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LGD
Sep 25, 2004



Fleetwood posted:

I started reading the comic recently and so far I think the show version of Homelander is better

it is

the comic's twist ultimate twist with him/midnighterblack noir was pretty good, but I think the show was correct in concluding they shouldn't really do the same thing and the role is really elevated by Antony Starr's acting

LGD has issued a correction as of 21:58 on Oct 22, 2019

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Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk




Fleetwood posted:

I started reading the comic recently and so far I think the show version of Homelander is better

100000000% better

i'm actually really curious whether or not they're going to keep black noir's origin the same as the comics or change it up. fwiw i hope they change it up because i really don't need to see necrophilia on tv

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010




apparently theyve got a woman playing stormfront next season so either shes a skinhead or just magically takes the form of a WW2-era fascist

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:


hey if a former president can gently caress a baby to death then itís not too obscene to depict on tv

etalian
Mar 20, 2006



Freaking Crumbum posted:

that dude seriously carried the show. he is the most compelling tv villain i've seen since omar

Yeah the role was top notch especially how the character mixes creepiness, hubris with elements of tragedy since the whole origin story is a big fraud.

Also they apparently cut a over the top scene from the TV series in which Homelander indulges in his god complex by whacking off over NYC.

etalian has issued a correction as of 22:20 on Oct 22, 2019

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos


Bro Dad posted:

apparently theyve got a woman playing stormfront next season so either shes a skinhead or just magically takes the form of a WW2-era fascist

My guess would be valkyrie aesthetics with an Ilsa personality

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene


Fleetwood posted:

this reminded me of a Chuck Palahniuk interview from 2002 in Too Much Coffee Man Magazine
palalahaunianiak is a chud lol. someone foud him on ig cavorting with a gay nazi wolf cult

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010



lmao can't say I'm surprised

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Still funny to me that they are turning the boys into a successful tv show considering the amount of ghoulish sexual violence and gore that happens in that comic.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.









A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Still funny to me that they are turning the boys into a successful tv show considering the amount of ghoulish sexual violence and gore that happens in that comic.

its one of those things that very much benefits from editing

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


Fleetwood posted:

I started reading the comic recently and so far I think the show version of Homelander is better

They're very different versions for very different landscapes re: superhero media and culture at large

The boys started before iron Man came out, for reference

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


LGD posted:

it is

the comic's twist ultimate twist

I feel like giving away the twist when the shoe hasn't actually ruled that out is not good so maybe don't

Like nothing in the show says that reveal can't happen

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Agreed. Garth loves to coat his interesting moral themes in too many layers of exploitation gore porn to make it unforgettable, but by the 4th rape and scat epic the details of the depravity are very rote.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


You can just fill it in as ďcarnal horror happensĒ

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


Also I doubt storefront willl be an actual ww2 Nazi bc stormfront was the Nazis attempt to create super soldiers during the war as a response to vogelbaum making superheroes and since Vought I'd a media company getting into war, not a war company that got into media, that

Didn't happen? Probably anyway

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


I'm friends with a bunch of folks who either write comics or write about comics and the one thing we all agree on is Ennis really needs a good hand editing him so you don't lose the things he's good at but also less wild rape

Homelander eating a baby is the best part of the boys tho so idk maybe let him go wild

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.


MizPiz posted:

Different Dead or Alive

How humiliating.

I should have known because DoA is very mid-2000s trash, not late 90s.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011


BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I'm friends with a bunch of folks who either write comics or write about comics and the one thing we all agree on is Ennis really needs a good hand editing him so you don't lose the things he's good at but also less wild rape

Homelander eating a baby is the best part of the boys tho so idk maybe let him go wild

Battlefield series and his Punisher run show that. Even if one of the Battlefield stories involves a mass rape

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


KomradeX posted:

Battlefield series and his Punisher run show that. Even if one of the Battlefield stories involves a mass rape

Battlefields is also a book about the horrors of war and it doesn't feel nearly as exploitative as it usually would

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011


BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Battlefields is also a book about the horrors of war and it doesn't feel nearly as exploitative as it usually would

Well yeah, it's certainly not Crossed

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


I'm the year of our Lord 2007ish Garth Ennis put out a comic where he flatly says that the military functions by chewing up poor people, mostly minorities, and that part of why people are poor is so there will always be people willing to die to enrich the people at the top

He also put out one about a man loving am asteroid to death

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


KomradeX posted:

Well yeah, it's certainly not Crossed

Mostly written by other people! Not entirely his fault!

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I'm the year of our Lord 2007ish Garth Ennis put out a comic where he flatly says that the military functions by chewing up poor people, mostly minorities, and that part of why people are poor is so there will always be people willing to die to enrich the people at the top

He also put out one about a man loving am asteroid to death

Heís the James Joyce of mass market comix

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


The one part of the boys that I wish they hadn't changed but completely understand why they did is the part where they try to stop a plane hijacking

In the comic? That's 9/11. Two of the three planes get shot down by the air Force and the third is let go for ~reasons~ so that the seven can try to stop it and they fail miserably and it takes out the Brooklyn bridge

So when I realized what the show was doing my heart was in my throat because holy poo poo are they going to do 9/11

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.









I did like that Homelander just straight up quotes GWB afterwards

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene


i definitely thought sicario was dumb white boomer chud fantasy w/ cartels shooting it out with soldiers but it turns out no lol

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene


the rammstein Amerika video totally owns cause its like this damning indictment of neoliberal global capitalism from the losers of WWII

i feel like it's simultaneously inciseive and hugely problematic. if they hadn't got their poo poo pushed in by the USSR how would that music video play out?

Doctor Jeep
Dec 30, 2008



cargo cult posted:

the rammstein Amerika video totally owns cause its like this damning indictment of neoliberal global capitalism from the losers of WWII

i feel like it's simultaneously inciseive and hugely problematic. if they hadn't got their poo poo pushed in by the USSR how would that music video play out?

rammstein didn't lose ww2 and neither did they get their poo poo pushed in by the soviets

Serf
May 5, 2011




i started watching "succession" and this is like watching a documentary about aliens. setting aside the fact that i'm tired of media trying to get me to think that rich people have problems, i just can't understand anyone's motivations. the main guy loses his loving mind because his dad wants to keep being in charge and its like... okay?? who the gently caress wants MORE responsibility? these people are all billionaires, but they're cutting throats so they can do more loving work. is this mental illness? is it genetic? who wants to have people asking them questions and asking them to make decisions? that's the absolute opposite of what i want, and the idea that someone with more money than god would actively seek out more work is incomprehensible to me

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007



succession whips rear end. it took me 1.5 seasons to feelt he slightest bit of sympathy for anyone

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 12, 2007

by Cyrano4747


Someone described Succession as Arrested Development if the Bluths were 1%ers instead of just rich and they're not wrong

The show is about how all of these people are amoral freaks, everything they do is cruel and thoughtless, and Greg the nephew is, at the jump, the only remotely human person there

Which lasts for like an episode until he realizes these people are amoral freaks and appealing to their base cruelty will help him get a job

You're not supposed to feel bad for any of them. Why would you think you're supposed to feel bad for the Culkin who ripped up a million dollar check in front of a small child

Serf
May 5, 2011




i don't think the show wants me to feel bad for them, i think it wants me to believe they have problems. which they don't

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007



Serf posted:

i don't think the show wants me to feel bad for them, i think it wants me to believe they have problems. which they don't

without spoiling anything season 2 is really about how they dont have problems except the ones they create

Serf
May 5, 2011




succession

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185988194111836160
https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185996613883486208

i disagree with the last tweet because the MCU defense force isn't saying "let people enjoy things." hell, that's what they like to say to other people as a way to shut down debate. the way i see it, they're saying some combination of "actually this children's cartoon comic book movie has important themes that only adults can get" and sweeping generalizations about how they're white male movies, so the very diverse comic book movies are better by default

first tweet is good though

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007



get that OUT of my face posted:

https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185988194111836160
https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185996613883486208

i disagree with the last tweet because the MCU defense force isn't saying "let people enjoy things." hell, that's what they like to say to other people as a way to shut down debate. the way i see it, they're saying some combination of "actually this children's cartoon comic book movie has important themes that only adults can get" and sweeping generalizations about how they're white male movies, so the very diverse comic book movies are better by default

first tweet is good though

they just switch between the two depending on what argument you make

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!


get that OUT of my face posted:

https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185988194111836160
https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185996613883486208

i disagree with the last tweet because the MCU defense force isn't saying "let people enjoy things." hell, that's what they like to say to other people as a way to shut down debate. the way i see it, they're saying some combination of "actually this children's cartoon comic book movie has important themes that only adults can get" and sweeping generalizations about how they're white male movies, so the very diverse comic book movies are better by default

first tweet is good though

I do like how high and mighty this tweeter is getting. I guess woke framing is the way forward but man is it going to get tedious

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.



I like staying in on fridays too but I donít make a face like Iím trying to convince Friday that it has the biggest dick Iíve ever seen about it. Jfc.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


It's called the soyface

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Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012



This is the stupidest loving feud imaginable, made all the more stupid by the fact that social media keeps advertising it to me because it knows I'm a loving geek and therefore assumes this is the most singular thing I could possibly be invested in when holy poo poo do I not care at this point.

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