Candy" Merrell (Maggie Gyllenhaal), an independent (no pimp) sex worker trying to provide for her son while navigating the dangerous streets of NY. Last season Candy became involved with pornography and showed a flair for setting the scene. In season 2 she had become a more prominent member in the industry, focusing on feeling rather than the traditional wooden acting.  Abigail "Abby" Parker (Margarita Levieva), a college student from a wealthy family who strikes up a relationship with Vincent following his separation. Last season she took a job at the bar and developed a relationship with Ashley, on of C.C.'s girls, and helped her get away from her life as a sex worker. Ashley died last season after trying to help workers get out of the life, Abby and Vince often have a rocky relationship.  Bobby Dwyer (Chris Bauer), brother-in-law to Vince and Frankie. A former construction foreman turned brothel operator, Bobby quickly turned from family man into philanderer. Bobby runs a brothel and has separated from his wife. His son (James Gandolfini's son irl!) has started to follow in his footsteps. Last season Bobby and Frankie killed CC.  Paul Hendrickson (Chris Coy), bartender and good friend of Vince and Abby. Paul operates his own bar now.  Lori (Emily Meade), a new sex worker in town. Lori began working in pornography in Season 1, much to the anger of her pimp, CC. Last season she stared in a successful film and separated from CC, however she was still very afraid of him, not knowing he is dead. Frankie informs her, however, and she ends Season 2 happy.  Chris Alston (Lawrence Gilliard Jr.), an NYPD patrolman who moved up the ranks to detective after protecting The Company from a news story his girlfriend was preparing that would have hurt the NYPD's reputation. Alston is a guy who is good at heart, though he did cover up the murder-suicide of his former partner last season.  Tommy Longo (Daniel Sauli), Rudy's calm mannered enforcer. Tommy is very likable, however is capable of extreme violence.  Big Mike (Mustafa Shakir), one of Vince and Frankie's workers/ enforcers. Big Mike mostly works at Vince's dance bar.  Black Frankie (Thaddeus Street), named so as not to cause confusion with Frankie Martino, is a guard/ enforcer working at the brothel.  Harvey (David Krumholtz) is a porn director/ owner of a production company. He and Candy often fight, but have a deep respect and friendship with one another. Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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God I love this show and this third (and final) season really snuck up on me. I really dug season 1 but season 2 was fantastic and I have high hopes for this one. Last season Larry Brown was the standout character for me, his enthusiasm for acting was just infectious. I can't wait to see where everything is gonna end up even if I know the broad strokes of what happened in history.
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Sep 10, 2019 11:53
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I completely forgot about this show despite S1 being amazing. I'll have to binge season 2 some point soon and revel in the wonderful wigs once more.
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Sep 10, 2019 12:28
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I just finished the first episode: it continues to be fantastic. Things are darker and dirtier than ever, with the HIV/AIDS epidemic hitting. I think there is going to be a lot of sadness this season.
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Sep 10, 2019 13:05
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My favorite Blondie song in the intro, nice! No Darlene or Larry Brown. Are their stories over? Herc as the transit cop was lots of fun.
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Sep 10, 2019 23:56
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Paul and Luke Kirby's character are gonna be hit hard by the AIDS epidemic. It's not gonna be pretty. 
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Sep 11, 2019 04:35
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escape artist posted:Herc as the transit cop was lots of fun. i really enjoyed Herc in this episode i'm stoked to see how much more he does this season. he seemed so much more loose and natural in this role than anything i've seen him in before. side note, i had to pause because i started laughing so hard when it cut to Lori in the bathroom licking cocaine off the wrapper like a rabid dog
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Sep 11, 2019 04:56
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Ageless frankie
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Sep 11, 2019 09:35
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Suxpool posted:side note, i had to pause because i started laughing so hard when it cut to Lori in the bathroom licking cocaine off the wrapper like a rabid dog That was great. I also laughed loving hard at Bobby's hairpiece when he first showed up on camera.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:52
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My only, sole complaint with the episode was that the awesomeness of the soundtrack sometimes eclipsed the dialogue. It didn't help that I had to sing along too. It is so, so good to have David Simon back on the air.
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Sep 12, 2019 23:35
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Show rules, time-traveling Herc rules.
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Sep 14, 2019 02:44
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Jose Oquendo posted:That was great. I also laughed loving hard at Bobby's hairpiece when he first showed up on camera. His wig bouncing backwards away from his head in the toilet cubicle towards the end of the episode absolutely killed me. God I'm gonna miss this show.
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Sep 14, 2019 03:05
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This one was a roller coaster; the enormous low of Candy and Melissa's "first time" conversation at the start - it starts funny, then it's suddenly not! - followed by so many solid light segments and one-liners ("Then you can make your own fuckin' chicken soup;" "I mean, I can never talk business on this thing - but, poo poo, I had to have it!" Eileen's directorial effort, a Martino family Confirmation.) It got me to the point where I knew we were just being setting up for heavy stuff, and sure enough that was followed by Paul's revelation about not being tested, Bobby's blithe dismissal that he don't got the Bug and never will, and scene after scene of "Frankie, man, what are you doing." Although I expect Rudy to get clipped before Frankie does, especially knowing how things go for the Five Families in the 80's. Also, between Paul's trip to the shore last season and Gene visiting the club tonight, this show's got a real motif about gay men passing through intense colored lighting to enter the realm of free sex. And where the gently caress is Larry JethroMcB fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Sep 17, 2019 |
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Sep 17, 2019 03:29
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Jesus, Gandolfini's kid is a 45 year old 19 year old.
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Sep 17, 2019 07:43
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I haven't found time to finish the first episode of the season but does Frank get the bug. I know at least one main characters gonna get it unless Simon really wants to subvert expectations
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Sep 17, 2019 08:49
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Milo and POTUS posted:I haven't found time to finish the first episode of the season but does Frank get the bug. I know at least one main characters gonna get it unless Simon really wants to subvert expectations Since it's aired, I'm not spoiler tagging it: His white blood cells are normal and his immune system is in good shape. All signs point to negative, Frankie's fine.
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Sep 18, 2019 01:14
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Do you mean Bobby? This was a great episode, made only better by the bizarro behavior of Goldman finding the HIV affected man who looks like him and having sex with him 
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Sep 19, 2019 01:29
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Professor Shark posted:Do you mean Bobby? Yep, I'm a jackass. In The Wire, his name was Frank.
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Sep 19, 2019 04:21
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Professor Shark posted:Do you mean Bobby? At least he used a condom!
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Sep 20, 2019 22:49
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Next!
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Sep 24, 2019 21:33
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The girl in the massage parlor straight up asking Bobby,"What do you actually do here?" absolutely cracked me up, since he didn't have a single loving thing to answer with beyond,"I gently caress a bunch of the girls for free." It's weird, I had started to get the impression that in spite of their initial impressions in season 1, it was going to end up being Vincent who gets killed/hosed up by the mob etc because Frankie seemed to actually be starting to develop some actual ability, but then this latest episode he tears a mobster a new one in "public" and he's also dealing with coked-up idiots (and is one himself) and child pornographers so now things seem to be see-sawing the other way. Also Candy's new boyfriend is way too chill and I'm dreading the other shoe dropping.
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Sep 25, 2019 06:55
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I don't know anything about the actual history here but I have some predictions/speculation I want to throw out there: Rudy being fed up with Frankies drug dealing ways, puts a hit out on him. Tommy, instead of killing Frankie, sells Rudy out to Gotti because he likes being in the drug business. Thus the era of the nice guy gangster ends.
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Sep 25, 2019 07:17
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Agreed, I think that this ends with either Frankie or Rudy dead or both. That was another great episode. I feel so strange after watching a David Simon show because while they don't always have the excitement or drama of other shows, they are basically short vignettes of characters so realistic that they feel like genuine people. I feel much more satisfied with them. After this show I've decided that I'm going back to actually finish Treme
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Sep 25, 2019 10:30
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David Morse outta nowhere at the top of the episode got an audible "Heyyyyyy, this'll be good" from meJerusalem posted:It's weird, I had started to get the impression that in spite of their initial impressions in season 1, it was going to end up being Vincent who gets killed/hosed up by the mob etc because Frankie seemed to actually be starting to develop some actual ability, but then this latest episode he tears a mobster a new one in "public" and he's also dealing with coked-up idiots (and is one himself) and child pornographers so now things seem to be see-sawing the other way. They are twins, "death by mistaken identity" would be kind of a dumb twist but it's still on the table. Also, part of me has always kind of expected a Mitchell brothers ending to their story. Professor Shark posted:After this show I've decided that I'm going back to actually finish Treme That's an idea I can get on board with (and, uh, The Wire for me as well. I still haven't seen seasons 4 or 5, it's inexcusable.)
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Sep 25, 2019 14:26
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Rudy is probably my favourite representation of a mob guy in any show, “Make me say “No” again.” is such a good line
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Sep 26, 2019 02:12
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JethroMcB posted:I still haven't seen seasons 4 You haven't seen season 4!?! That's... JethroMcB posted:inexcusable. Well, exactly!
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Sep 26, 2019 03:35
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Season 4 of The Wire is the greatest season of TV to ever exist. What are you doing? Take a few sick days and watch it. Hell, I'll join you.
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Sep 26, 2019 19:27
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Oct 1, 2019 03:48
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Yeah, there's the bummer episode I've been expecting all season (doubly so after that "everybody having a good night out on the town and getting laid" sequence.) And there's still half the season to deal with the fallout. Vince, get back with Zoe Kazan, those 80's feathery bangs are working overtime for her
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Oct 1, 2019 05:49
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Seriously tho what the hell happened to Larry Brown??
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Oct 1, 2019 07:23
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Of all the real-world characters they could have involved with this show, I would not have expected Andrea Dworkin. But I thought the actor did a great job, and that was a very strong and effective argument with Candy. So what does Rudy do now? Frankie was, technically, one of his guys even if he was a pain in the rear end, and I wouldn't be surprised if Vincent turns to Rudy for payback.
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Oct 1, 2019 13:36
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I don't know if see Vincent demanding it, as he's normally pretty level-headed and would understand that Frankie lived his life constantly pissing people off, however based on my knowledge of crime media Rudy can't have his people getting killed in the streets, even if it was caused by an off-the-books type situation. Frankie has had a target on his back since the first episode and I really cannot believe it took him this long to die. I thought they would do it simply due to the pain in the rear end filming James Franco would cause.
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Oct 1, 2019 20:46
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Poor Frankie. After scraping by for so long he appeared to carve himself out a decent little life, both professionally and with an apparently stable family. But he couldn't help being Frankie. It was obvious to the audience the danger he was putting himself in yet he never saw it coming.
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Oct 1, 2019 23:56
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Thought the back and forth between Dworkin and Candy was really well done. Meanwhile I felt almost nothing for Frankie, dude's been begging to get murdered for virtually the whole series, but especially these past few episodes. I'm more worried about the fate of Black Frankie, blackjacked trying to save a guy's life with a bic pen tracheotomy
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Oct 2, 2019 00:49
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nooneofconsequence posted:Poor Frankie. After scraping by for so long he appeared to carve himself out a decent little life, both professionally and with an apparently stable family. But he couldn't help being Frankie. It was obvious to the audience the danger he was putting himself in yet he never saw it coming. He was cutting corners everywhere for money. I thought he was saving up so he could get out of the life and be with his family. Trying to live like that permanently was crazy.
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Oct 2, 2019 00:54
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when i'm filming people loving what i'm after is the truest wildest poo poo thats already in all our heads this show is killer
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Oct 2, 2019 01:30
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There's that gutpunching episode I was bracing for. Feel bad about both Frankies, god drat. I have a feeling something terrible will happen to Big Mike as well which would mean all my favourite characters are gone. It's kind of crazy how much whiter the cast has gotten and I don't think that's unintentional. Meanwhile Vinnie and Bobbie will end up as real estate magnates or something. I also saw the following HBO video and David Simon makes a passing mention that they are based on real brothers, and that (Potential spoiler from RL)the real Vinnie is still around, or at least was long enough for Simon to meet him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjKLU_nMbfg
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Oct 2, 2019 02:07
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The Andrea Dworkin/Candy scene was fantastic, I was fully expecting Candy to come in and hit them with a big powerful speech and instead she took some really hard personal blows and basically made zero headway, but not in a way that felt like it was just a stubborn refusal to listen.double negative posted:I'm more worried about the fate of Black Frankie, blackjacked trying to save a guy's life with a bic pen tracheotomy Seriously, poor bastard is so competent and effective but of course all those guys see is some black dude who rushed into the hotel and supposedly stabbed some old white dude in the neck.
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Oct 2, 2019 07:59
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It sounds like he saved the guy, though? That's how I took the attempted murder charge, at least
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Professor Shark posted:It sounds like he saved the guy, though? That's how I took the attempted murder charge, at least Yeah but they're still charging him with attempted murder, which means either they think he was trying to murder the guy and they "saved" him by getting this "monster" off of the poor victim and calling paramedics, or they're trying to cover up that they gave a beating to a guy who was in the middle of saving a dying man's life because they jumped to conclusions.
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