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Some Guy TT posted:i dont like the framing of the scam as being particularly complicated because thats straight up pro wall street propaganda suggesting that the whole thing was unpredictable in reality these suit wearing fucks were all woefully incompetent at their jobs and none of them facing any consequences for what they did was a travesty Or are you saying the movie as a whole implicitly suggests what it explicitly denies? Sorry if this comes off as hostile, for all I know I could be misremembering.
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nah its fine im probably misremembering too the thing is regardless of whether they say the plan is complicated or not the fact that theyre using sexy celebrity takeaways to explain it suggests that they dont have faith in their own subject matter to be engaging at best theyre not saying that the plan is complicated theyre saying that the viewers are too stupid to understand it which in practical terms is just a difference in semantics like moneyball didnt feel the need to do any of this fourth wall breaking poo poo the people who made that movie very sincerely believed that all this wonky math stuff was interesting enough to hold the attention span of a mainstream audience and guess what theyre right and moneyball rules
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But in Moneyball, the lead absolutely had to explain to his number crunching to others within the text.
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Tricky D posted:But in Moneyball, the lead absolutely had to explain to his number crunching to others within the text. yeah the whole point of that movie was that the stats guys had to explain it over and over again to people who didn't understand. In the Big Short it's a bunch of stats guys talking to other stats guys so there's no audience surrogate to explain stuff to.
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they explain stuff to other people all the time and also do research because most of the characters start the movie out ignorant of how the mortgage backed securities actually work the great irony of big short in retrospect is that i cant actually remember what any of the takeaways were actually supposed to explain i just remember the gimmicks associated with them i vaguely remember gordon ramseys analogy about the fish market but that was just a more convoluted version of cristian bales very straightforward jenga explanation
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Some Guy TT posted:they explain stuff to other people all the time and also do research because most of the characters start the movie out ignorant of how the mortgage backed securities actually work I remember the Selena Gomez one explaining how people are betting on bets on bets on bets and every time the bets get bigger so as soon as you lose the first bet that everyone thought was a sure thing, suddenly you're $800B in the hole.
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Sure, the Margot Robbie hottub thing might be pandering, but it's way better than getting a Dune: Extended Edition style history lesson on how securities markets work.
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I'm pretty sure Moneyball logic was hugely influential on the Hillary campaign's use of "analytics" when it came to strange decisions like not committing treasure and resources to entire states that Trump ending up winning because their wonks decided they were Safe Blue.
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Buncha celebs telling you that number going up actually a land of contrasts
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little women was a typical melodramatic aspirational white lady movie. basically catnip for the jane austen demographic. it was ok aside from some poverty porn that offends my delicate sensibilities
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Rated PG-34 posted:little women was a typical melodramatic aspirational white lady movie. basically catnip for the jane austen demographic. it was ok aside from some poverty porn that offends my delicate sensibilities nice av
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm pretty sure Moneyball logic was hugely influential on the Hillary campaign's use of "analytics" when it came to strange decisions like not committing treasure and resources to entire states that Trump ending up winning because their wonks decided they were Safe Blue. ive thought this many times based on the way the campaign strategy has been described but ive never seen anyone in the campaign actually reference moneyball as a cited example for why they thought it would work my guess is that they were self aware enough to realize that doing so would make them look really really stupid
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Some Guy TT posted:ive thought this many times based on the way the campaign strategy has been described but ive never seen anyone in the campaign actually reference moneyball as a cited example for why they thought it would work I don't think it's Moneyball specifically, but basically the entire schema (one might say gimmick) of algorithm-driven decision-making.
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Freaking Crumbum posted:like the only real justification i could see in-setting for why some cops had to wear special costumes was so that they could act completely outside the boundaries of the law, which is an unnecessary premise in our actual reality, where uniformed officers can kill (poor/minority) people with impunity and expect to walk away totally free. it was this completely incongruous detail that actually made it harder for me to suspend my disbelief, because it was so clearly indicating that the creator didn't even understand how contemporary police forces operate. It didnt seem like a huge stretch to me because I thought that this was going to be the point and that the series was going for some sort of social commentary about how IRL cops and fascists use imagery like soldiers and superheroes. like a metaphor for how we argue about culture war poo poo. instead the theme was uhhh racism
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why the gently caress are rage comics back in the (internet) culture
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:why the gently caress are rage comics back in the (internet) culture Probably a combination of nostalgia and the Chans meme craft.
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Some Guy TT posted:ive thought this many times based on the way the campaign strategy has been described but ive never seen anyone in the campaign actually reference moneyball as a cited example for why they thought it would work naw, its because nate left baseball/sabremetrics to found 538 which is what the wonks rubbed themselves raw over
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https://twitter.com/consequence/status/1220017924854906888?s=20 https://twitter.com/GrimezszCharts/status/1219847470580146177?s=20 we gotta start sterilizing rich people
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/consequence/status/1220017924854906888?s=20 pretty try-hard IMO
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Was that bow designed by HR Giger? Is Elon Musk gonna go full Peter Weyland?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/consequence/status/1220017924854906888?s=20 I just found another video made by Grimes baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8-eiBqri0U Baron Trumponen better watch out for this poo poo
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Grimes is gonna make Dune passe again
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Their baby is going to be cupid, but evil. That's something I guess.
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i dont know if thats a hamilton lyric, biggie might have words
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Suplex Liberace posted:i dont know if thats a hamilton lyric, biggie might have words Biggie stole it from original G Paul Harvey. Good day! E: oh I guess that was "now you know... The rest of the story." gently caress it
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that baby already possesses more wealth than literally every single person posting on this forum has put together
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:why the gently caress are rage comics back in the (internet) culture Someone made a salient tweet comparing the wojak meme to it and now people are nostalgic for that simpler era
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*le me posting on c-spam like a bau5
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the tree of life is a beautiful, devastating, frustrating, inspiring piece of visual art. it's not a very good movie, but that's not the point. it's one of those movies where the creation is the art, and the act of an audience seeing it is irrelevant to its purpose. but it's not a very good movie.
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Joker is a comic book movie but the comic in question is Johnny the Homicidal Maniac.
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ScrubLeague posted:the tree of life is a beautiful, devastating, frustrating, inspiring piece of visual art. it's not a very good movie, but that's not the point. it's one of those movies where the creation is the art, and the act of an audience seeing it is irrelevant to its purpose. but it's not a very good movie.
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i hate that baby Anyway, what are some of c-spam's favourite videogames with lefty themes or mechanics?
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T-man posted:i hate that baby Disco Elysium is too obvious probably right? In Red Faction: Guerilla you can smash up the property of a corporation on Mars which is topical.
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I just finished season two of Lodge 49 and godddddddamit. At least if it’s ending at the halfway point it’s ending with everyone doing well. It’s one of a few new shows where I actually started caring about the characters, instead of focusing solely on concept, so if it had ended with them all in misery or escalating peril I’d be a different sort of pissed off right now.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I don't think it's Moneyball specifically, but basically the entire schema (one might say gimmick) of algorithm-driven decision-making. Using advanced statistical analysis to make better decisions in sports is good, but sports are very controlled environments compared to elections. NBA analytics are resulting in incredibly satisfyig basketball where there's actually room in the lane instead of teams deciding everybody has to post up into clogged paint.
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