Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

And Bear and The Dragon kicks off after an abortion in China kills a catholic priest is killed in an abortion because of China's one child rule. China than invades Russia for resources where they get owned NY a single old Russian sniper and than Patriot Missiles shoot down Chinese ICBMs so DC doesn't get nuked

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Some Guy TT posted:

absolutely no one has any idea how the one child rule in china works and the internet has not improved their competency in trying to look it up instead of making assumptions based on how it appears in other pop culture

Im just describing what was in the drat book

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I just can't wait to see of that a Rainbow Six movie outs going ro keep with the plot about all the millionaire environmentalist hippies weaponizing Ebola to create a mass population die off to prevent global warming

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Farm Frenzy posted:

lets talk about rainbow six patriots, a game so overloaded with obama era lib nonsense that it got cancelled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCQysh2Ci0c

Oh my God yes, the OWS are terrorists game that they planned. Good thing Ubisoft doesn't make political loving games!

God I tender how disgusted I was when this was announced.

And it's kind of weird how almost no one talks about how extremely fascist the very concept of The Division is. There was a bit of talk about it around the release of one, but even Jim Sterling's talk of how 2 is political kind of just stalled at the if you were a gun owner you survived. And no one really hammers home the whole government extrajudicially murdering Americans to "establish order" is extremely political, the point of the game, and incredibly fascist

KomradeX has issued a correction as of 23:50 on Sep 16, 2019

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Setting all the political stuff aside, absolutely nothing about the scenario in that demo makes a single bit of loving sense. Why is Rainbow Six waiting for terrorists from the top of the Brooklyn Bridge? Why are terrorists fighting on the bridge when their goal is Times Square? They could've just driven there. There's no sane reason that there would be a shootout on the bridge, except as a weak excuse for a video game setpiece. If Manhattan was already in chaos, there wouldn't be tons of people on that bridge trying to get in and causing the traffic jam.

Cause they're super smart shootymans who will show those c nasty dumb left wingers whos boss

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Some Guy TT posted:

which game was it where in the opening chapter youre a cia agent helping some terrorist mastermind blow up a russian airport

i remember coverage of that being pretty nuts because the gaming press was gushing about the deep moral ambiguity of the situation

i wanna say this was around the time that zero dark thirty came out because it felt like they were just copying the same extremely dumb talking points about why that movie was brilliant too

Modern Warfare 2 has you shoot up a Russian airport.

Modern Warfare 3 has Russia invade the US and Western Europe and minted aren't launched , those hackers got real chuddy real quick.

Tough I don't think anything tops Black Ops 2 when the Mujahedeen subdue protagonist and leave Holm buried up ro hiya neck on sand because even though they're fighting the USSR, America has always been the real enemy has always been America

Jump to 18 mintues in

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I mostly quit playing Call of Duty after the original Modern Warfare. I love how the plot in Black Ops 2 involves a globe spanning conspiracy by a Nicaraguan drug lord to form a private army to destroy the United States. And it reaches all the way to the Mujahideen?

I stopped playing COD after Black Ops, I pirated 2 to see the single player and after this cut scene I quit and uninstalled it and haven't looked back. Three World War 2 one head new intrigues but I heard it wasn't good

Black Ops 2 is so disgusting, the first level has you fighting with the UNITA rebels in Angola and routing the MPLA.

There's almost the idea that should just spring that all of the bad things that happen on the hanger come from the US doing poo poo in places it has no business, but you have ro squint to maybe get that because everything its played so straight

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Didn't MacArthur want to just go full hog wild war atrocities and start nuking China to "liberate it" from Communism since, well we're at the border anyway

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Jenny Agutter posted:

just saw an ad for zombieland 2 and it reminded me that zombieland is classist trash

Would you mind explaining? I recall liking the movie when I watched it several years ago, but just a very standard zombie movie set up.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Jenny Agutter posted:

yeah it's been a while for me too but as I recall all the zombies are people who ate gas station food (poor) or couldn't make it like the main character by being to slow, too dumb, too unwilling to shoot someone in the head or whatever I.e. losers in a meritocratic system. then the smug protagonists gleefully mow zombies down with luxury SUVs, it all struck me as pretty gross

Yeah, thinking it like that I can see that angle, though it really gets muddled with things like the zombie survival guide that was popular at the time. But yeah that reeks a lot of Obama era poo poo.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

it’s one thing to have an abstract idea of nuking China, and another thing to actually see the kind of absolute deprivation people were reduced to by the US firebombing campaign on Korea.

I don't know, MacArthur was a racist monster so I wouldn't mind a source on this because I just have such a hard time thinking he had arbut shred of humanity.

KomradeX has issued a correction as of 13:37 on Sep 17, 2019

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/21/we-burned-down-every-town-in-north-korea/

how about his own testimony to congress?


McCarthur disputed that he recommended using nukes on China, but he did secretly promise allied governments that he'd carry the war into Communist China to try and take out Mao's government. That's why he was sacked by Truman.

Hmm, either he was lying to Congress or he had more humanity than I gave him credit for

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

SNL sucks, but gently caress that chud and gently caress Lorne Michaels

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I really think the Bush and Obama years have really given comedians an inflated sense of the "worth of comedy" and they need to shut the gently caress up about "PC Culture ruining comedy" one heard that line my whole life. The only thinking ruining comedy is the self important view of it and the dignation that comedy millionaires get when their bits from 2004 haven't aged well.


Though a comedy union is a good idea, they are majorly exploited by club owners, especially the unsuccessful ones, or the guys that will never hit it big

KomradeX has issued a correction as of 16:54 on Sep 18, 2019

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:

i can get on board with this. also: comedy is being viewed from the same lens as it was after Jon Stewart went on Crossfire in 2004. back then it worked because we were in a post-9/11 society where people were too afraid to say anything contrary to the George W Bush line, so it was a breath of fresh air to see a smartass tell pundits that they're full of poo poo. it's brutally obvious that it hasn't worked in a while

And they'll never let that go of that because Jon Stewart shaming Crossfire off the air was the high water mark of Stand up Comedy. I actually think the era of stand up comedy is over, not because of "PC culture liberals" but just the amount of ways people can get comedy, from YouTube to podcasts I thunk is changing it. Hell stand up comedy as it is now is little more than an off shoot of part of a Vaudeville show that started to come into its own in the 1950s and didn't hit big until the Boom years of the 1980s and 90s. The "profession" is either going to die out or just get reabsorbed into being part of other entertainment

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:

i'd argue that's kind of happened to some extent. what is late night tv if not a bunch of people trying (and failing) to imitate prime Jon Stewart?

It's definitely well on the way ro happening but I think moving forward having a or being just a stand up guy will be less and less important

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Its how you know liberals wrote the show, it has a likable Republican in it

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

As an adult I absolutely love Winston. But as a kids he didn't do much. Mostly because they hosed the character over after Eddie Murphy didn't get the part or passed on it for some reason. So they like halved his screen time.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I really liked Robin in season 3. I did not care for Lucas's little sister being a Black Republican, under Reagan.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

So to go back to Tom Clancy I read this when looking up The Sum of All Fears


Wikipedia posted:

Clancy served as executive producer on the film, and regarding the changes from his book, jokingly introduced himself in the commentary track on the DVD release as “the author of the book that he [director Phil Alden Robinson, who is present with Clancy] ignored”. Nevertheless, he complained about technical inaccuracies throughout the film in the commentary.

He must have been just a completley insufferable chud

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:

this article is a better negative review of Avengers: Endgame than Sam Kriss's blathering

what blows my mind is that critics universally praised this poo poo. not as a fun popcorn muncher, but as a good example of cinema. even if you believe that hollywood has always been poo poo and movie critics have always praised the worst slop that they're told to like, this is completely unprecedented. Endgame and every other superhero movie would have been considered mindless wastes of time not long ago

Wait isn't Jacobite some fash adjacent anti-Jacobin?

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

iirc "capeshit" is an alt right pejorative for superhero movies, because they're all produced by Jews of course

So where does the good part of their film criticism come in?

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Probably Magic posted:

Gonna make the incredibly LF argument that hand-drawn animation is more ideologically pure than CGI since it does not intend for any kind of realism the way digital does and therefore does not create a substitute reality of which to escape and not engage with capitalism in. Nah, not really, but CGI is so rigid and I'm so pissed that it's become the de facto choice of animation in the West. It's a big reason I like anime even though most of it is the same formula over and over with very little surprise to it or just outright dumb fetish poo poo. But drat does it move better in motion if it has enough budget than the latest Pixar crap.

I'm not sure what's worse the low budget CGI cartoons, or those cheap flash looking cartoons from the mid 2000s.

Though I think the CGI worked for Clone Wars, Rebels and Resistance

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Doesn't Disney also intentionally create an artificial scarcity for its original properties? They'd only issue limited prints of animated movies for a year or two, then they'd "go back in the vault" just to keep up an ambient market demand.

Yes, that's how Disney home releases worked, until their plan for Disney+ came out cause I guess they realized people will pay them continually for that content instead of once every format change

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Percelus posted:

i think disney and sony reaching an agreement to keep spiderman in the mcu is more important to most americans than whatever dumbshit is going on with trump and ukraine

The nerds sectors poc the internet are testing this in the way the Donuts would if Trump ever actually got impeached. The difference being that since the beginning you could tell this was going to end with a return to the status quo.

Even though nowe people are freaking out its for only 1 mcu movie and 1 stands alone and I guess renegotiation after that. But people are speculating this will be Spideys exit from the MCU

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

So it looks like HBO is getting ready to do a TV version of the DMZ comic from the late Bush/ early Obama years. And while im interested because I did enjoy the comic, I'm not sure how much of it stands the test of time being extremely steeped in the culture of the 2000s.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

It's something I've talked about a lot with people that you know is mostly seen in Batman, where the high crime of the 70s and 80s really informed, Batman, Daredevil, The Punisher, and well it doesn't ring true living in era with a near total collapse in the threat of street crime, not that you're local news would ever give you that impression. This was really blatant in Netflix's Daredevil where you have to assume that the events of The Avengers completely reversed the Gentrification of Hell's Kitchen. Hell you couldn't do The Dark Knight Returns unless it was a period piece because The Cold War looms in that story. But no one ever really wants to go in on that abs instead just focus on the spectacle

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Freaking Crumbum posted:

just gonna drop that there with no explanation huh?

is that like an actual, common thing outside niche fetlife communities? i've literally never heard anyone assert "it's 2019 heterozygous twins gently caress each other all the time now grandpa"

I think in Ultimates, Magnetos kids were loving each other

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

The Ultimates was complete dogshit except for Black Nick Fury and Miles Morales, everything else was bad.

My God all the cannibalism

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Echo Chamber posted:

I do like the "Millennial Socialism" reading of Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Tony Stark is a billionaire technocrat wizard driven by ego, might have vaguely altruistic motivations but has huge blind spots towards to the collateral damage he causes. Sort of like Zuckerberg or Gates or Oprah or Bloomberg or Musk or coastal shitlibs.

Vulture is essentially a upper-middle-class Trumper or Brexiteer who styles himself as working class and a victim of neoliberalism; but is really a tyrannical boss who lives comfortably as a rich weapons dealer, and profits off the same capitalist system as Stark.

And Peter Parker is the millennial who grew up with liberal aspirations and emulated people like Tony Stark; but undergoes a rift with liberalism by being more intimately exposed to the blind spots that Stark ignored while interacting with normal people. The film ends with him voluntarily rejecting membership to the Avengers to carve his own path and build socialism locally in his neighborhood.

Of course, Iron Man is a hero; so for this metaphor to work, we would have ignore the fact that Stark's real life counterparts are pretty much evil. Also, Peter Parker's broader arc in the MCU kind of fucks up this reading too.

I'm reminded of a popular thing that circulated around the nerd corners if the Facebook a few months ago and it was what Marvel character would vote Trump and isn't a villian? ABC's a lot of people got mad when people said Tony Stark

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

coathat posted:

Thank God they made an anime about playing german boardgames

What?

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

coathat posted:

https://www.funimation.com/shows/after-school-dice-club/?qid=

During a beautiful spring day in Kyoto, Aya and Miki follow the student council president Midori to a board game shop. The three students end up discovering a German board game that causes them to realize their shared passion for games. In the coming days, many more board games will be found and played!

Wonder if half the anime will about buying games buy never having the time Rio actually play them with people.

drat will anime just turn anything into a show

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I like the Marvel movies (as well as the Disney Star Wars movies) but Scorsese is 100 percent right about the Marvel movies. There's been what 23 of these movies over the past 11 years and like what are the quotable lines from these movies?

I would say the biggest problem with the Marvel (and Star Wars) movies it's the assembly line nature of then where the studio has mapped out most of the movie and doesn't give the director much freedom in the crafting of the movie and their willingness to reshoot shoot so much of their movies well makes a voice that isn't what the studio wants impossible and that's a huge detriment to these movies and to the medium as a whole

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Like unless you mean movies and poo poo which absolutely but there's plenty of dudes that get on books that the company doesn't give a poo poo about and go batshit with it and when the company realizes they're arguing for murdering Jeff bezos it's too late because the book is popular

What book did this?

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Farm Frenzy posted:

there were a few movies a few years ago that transparently pandered to chinese people like independence day 2 but i dont think they worked that well so they gave up

The Meg also fod this to a hilarious degree

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Remember when Batman had a villain in the early 2000s that was just a teenaged anarchist

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I stopped watching South Park after they did that anti WGA episode, about what a decade ago now? Tough I did buy their latest videogame because I heard it was a good tactics RPG

KomradeX has issued a correction as of 21:34 on Oct 9, 2019

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

So Scorsese is doubling down in his correct opinion about Marvel movies and all the nerds ste even madder

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I'm going to second that. Apostle and The Ritual are great. Midsommar was really good as well.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:


what gets me about the people who are mad about Scorsese talking poo poo about comic book movies is that a lot of them aren't defending them as dumb, fun popcorn munchers, but as important cinematic and cultural touchstones. some of them include twitter checkies

it's ok to not conflate "i like Thing" with "i think Thing is important," few know this

That's what gets me, is I've asked a few people if they really think any of the Marvel movies come even close to being able to look into the eye of Goodfellas, Casino, or Raging Bull. And they always say it's an unfair comparison, which is exactly what Scorcese is saying. Witch you would think they'd realize, but no. So I've just started comparing them to other great pop culture movies. Like are any I'd the Marvel movies as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark, or what I think might be the best Marvel movie Winter Solider, is even close to being a better super spy movie than Goldeneye?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:

i haven't watched any of the MCU movies, and i've noticed that nobody really mentions any standout moments or lines in them aside from Thanos memes. that's a big sign of mediocrity. it's telling that the only Marvel movie people have regularly referred to a month after it left theaters was Black Panther, and only because it's Hotep Potter

That's something else that these, besides that these 23+ movies have maybe 5 lines that get quoted between all of them, they're are no stand out set pieces like running from the boulder, ripping the heart out, choosing the wrong grail, the Death Star trench run, the Canal chase from T2, anything from Aliens or any of the other rich stones of well cinema that have been absorbed into culture. It's like the opposite of Avatar that made a billion dollars but left no pop cultural foot print, these Marvel movies make so much money and god knows their toys and other related things are everywhere but nothing from there movies themselves have entered into our cultural history like these other scenes have. Maybe the elevator fight from Winter Solider?

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply