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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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I am almost caught up on all the new Star Wars crap, missing only the Solo thing and the new thing. So far Rogue One is my favorite because by the end all the characters I have grown to hate are killed on screen. Good payoff.

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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Knives Out is the best time I've had at the theater since The Lighthouse and it was arguably a better time. Lighthouse was good, but Knives Out got the whole *jazz hands*hollywood*jazz hands* razzmatazz thing down pat.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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so I am sick as a bastard and my wife works for a university so we are both off right now and I was thinking of renting some noir movies. Would Bad Day At Black Rock be a good pairing for Double Indemnity?

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Grevling posted:

I want to go see Cats as part of the irony watcher demographic, the public deserves more films like this.

Same!

Also, and this isn't getting enough attention, it's under two hours long. Usually bombastic middlebrow trash shoots for respectability by diluting 1.5 hours of fun into 2.5-3 hours of tedium. I'm not used to having my time respected by this sort of movie.

Or it means the production was so cursed that they couldn't even cobble together enough usable footage to hit the desired length. Either way, I'm looking forward to having time to see it, the Zoo Lights, and get dinner this Saturday.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Son of Thunderbeast posted:

We can have CATS chat for as long as we need

Cats is one of the few big flamboyant cultural products that every group has agreed is ok to mock horribly for every decade of my life. What I mean by this is that it never turned out to be special to any disenfranchised group and/or come to represent some kind of shared experience that the in group can’t personally relate to, and when the meaning becomes clear, easy humor two pointers at its expense are off the table unless you want to side with the baddies. No one has ever even come out to declaim it’s virtue as a musical, I assume because the New York tourists that bankrolled its existence were all murdered in botched muggings shortly after leaving the theater.

It has existed in a pure joke state for at least thirty years, until it stopped continuously touring a while ago, at which point it faded.

BUT THEN Hollywood made a 100 million dollar investment in me being able to make a sneering low effort reference from my own youth that young people can understand without also assuming I’m a nazi. We love to see it, folks!

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Farm Frenzy posted:

...something thats just really straightforward genre poo poo instead of fully post-postmodern

I think that's what I liked about The Mandalorian too. It's been bugging me that I couldn't place what it was that made it scratch a specific itch, thanks for putting it into words!

It's a really competently made piece of entertainment whose producers looked at what they had to work with, weighed "make a solid down the middle product" in one hand, weighed "go Dan Harmon with a deconstruction of what Star Wars and an action serials can be" and realized Disney wouldn't have hired them in the first place if they were clever, so they went for the prior and killed it.

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Jan 11, 2009

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mysterious frankie posted:

I think that's what I liked about The Mandalorian too. It's been bugging me that I couldn't place what it was that made it scratch a specific itch, thanks for putting it into words!

It's a really competently made piece of entertainment whose producers looked at what they had to work with, weighed "make a solid down the middle product" in one hand, weighed "go Dan Harmon with a deconstruction of what Star Wars and an action serials can be" and realized Disney wouldn't have hired them in the first place if they were clever, so they went for the prior and killed it.

MICKEY: *slaps your face lightly with a cupped hand* huh huh kid, you're not smart & you don't make waves, huh huh. that might bother other executives, and that's why they come to me, crawling on their hands and knees, begging me for just a glimpse of my success, huh huh. because I know what the people want. they want steady, droning mediocrity huh huh. something that reminds them of their own life, but with more pew-pews and princesses. I know that, even if the people don't, huh huh, and I make it happen for them. by hiring workmanlike little cretins like you to make workmanlike, cretinous globs of light and sound so existentially uniform that they might as well be squeezed from a tube you'd find at the grocery, right between the deviled ham and tinned goldurn wieners... huh huh.

Lost my train of thought there... anyways, you're on the space guy project. What's it called, Alfonse?

ALFONSE: *opens folder and scans first page before leaning in to speak from behind Micky into his giant right ear* The Mandalorian, sir.

MICKEY: huh huh, right right. Mandalorian. Lasers, helmets, one of those green hairless rat men things. Farmers frickin' pate. Anyways, it's your baby now. Try not to drown it, huh huh

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Farm Frenzy posted:

after mandalorian were guaranteed a few more years of weird flailing from disney trying to make EU kinda stuff

A Disney European Union, you say?

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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But don’t you want to stay to see which of the remaining super white countries turns into the deranged but tragic villain driven to madness by too many brown refugees eating all their licorice bream, or whatever?

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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While not European myself I enjoy my licorice bream in the traditional fashion; perched upon a substrate of stiffened bechamel and covered in capers.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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We’re waiting to see CATS! now and so far the majority of the audience is confused looking pairs of visibly stoned young scruffy white men, and a yuppie bird lady lady with her two girls. Should be a trip.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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I showed up with a girl so I’m the coolest guy here, hell yeah

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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:c00l:

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Jan 11, 2009

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foobardog posted:

Oh yeah, the marketers definitely had no idea who to market Cats to, all the trailers were for kids movies, with Little Women thrown in for the mothers I guess.

Which, I'm pretty sure kids aren't going to want to see Cats. Like my expected audience is middle school theatre kids and they'll consider themselves too "old" to see Trolls but this time it's Bring It On. They'd be more likely to see Little Women.

But yeah the audience seemed to actually be adults looking to watch a trainwreck, and it doesn't really scratch that itch well, sadly.

(The Pixar movie about a road trip in a fantasy world but modern seems fun. But like everything else that had a trailer, I'd only choose to watch it if like I was babysitting a kid.)

We are at, poo poo you not, minute 22 of previews and they are extremely all over the place, yeah. Extremely swoony and dramatic Doolittle preview ending, gotta dive back in.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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This movie perfectly encapsulates the flaws inherent in Post Horny Theory and accidentally makes a strong argument for return to a hardline traditionalist horny ideology.

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Jan 11, 2009

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mysterious frankie posted:

This movie perfectly encapsulates the flaws inherent in Post Horny Theory and accidentally makes a strong argument for return to a hardline traditionalist horny ideology.

Aaaaand we’re out. Movie was supposed to start at 11:50am, previews ended at 12:25pm I checked my phone at 12:38, expecting maybe forty minutes to have passed, showed my wife and she was like, I can’t be here for another hour and a half. The people who said it’s not fun weird were spot on. Definitely something that’s funnier to think about existing than to actually see in person.

We saw roughly three times a much preview material as movie. Basically paid $26 to see ads. Learn from my mistakes; this horny place is not a place of honor.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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My Facebook review goes like:

"CATS! was not good. It was also not bad in a way that was entertaining. It was like, imagine some of that black and white concentration camp footage from WW2, but as the camera pans over the unsettling tableau you see that every prisoner is Budd Dwyer, blowing his brains out.

If you wanted to see it in theaters for yuks, do not. It's only notionally funny. If you've thought about it existing and said to yourself, self, that sounds like a humorous mistake in the making, then you have extracted maximum humor from it."

No rating because I literally watched thirteen minutes of it before fleeing the theater.

E: And yeah I was stone cold steve sober while watching it, but if you say I didn't get it because I wasn't high at the time then that makes it the devil sticks of cinema. A trifling mistake made en route to oblivion, best forgotten by its survivors.

mysterious frankie has issued a correction as of 21:34 on Dec 28, 2019

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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foobardog posted:

And yet, in the end, you paid money for it, so you are leading the invisible hand of the free market to make more. Adam Smith is pleased.

If your little jape at my expense gets me a six hour probation for encouraging capitalism, foobardog, I'm gonna *checks notes, continues checking notes, flips between pages of notes with a bemused look, slowly swivels chair so that my back is to you, continues checking notes while making happy little humming sounds and rocking gently back and forth*

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Freaking Crumbum posted:

my wife hates previews with a passion and now that youtube exists and they're entirely superfluous, we know we can show up 15-30 minutes late for any given movie and miss nothing.

not sure if this is happening everywhere, but all the theaters here also show pre-preview-previews now, before the actual previews, where you get some mishmash of local advertising, almost-previews for different movies via brief cast interviews, and ads from coca-cola about empowering youth filmmakers or some bullshit.

the regal today had pre pre previews (masquerading as a special show before the movie that serves up a combination of product ads, third string movie and tv ads and very tough quizzes with questions like "this big mouthed water hazard served as the titular terror in stephen spielbergs 1975 suspense film jaws. was it: a: a shark b: a robot c: a wolf d:academy award winner richard dreyfuss. stay tuned after the break for the answer!") pre previews that are theater ads bought by the community, previews, then some post preview ads.

I usually go to the music box or this little place by loyola the few times I don't stream these days and was absolutely unprepared for the completely buckwild waste of time and money the big chain theaters continue to pokevolve into. wait a few more years to come back and there'll be an ad ticker running along the four hour remake of what is to become the first part in the new cocoon expanded universe.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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bows also kinda speak to having a cleverness and direct contact to natural ways, which is a designation ladies stereotypically get. men master\create technological marvels to survive; women, when capable, are naturally magical and haughty, but are ultimately taught to respect men through the latter's outstripping, indefatigable determination and ingenuity.

in this model women and men are basically like humans and elves in the lord of rings books.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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dwarves and wizards are obviously nerds, as is proven in neal stephenson's masterwork ready player one:origins

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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MonsieurChoc posted:

Hey come on Stephenson doesn't deserve that kind of insult.

I still love the Baroque Cycle dammit.

Yeah I was just trying to be clever without putting in much effort. I’ll cop to it.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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George W took up painting and Obama now binges lovely tv and movies. We Americans have the cutest widdle retired mass murderer admins.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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the description mentioning Girl Crimez made me remember that THE KITCHEN exists and the previews made it look like it took very serious. I bet it's pretty bad, but is it funny? I've been burned by CATS! recently.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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docbeard posted:

Four episodes into The New Adventures Of Gerald The Witchyman and I'm enjoying it but I suspect it's completely impenetrable to anyone not already familiar with the source material.

My wife was delighted that cavill got to play his best video game friend on tv, but otherwise thought it was a syfy level program several rungs of quality below Happy!

Which I was fine with. The woman’s bad taste appreciation sensors are more finely tuned and can only derive badfun from Riverdale, et al, where as I still like


Serf posted:

the witcher felt like an attempt to recapture the feel of xena, and it succeeded. there's this dark fantasy world but everything feels the right amount of cheesy for it to be fun instead of overserious

cavill is great, he's too pretty for the role but he clearly understands what makes the character fun and plays to it very well

This

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Alhazred posted:

She's right though.

Oh yeah def. I think so too. But that can be fun if you already like that stuff.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Percelus posted:

they should make a movie about a guy who a new kind of human that has special powers and his are regeneration and claws and so the military makes him into a super soldier by fusing metal to his skeleton but somehow he dies anyway and makes a deal with the devil to become a hellspawn and come back giving him even more powers but then gets dosed with radiation turning him into a massive muscle bound monster man too then an alien creature comes and fuses with him so he also has alien powers

also he adopts a baby yoda that he has to take care of

Your Mom: the motion picture

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Gottem, guys

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

it might not be on there anymore but I watched it on Netflix, so there's that :shrug:

There was a season 2 on syfy. I dunno if it ever came to Netflix.

When I saw season one I was astounded it was a product of that channel. The best stuff they’ve ever done up until then was Channel Zero and, gloss aside, those shows are powerfully mediocre unless you have the right kind of eyes to see them.

Also the last season was amazing house porn for a couple who lives now, and will probably forever live, in lovely overpriced apartments.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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I watched Double Indemnity for the first time last weekend and the only thing I got out of it was that Spanish colonials in LA once went for $20k then I blacked out and according to my wife started strangling one of the couch cushions.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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He better not be saying that this is the anniversary of the kiss because I’ve wanted more Mission Hillfor a long, long time

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Seeing people coming out the other side of their amigara fault holes of defending anime is really trippy

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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That’s not even a knock on liking anime. I’m like this close to watching My Hero Academia because of the constant commercial assault on Adult Swim while I was in that hotel last week. I’m saying a lot of you folk are now wailing rhetorical spaghetti monsters and I love it.

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Jan 11, 2009

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Apparently the first season is neat but it kinda ends up reverting to formula, I'm guessing they ran out of original ideas

There was this super big block of shows they were advertising and I was thinking each one looked pretty entertaining. Nothing life changing but it seemed like a bunch of anime mandalorians, is just trying to have fun.

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Jan 11, 2009

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Prince Myshkin posted:

Finally watched Joker and anyone who called this a leftist movie — whatever the gently caress that means — is a drooling moron. It tells us the only people who want to wage class war on the rich are murderous psychopaths, similar to what The Dark Knight Rises did after Occupy.

Yeah. It’s a nervous look at the street from the penthouse floor. Still fun tho.

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Jan 11, 2009

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Skellybones posted:

It's about how Arthur has zero class consciousness and just fucks around doing his own thing reacting to what more powerful people do to him. The only evil people with agency are the rich.

Kinda agree, but adding nuance.

Arthur has one of two embarrassments essential to the American character- that of ideological insight into ones own condition (the other is talking about money and I’d argue it’s even stronger than fear of ideology because we still aren’t comfortable beating our friends and family up on Facebook about it)- and the movie is a kind of Bildungsroman about him arranging his lived experiences into a worldview that endows him the ability to act (albeit it while hiding his belief system behind claims even to himself about being non political, so strong is the embarrassment over awareness that there are classes or people and his position in the losing one- arguably more than any mental illness- furnishes his misery and desire to revolt) as an influential public figure. Having class consciousness while attempting to hide class consciousness is what forms the end product of his character, and what makes him the perfect activator of the unrest simmering in the minds of a the similarly ideology shy people of Gotham.

Movie stumbles because it’s written and directed by rich guys in Hollywood who think they’re different than all those other rich guys because they’re artists and they have hurt feelings that all these common people are starting to no longer cut them a break. Like, even a struggling new member in the Hollywood system has an astoundingly superior standard of living than someone in one of these spooky methed out areas of New Mexico, working class areas of Chicago (to say nothing of the slums), most of Ohio, etc and it shows in how the best way they could imagine to examine the situation at hand was to remake Taxi Driver, but comic books. Their insight of the world doesn’t extend past the backlot and top ten movie lists, but they think they’ve suffered or are suffering enough to “get” what’s happening.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Also next weekend I have the option the see Uncut Gems or Parasite in theater this weekend. Assuming I’ll see both eventually, which one is the better choice?

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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I also think it’s pretty telling that when choosing a preexisting setting to tell their story about an awakening albeit malformed ideological awareness of class disparity, they picked the one that luridly depicts the poor and mentally ill the same way Lovecraft did the... well, everyone.

That and making Bruce/Batman’s own origin story the product of a poverty induced riot, seeing as how he’d later going on to establish relative peace in the city with a fear-and-beatings campaign on the underclass.

It’s somethin all right.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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I also watched some other movies this weekend that weren’t super good

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TropicalCoke posted:

1917 was ok. felt like a fairy tale set in WW1. weird how all the germans were evil regardless of context

All Germans were bad until General MacArthur personally reclaimed the spear of destiny from Hitler, at which point his spell was broken and all Germans became good again.

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