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Sep 21, 2021 02:34
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Why the last man did what? what did he do?
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Sep 21, 2021 02:38
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i say swears online posted:they explained this in episode one, keep up
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Sep 21, 2021 02:47
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Blood Boils posted:I mean y the last man was a lame comic so they're just staying true to the source material there’s no way they’re going to keep the bit where Israel takes advantage of the dudecide to appropriate land not just from Palestine but from neighboring Arab countries or the ninja from Japan gotta feeling they’ll keep the transphobic violence
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Sep 21, 2021 02:52
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Judakel posted:goddamn, that blew rear end. don't watch y the last man, it left me saying y did this show get greenlit hows the trans stuff i heard it had trans stuff
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Sep 21, 2021 02:55
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Some Guy TT posted:hows the trans stuff i heard it had trans stuff i mean the central conceit is hosed up now that we're all more socially aware - it just sends a bad message. there's trans men and they kinda just go "i hate having to explain my existence" and horde testosterone because all systems are failing but the libs vs. repubs stuff is by far the worst part and completely unexpected. the villain is an antivaxxer who loves guns
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Sep 21, 2021 02:58
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indigi posted:smh if you've never been. i spent an evening there once and have forever been haunted by a billboard for a restaurant I should have gone to. it claimed to feature a talking pig. what wonders did I miss out on.
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Sep 21, 2021 03:48
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Judakel posted:i mean the central conceit is hosed up now that we're all more socially aware - it just sends a bad message. there's trans men and they kinda just go "i hate having to explain my existence" and horde testosterone because all systems are failing There's also Amber Tamblyn doing a bad Meghan McCain impression
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Sep 21, 2021 04:04
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Serf posted:asking the white lady where her ancestors got the african artifacts in their museum. literally that's it lol. no mention of how the movie shows the wakandans allying with the cia or how killmonger's plan was to arm oppressed people across the globe Can we all agree that “global race war + authoritarian ethno-state” should not be the end goal for a hero? That’s just Boogaloo poo poo. When I’m not here bitching about spandex soap operas, my other obsession is keeping track of white nationalists, Christians dominionist, and other right wing domestic terrorists. Killmonger pretty much has the same vision of the future as those chuds, he just happens to be a beautiful black man with a cool 90s hip hop theme. Granted, the basis for grievances are more than legitimate (even allowing for murdered-dad vengeance), but his desired outcome is not. You cannot meet oppression with oppression.
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Sep 21, 2021 04:11
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Atrocious Joe posted:Can we all agree that “global race war + authoritarian ethno-state” should not be the end goal for a hero? nah, kill the oppressors. the movie is basically "the spook who sat by the door" without any guts
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Sep 21, 2021 04:37
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Snake Dance posted:There's also Amber Tamblyn doing a bad Meghan McCain impression when you attract that kinda lib, you gotta rethink how you wrote the factions, i would imagine
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Sep 21, 2021 04:41
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Atrocious Joe posted:Can we all agree that “global race war + authoritarian ethno-state” should not be the end goal for a hero? I thought these posts only existed on twitter lol
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Sep 21, 2021 04:42
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i mean he is right the black nationalist is not a hero either, and that's pretty much what killmonger is in the movie
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Sep 21, 2021 04:43
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Sep 21, 2021 04:51
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Serf posted:nah, kill the oppressors. the movie is basically "the spook who sat by the door" without any guts Killmonger is a villain, a straight-up monster who would never really work toward his stated goals. Yes, the injustice is real and his motives are sympathetic, but that doesn't make him a hero no matter how much some fans want to pretend he already is. He is a self-serving totalitarian who like many totalitarians of the past has an actual honest to god imperialist threat opposite to him. Doesn't make him any less of a self-serving totalitarian though.
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Sep 21, 2021 04:55
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Judakel posted:folx idk why exactly but I loving despise “folx” it’s like the ultimate meaningless woke gesture. we need to decolonize ks
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Sep 21, 2021 04:56
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Atrocious Joe posted:When I’m not here bitching about spandex soap operas, my other obsession is keeping track of white nationalists, Christians dominionist, and other right wing domestic terrorists. Killmonger pretty much has the same vision of the future as those chuds, he just happens to be a beautiful black man with a cool 90s hip hop theme. he seemed fine with other non-whites so it’s not really a 1:1
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Sep 21, 2021 05:01
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Atrocious Joe posted:Killmonger is a villain, a straight-up monster who would never really work toward his stated goals. Yes, the injustice is real and his motives are sympathetic, but that doesn't make him a hero no matter how much some fans want to pretend he already is. is there supposed to be a point to this?
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Sep 21, 2021 05:02
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indigi posted:idk why exactly but I loving despise “folx” folks is already the perfect gender-neutral word. it doesn't need fixing imo
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Sep 21, 2021 05:03
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slicing up eyeballs posted:I thought these posts only existed on twitter lol the posts are coming from inside the forums
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Sep 21, 2021 05:08
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Serf posted:black internationalist i think he just wants one nation and to kill at least the whites, which is genocide
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Sep 21, 2021 05:09
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Judakel posted:i think he just wants one nation tbf, so do i. but you gotta start somewhere
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Sep 21, 2021 05:10
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Judakel posted:i think he just wants one nation I haven’t seen it since it came out but I don’t remember him being like “and then we’ll conquer India and China and Brazil and Micronesia” he seemed to just want to destroy America/Commonwealth countries/NATO like it’s not explicitly stated in the movie but if I had to guess I bet he’d probably leave Ireland alone
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Sep 21, 2021 05:11
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indigi posted:I haven’t seen it since it came out but I don’t remember him being like “and then we’ll conquer India and China and Brazil and Micronesia” he seemed to just want to destroy America/Commonwealth countries/NATO he wants to kill everywhere where black people need to be liberated
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Sep 21, 2021 05:13
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at no point is killmonger like "time to genocide the whites" lmao. the movie doesn't have 1/100th the guts to say something like that. the white genocide people would still be ranting about it if it had. the movie allows killmonger to have radical politics that are kept vague enough to not seriously unsettle the majority-white audience
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Sep 21, 2021 05:13
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Serf posted:at no point is killmonger like "time to genocide the whites" lmao. the movie doesn't have 1/100th the guts to say something like that. the white genocide people would still be ranting about it if it had. the movie allows killmonger to have radical politics that are kept vague enough to not seriously unsettle the majority-white audience there is literally no other point to the weaponry. it is the necessary end point of any conflict of the sort with those weapons
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Sep 21, 2021 05:16
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Judakel posted:there is literally no other point to the weaponry. it is the necessary end point of any conflict of the sort with those weapons i mean that's interesting but the south africans didn't end up genociding the whites in their country despite having every reason to, so i see no reason why we have to assume the endpoint of a revolution is genocide. this is a weird stance to take
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Sep 21, 2021 05:20
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Judakel posted:there is literally no other point to the weaponry. it is the necessary end point of any conflict of the sort with those weapons For all we know Killmonger would (and very well should!) have just enslaved the whites lmao
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Sep 21, 2021 05:22
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Judakel posted:he wants to kill everywhere where black people need to be liberated so Ireland is definitely fine
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Sep 21, 2021 05:22
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Serf posted:i mean that's interesting but the south africans didn't end up genociding the whites in their country despite having every reason to, so i see no reason why we have to assume the endpoint of a revolution is genocide. this is a weird stance to take south africa didn't have nukes. any attempt to unseat the us government that is even remotely close to being successful means self-nuking. hell, attempts to take land and form your own nation will yield the same result.
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Sep 21, 2021 05:23
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wait they had nukes? I thought it was just super AKs and fighter…. helicopters? those things they were flying weren’t jets, were they?
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Sep 21, 2021 05:24
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Plenty of people found things to be squeamish about in killmongers actions in disneys marvels black panther, it's a new one to me for people to denounce things he didn't do
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Sep 21, 2021 05:24
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indigi posted:so Ireland is definitely fine pretty sure his big global map shows weapons going to ireland as well as china lol Judakel posted:south africa didn't have nukes. any attempt to unseat the us government that is even remotely close to being successful means self-nuking. hell, attempts to take land and form your own nation will yield the same result. again, not sure what the point is here
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Sep 21, 2021 05:24
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indigi posted:wait they had nukes? I thought it was just super AKs and fighter…. helicopters? those things they were flying weren’t jets, were they? the us has nukes. wakanda probably doesnt need them
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Sep 21, 2021 05:24
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Serf posted:again, not sure what the point is here that the only way for such a liberatory movement to succeed would be to kill any potential conspirators
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Sep 21, 2021 05:25
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it is easy to dunk on the thesis that the path to black liberation are community centers (which will fail), but killmonger's plan was no better
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Sep 21, 2021 05:27
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Judakel posted:that the only way for such a liberatory movement to succeed would be to kill any potential conspirators this seems like you're making a lot of weird logical leaps but you're also overanalyzing the politics of a superhero movie produced by the disney corporation. probably best to not think too hard about it
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Sep 21, 2021 05:28
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Judakel posted:south africa didn't have nukes. any attempt to unseat the us government that is even remotely close to being successful means self-nuking. hell, attempts to take land and form your own nation will yield the same result. south africa had nukes, though. unless you mean that they were dismantled before the end of apartheid, in which case never mind
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Sep 21, 2021 05:29
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Serf posted:this seems like you're making a lot of weird logical leaps i don't see how they are leaps, you can't trust whitey in such a scenario and you have to eliminate anyone who could launch a nuke quickly.
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Sep 21, 2021 05:29
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seriously watch "the spook who sat by the door" for a movie with some actual substance that talks about black liberation in the imperial core
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Sep 21, 2021 05:30
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