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Nick Kroll is also from an obscenely wealthy family, right?

# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 20:56

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 21:42

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Echo Chamber posted:

My attention for seeking out causes of vague alienation in my adult life has shifted from "white liberalism" to "liberalism" in general.

a lib of any other color is still a lib

# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 21:17

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vyelkin posted:

crazy rich asians is basically just one of those interchangeable korean dramas about the poor girl who gets harassed by a billionaire heir until they fall in love and get married, only remade for western audiences

a goon in a different thread said that it was very true to asian romcoms or some other genre of pop culture when i said i didn't like it. ok, so? even if it's culturally accurate, the only happy ending i'd like to see in it is all the characters rounded up, shot, and with their wealth redistributed

# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 21:41

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this reminds me, i need to finish that Lindsay Ellis video about how death of the author is stupid

HerraS posted:

its easier to dedicate your life to some pop culture doodoo than having an actual personality

judging by how many people identify themselves by whatever usually mediocre pop culture they love to consume (9 times out of 10 it's Harry Potter and/or The Office), it sure seems that way

# ¿ Oct 4, 2019 13:50

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BUSH 2112 posted:

so i finally listened to Hamilton and now i'm loving obsessed with it and i'm just wondering how much of a douchebag i am

i know this is from last page, but i stand by the belief i've always had about Hamilton: if it were released in the '90s, it would have been laughed out of the room or considered to be cheesy edutainment nonsense. that's in addition to PoC-washing just how bad of a person the real Hamilton was and the universal love from elites of all industries

# ¿ Oct 4, 2019 14:37

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speaking of bad comic book panels, this one is no bueno
https://twitter.com/SeanRMoorhead/status/1162494430533816326

# ¿ Oct 4, 2019 18:48

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there have always been examples of hamfisted nonsense in comic books, lest you think it's confined to this era

# ¿ Oct 4, 2019 19:41

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etalian posted:

lol

https://twitter.com/jinpayn/status/1179994885895536640

it's amazing how much of a self-fulfilling prophecy Joker has become because a bunch of checkmark libs threw the same bitch fit about the trailer six months ago. ironically, they've made viewing it less safe

# ¿ Oct 4, 2019 22:00

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reading Felix Biederman's review of Joker confirmed the thought i've been having for months about it: it's a profoundly OK movie that won't be remembered after Thanksgiving. you know, the same thing that happened with Wonder Woman and Ghostbusters 2016 before it

Some Guy TT posted:

hilariously this kind of pandering never actually works the at best chinese viewers just ignore it and at worst the obvious toadying just results in the movies being mercilessly mocked all over the chinese internet

i've been wondering for a while if the chinese moviegoing public actually enjoyed the kind of obvious pandering Hollywood puts in their movies. another example is The Emoji Movie taking place in WeChat

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 14:24

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Farm Frenzy posted:

the gradual rising consciousness of how lovely all the nolan batman movies actually were makes me happy

i do understand why they were well-regarded at the time: they were a breath of fresh air after the last two Batman movies that were gaudy, over-the-top embarrassments. now everyone knows that Nolan wasn't the first person to do a reimagining of Batman and the Joker, and he wasn't even all that great at it

Serf posted:

probably a combination of astroturfing and media libs with incel hot takes. ofc now it seems like they were doing that to distract from the class war imagery in the movie

it definitely started with Twitter checkies uniformly determining that Joker was a movie for incels six months ago when they saw the trailer, at least

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 15:19

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CharlestheHammer posted:

people talk about black panther a lot here. but in like the Phil greaves way

i still hear and see references to Wakanda, but all of the other movies that Farm Frenzy mentioned have disappeared into the aether because they were, at best, serviceable movies without anything that made them stand out

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 15:57

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am i just being jaded towards modern-day pop culture, or are modern-day blockbusters even less subtle than ever when it comes to messaging, particularly of the pro-capitalist/neoliberal variety?

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 16:26

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i wouldn't read too much into Todd Philips's comments about people gnashing their teeth about Joker as being "far left." it's still pretty common for people to conflate radical-sounding words with actual radical beliefs, which checkies tend to not have

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 16:57

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i wanna say that nobody's gonna remember Joker in a month except for comic book nerds so who cares, but that's a group that includes this forum, so go nuts

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 20:08

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Forceholy posted:

What did you guys think about the South Park episode about this very subject? I thought it was OK, but Parker and Stone are libertarians who are rich enough to not face reprocussions. The episode did get South Park "banned" in China, but it's not like they will give a poo poo.

who gives a poo poo about South Park anymore? it's almost exclusively relied on topical humor for years now. the political bent of such episodes has been discussed to death, so i won't bother doing that. instead i'll talk about it from a comedy angle- those episodes are destined to age terribly, and many of them already have. for a show that famously trashed Family Guy, it shares the same kind of winking and nudging "reference as the joke" humor that assumes that you get the joke

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 15:39

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MasterSitsu posted:

Basically this but the episode is pretty good anyways and good on them for taking one for the team, I guess. I will say watching South Park reckon with its past over the last couple years has been interesting to me if nothing else.

sorry if it felt like that post was targeting you, i didn't mean to do that. it just feels like South Park isn't in the general public consciousness anymore

Farm Frenzy posted:

south park is the only comedy series ive seen that got really poo poo and then actually turned it around and got a little better

i heard that the first season that had a season-wide arc was good, but it reverted to trash in short order

Freaking Crumbum posted:

i'm loving stunned that both the simpsons, family guy and south park are still being aired with regular new seasons. i cannot fathom the audience for these ancient rear end shows that all had their peak decades ago yet will apparently exist in syndication in perpetuity until the eventual heat death of the universe.

in addition to the answer you gave, at least with South Park it's cheap to make, so cheap that the creators can just crank out an episode the week before it airs. then again, low cost of production and creators that wanted to keep going until they got bored didn't save Aqua Teen Hunger Force

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 18:43

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Percelus posted:

southpark peaked with the dawson creek trapper keeper episode and all of their hot takes on current events are total garbage ranging from climate change denial, cheerleading for the iraq war, cheerleading for prosecution of whistleblowers, the list goes on

i hear that they've recently toned down with putting out a lot of the political perspective episodes, is that true? if nothing else, we have Scott Tenorman and Faith Plus One

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 14:14

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the tragedy of Trey and Matt is that they can be really funny when they want to, but they'd rather preach. kind of like a lot of mainstream comedy in general, except for their different politics

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 14:31

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Echo Chamber posted:

I still kind of view Trey and Matt as a lesser evil than Seth MacFarlane.

Trey & Matt pioneered "message first, laughs second" comedy, while MacFarlene did the same with "reference as the joke" comedy. both are essential parts of bad mainstream comedy today

so they're both terrible

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 21:07

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Percelus posted:

dennis miller was the big groundbreaker on reference as a joke, macfarlane just did it with cartoons and pop culture instead of poo poo people slept through in highschool history class

dennis miller also didn't have anywhere near the cultural staying power of macfarlene, who has been a barnacle on Fox's hull for almost two decades (not including the original run and cancellation years of Family Guy)

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 21:23

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Bro Dad posted:

the book of mormon is loving amazing, go see it if its playing near you

i saw Phantom of the Opera last weekend, it's a classic of musical theater

# ¿ Oct 11, 2019 13:45

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MizPiz posted:

Hot take: The left's unwillingness to embrace nu-metal is among the strongest pieces of evidence that they care more about personal image than actually working for structural change.

i'm convinced that a big reason why nu-metal was popular was that middle-school aged boys in the late '90s wanted an alternative to boy bands. i should know, i was one of them

also this nu-metal revisionism is stupid because it's a godawful music genre. it belongs in the dumpster of history

KomradeX posted:

So Scorsese is doubling down in his correct opinion about Marvel movies and all the nerds ste even madder

what gets me about the people who are mad about Scorsese talking poo poo about comic book movies is that a lot of them aren't defending them as dumb, fun popcorn munchers, but as important cinematic and cultural touchstones. some of them include twitter checkies

it's ok to not conflate "i like Thing" with "i think Thing is important," few know this

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 14:12

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KomradeX posted:

That's what gets me, is I've asked a few people if they really think any of the Marvel movies come even close to being able to look into the eye of Goodfellas, Casino, or Raging Bull. And they always say it's an unfair comparison, which is exactly what Scorcese is saying. Witch you would think they'd realize, but no. So I've just started comparing them to other great pop culture movies. Like are any I'd the Marvel movies as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark, or what I think might be the best Marvel movie Winter Solider, is even close to being a better super spy movie than Goldeneye?

i haven't watched any of the MCU movies, and i've noticed that nobody really mentions any standout moments or lines in them aside from Thanos memes. that's a big sign of mediocrity. it's telling that the only Marvel movie people have regularly referred to a month after it left theaters was Black Panther, and only because it's Hotep Potter

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 14:55

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CharlestheHammer posted:

Hell Harry Potter doesn�t have anything like that and it�s still going strong despite how hard Rowling is trying to kill it

Harry Potter has a ton of commonly known references and it's not just because checkmark libs use it as one of their three things that they refer to. the Hogwarts houses, the terminology, Voldemort, just to name three. nobody's putting Avengers references in their dating bios, and if they are, i haven't seen them

Serf posted:

i like the marvel movies well enough and i think there's plenty of memorable stuff from them, but there's just too loving much. there's an assload of movies and they're putting them out too fast, so by the time you've seen one, there's another one coming up. they put the loving trailer for at least 2 more movies in the credits of the one you're seeing in the theater. and now i'd say its pretty well saturated beyond the ability to hold your interest. i watched the new spider-man movie a few days ago and all i remember is that gyllenhall is hot

that's a good point. i'm not sure whether that was an intended consequence of streaming services, but it's one that creators and especially distributors are taking full advantage of. as for El Camino, i'm not watching it because i don't give a poo poo about what happens after Breaking Bad

Plank Walker posted:

mcu movies are basically let's plays of video games that only the director is allowed to play

it's more like one of those video games that have restrictions on how to stream because the creator (Disney) is a dick

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 16:15

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i need to dig up that long twitter thread of the guy who watched all the videos of Woodstock 99 performances, it's a trip

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 16:59

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in a group chat, i asked why The Simpsons aren't anywhere near the universally relatable '90s cultural touchstone today while Friends, of all shows, is. somebody answered and i think he hit the nail on the head: it was a show that was very late to the streaming game, and by the time it had its own section on FX streaming (coming soon Disney+ where it probably won't be promoted very much because gently caress you), Friends had been on Netflix for years

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 21:37

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this moment of cinema reminds me of the late '60s, when everything big was trying to capitalize on It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World and the "way too many movie stars" comedy formula. that ended poorly for Hollywood and they gave the keys to directors like Coppolla, Spielberg, and Scorsese

but at the same time, it's different because everyone who makes a mildly successful movie is tapped to make a Marvel movie that's announced years in advance, and now Hollywood doesn't have to rely entirely on the domestic market for a movie to be a success. the only way the cycle will break is if more directors and writers put their foot down. it's happened to some degree but there's a ways to go

# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 16:40

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the spy genre in general is a Cold War relic and James Bond should have ended after Goldeneye

# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 23:03

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https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185988194111836160
https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1185996613883486208

i disagree with the last tweet because the MCU defense force isn't saying "let people enjoy things." hell, that's what they like to say to other people as a way to shut down debate. the way i see it, they're saying some combination of "actually this ~~children's cartoon~~ comic book movie has important themes that only adults can get" and sweeping generalizations about how they're white male movies, so the very diverse comic book movies are better by default

first tweet is good though

# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 14:31

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Serf posted:

https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1187000201128615936?s=20

soon it will be racist to not like marvel movies

Ghostbusters 2016 was the defining movie of this decade because it was the first to weaponize this narrative

# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 01:58

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i saw Jojo Rabbit on saturday, it owns. it's like a WW2 period drama mixed with Mel Brooks-esque mockery of Nazis

# ¿ Oct 30, 2019 02:24

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Forceholy posted:

I didn't see that one coming. Shame since he associates with Eric Andre, who is really Leftist.

what shocks me is Hannibal talked about being a Chicago landlord on a podcast episode over two years ago and nobody bothered to dig up the relevant information until he wanted people to donate to an Illinois landlord lobbying group

i listened to that clip, and it is baaaaaad. as someone who lived in a building owned by a guy who was big into Airbnb scams, i will do my best to be the first one to put Hannibal against the wall

# ¿ Nov 1, 2019 01:48

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Your Gay Uncle posted:

He�s always been a great actor, it�s just with Twighlight he had nothing to work with.

nah, he did his damnedest to ham it up in the last one or two movies

# ¿ Nov 6, 2019 02:56

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is Watchmen gonna be the next "cultural event" show for HBO now that GoT is finished and mostly forgotten about?

# ¿ Nov 8, 2019 05:22

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these two tweets aren't 100% related to this talk about "consumerism as identity," but it's close enough to be relevant
https://twitter.com/BUSSCRO/status/1211320791561900033

tylersayten posted:

Commodity fetishism is only going to increasingly become more extreme and bizarre as people become more and more alienated by capitalism, yes.

if people are so alienated by capitalism then one would think that they'll eventually become more radicalized against it, instead of playing by its rules and doing what it wants more and more with each passing year. perhaps millennials aren't as idealistic and progressive as we're made out to be

i can say with more certainty that our culture in these formative adult years was lamer than that of gen x and boomers

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 01:46

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Culture is shaped by the purse strings, and the vast majority of what's on offer comes primarily from institutional nepotism cases who grew up indoctrinated with bourgeois values

i think it's safe to say that the kind of people who have the access to make culture is a far smaller group than it was before. the Beatles and Elvis, to name a couple, came from more humble backgrounds. you just don't see that much anymore because it's become a leisure activity for the wealthy and well-connected, kind of like how it's been in most of history outside of the post-WWII era

Daisy Ridley comes from a wealthy family and went to a prestigious acting school, Lena Dunham's parents were both established in the art world, Robin Thicke's dad was an actor (he was also babysat by Wayne Gretzky), Lana del Rey's dad is a music executive, Taylor Swift's dad is some finance guy with music industry connections... that's just off the top of my head and there are many other examples

lovely society makes lovely culture

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 03:23

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this entire shitstorm with the new trilogy makes me so, so glad that i didn't really care too much about Star Wars in general growing up. i watched the first six movies solely because everyone else was

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 03:39

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StashAugustine posted:

I came to this from the opposite perspective where I got super into all the bullshit when I was a kid and am thus OK mentally writing out the huge chunks of it that suck

i should also mention that the only new Star Wars movie i saw was Rogue One, and that was because i went there with my sister and her (now ex) fiancee. didn't really wanna watch the rest

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 04:54

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Dr. Killjoy posted:

once upon a time in Hollywood

it good

I like how Pitt�s character took every externality for DiCaprio�s poor decisions, and on a clear class basis

curious why liberals disliked the film

american wokelibs view the world the same way as american fascists: depiction of thing = endorsement of thing

# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 20:41

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 21:42

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

we could've had a good discussion about CATS but only we brave few had the courage to witness it for ourselves

i watched it with my gf and there were a bunch of people in the theater who were very obviously high. as far as i'm concerned, if you weren't a fan of the Broadway play, going there under the influence of weed, acid, or shrooms is the only way to watch

i thought it started out hilariously bad but it got pretty boring after the fat cat's musical number

# ¿ Jan 3, 2020 02:37

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