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Hot take about Sorry to Bother you: it was good, but I was a bit disappointed after all the hype.
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All the hubbub about the Joker movie is just going to make more people interested in seeing it like always when movies get controversial. I certainly am interested which I probably wouldn't otherwise because I normally don't care about superhero movies. Leslie Lee III on the Struggle Session podcast actually claimed this is entirely on purpose which I'm not sure about but I wouldn't be surprised.
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It's not any less elitist to act as if it's somehow intrinsic to working class people to enjoy slop than to look down your nose at people for the media they like. Your consumer choices being what puts you in this or that social category is a bougie idea. Enjoy trash media but don't try to turn it into some kind of statement.
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ATP_Power posted:I would watch a hyper-stylized Silmarillion animated series. Oh man. Hell yeah.
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There's a pretty good write up here about JK Rowling not getting the death of the author and how her stories can be read as very reactionary. She probably doesn't get that either. https://samkriss.com/2016/09/13/jk-rowling-and-the-cauldron-of-discourse/ quote:Rowling’s politics didn’t create those of the Harry Potter fantasy – she is, remember, not an author but a fan. Instead, the books themselves distilled all the latent fascism out of the political mainstream, boiling the discourse into a heavy green slime, and she drank it all down in one gulp. People sometimes try to play a fun game in which they match the Hogwarts houses to political ideologies, usually ending up with a ranked list of what ideas they like and don’t like (Gryffindors are nice social liberals like me! Donald Trump is a Voldemort!). This is the wrong way of looking at it; any division into types must itself exemplify a particular type, so that the four together express a single Weltanschauung. Gryffindor are fascists according to fascist ideology itself, the ideal-ego of the fascist subject: a natural elite, strong, noble, honourable, yellow-haired, and respectful of difference, but only within strict limits. Slytherin is the same figure as she appears to the outside world, her negative aspects projected onto a despised other. Hufflepuff is the fascist’s ideal ordinary political subject, dull and stolid, but essentially good-hearted; Ravenclaw is the indeterminate other that resists assimilation into this conceptual matrix, the thing that constitutes the order through its exclusion, the figure that in the early twentieth century was identified with the body of the Jew.
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I want to go see Cats as part of the irony watcher demographic, the public deserves more films like this.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:06
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It is sort of right but it's in no way good or acceptable.
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Dec 30, 2019 20:24
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Probably Magic posted:It doesn't even make that much sense because actual mythological characters are used in comics, so they're... what exactly? Ancient Greeks also liked to tell stories and stage plays about their mythological characters with variations on their portrayals, for example the Oedipus Rex myth we know being Sophocles' version with older versions likely having Oedipus just become king and gently caress his mother without being bothered by it. It's not clear to what extent much these stories and plays had "religious" significance, and certainly they didn't in the way we think of religion. I think they're similar, they believed in indifferent gods and capricious forces of nature and we believe in the same just that it's free market forces and the hero figures reflect that. It could never be a perfect analogy of course but it's not completely off.
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Dec 30, 2019 20:46
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Except all of those stories and characters were "public domain." Anybody could've done their own take on them so long as they didn't violate the taboos too much. Nothing's stopping anyone today from having their own take either. They won't be asked or allowed to make a big-budget Hollywood movie about them, but neither would any ancient Athenian shmuck get to stage a play at the yearly festival, just for very different reasons.
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Dec 30, 2019 21:30
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Except superhero stuff doesn't get impacted by a communal oral tradition in the same way that mythology was. Fanfiction doesn't have cultural penetration. Yeah you're right, it was a dumb comparison to make.
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Norsemen was pretty funny to me because the way it is written makes it sort The Office with Vikings, maybe it only comes across that way in Norwegian. It has an Asterix vibe to it.
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I always thought Nilfgaard is an incredibly dumb name even for fantasy
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StashAugustine posted:Rome still holds up right? Didn't watch it at the time Yeah, it's great.
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Aside from seeing the plays in the theater, what's the best way to enjoy Bethold Brecht if you haven't seen or read anything by him? Are there films or recordings to stage performances worth looking at or is it better to just read the plays?
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mysterious frankie posted:I doubt I’m being controversial here in saying Mother Courage and Her Children is the best thing he ever wrote and you should see it live if you can. If not there was a German film version made in the 60s Thanks! I guess I'll just pay attention and see if his plays get staged anywhere.
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Cuck Philosophy did a really good video on Martin Heidegger and Miyazaki recently especially focusing on man's relationship with nature, it got taken down for copyright reasons but he posted this magnet link on Twitter: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:af084c6505be27e9526eae731b72d5d9618537ef&dn=Martin%20Heidegger%20%26%20Hayao%20Miyazaki%20-%20Cuck%20Philosophy.m4v&tr=udp%3a%2f%http://2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%https://t.co/ZeTPKhTu4w%3a80
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Yeah they often have that problem because they think viewers are morons who have to be spoonfed everything.
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T-man posted:i hate that baby Disco Elysium is too obvious probably right? In Red Faction: Guerilla you can smash up the property of a corporation on Mars which is topical.
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coathat posted:Good article on the least discussed part of Parasite https://askakorean.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-forgotten-neoliberal-man-of-parasite.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter That's an interesting reading of it. I thought of the Ohs as North-Korea in a sense, it's even pretty directly referenced. But I also thought the worship of the Park family patriarch was reminiscent of certain people's worship of capitalists as much as North Korea's leadership cult. It could be both, in either case accomodating to your circumstances.
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Green Book? Yeah, I'm familiar with Ghadaffi's contributions to theory.
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T-man posted:is he on epsteins island The mysterious knight Geoffrey suddenly appears in Westeros and becomes king of all the land.
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Percelus posted:i just watched the gal gadot imagine thing after avoiding it for over a week and it put me in a bad place, i should have just avoided it forever I clicked a video on Twitter today which was this but Limmy's face deepfaked on. Sadly I can't find it anymore.
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No one's mentioned that in World War Z Russia turns into a repressive theocracy where women are forced to bear children for mader rasha.
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https://twitter.com/MixsterM/status/1274343238061654016 This was the worst one of the whole thread.
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Here's a horrifying thought: if the USSR had still been around today, they would have made a Lenin rap musical.
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Taintrunner posted:Hmm. Nah. Okay, maybe not Lenin but Plekhanov or something.
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I thought he was coded as a pretentious guy, not necessarily gay, while the rest of the show is Norwegian office politics but with vikings. It probably doesn't translate as well as it should. I still agree it's just moderately funny though. I've started watching The X-Files on a whim and as a non-American I find it very interesting when you consider all the Q stuff, the mole children and government agencies competing in byzantine power struggles some of which has a basis in reality. It's interesting to see this current of suspicion of the government, grand conspiracies woven in with the supernatural in American culture.
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Organic Lube User posted:Seemed to be pretty highly gay coded to me, as is the bigger-baddie Jarl. Then all the jokes about rape on top of it. If they're going for Its Always Sunny in Norway, there needs to be a bit more leaning into acknowledgement that the characters are all terrible people, not just the gay ones. It's been a while since I watched it but as far as I can remember none of the characters were good people or likable. Not saying it isn't Fascist in accordance with the famous and correct Phil Greaves tweet.
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Ok, that's clear then. Guess I didn't watch that far or just forgot.
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I expected more of Stalingrad, it's pretty schlocky.
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Zeroisanumber posted:tbf so was saving private ryan Yeah, I was just hyped for it and even saw it in the theatre because I was in Russia then. If you want a dumb action movie with soldiers charging German positions while on fire it's fine but that's not what I thought I was going to see.
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Some Guy TT posted:i watched a ten hour filipino movie once and it was excruciating the theater divided it into two parts and almost nothing of interest happened in the second half at all there was maybe a solid half hour where we were just watching a man slowly bleed to death I watched a Filipino movie that was a kind of retelling of Crime and Punishment, I don't remember its name but it was also very slow and long. Ah I think it was directed by the same guy as the one you probably saw so that would explain it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte,_the_End_of_History Grevling has issued a correction as of 10:01 on Aug 9, 2020 |
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I watched Jodorowsky's Dune yesterday and really want to watch Holy Mountain and El Topo now. Also watched Lost in La Mancha about Terry Gilliam attempting to make a Don Quixote film. Really sad that it didn't work because the guy they had playing Don Quixote seemed perfect. Too bad the film that finally came out of it in 2018 or something appears not to be all that good.
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Alhazred posted:I've actually never seen a Jodorowsky movie, but I've read a lot of the comics he wrote. The film has tons of comics stuff in it, should be very enjoyable if you're into that. H.R. Giger was working on it, I didn't know he was Swiss. Also found out afterwards he died in 2017 from a fall, that's sad.
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I just watched Hail, Caesar! last night. It's about the production of a sword and sandal film in the 60's where movie star Baird Whitlock gets kidnapped (by communists!) while studio fixer Eddie Mannix attempts to get him back. I understand this movie gets a lot of flak, I personally found it very funny. I also thought since it's partly about communists I'd come here and post. The movie within the movie is a Ben Hur-like story about Christ. It seemed to me like Christianity and Communism were juxtaposed in deliberate ways throughout the film. There's a scene where clergy invited to share their thoughts on the film argue about the nature of Christ. Later there's a similar scene where the communist kidnappers debate the nature of capitalists and workers. Herbert Marcuse is part of their circle, which is funny. I don't know anything about what Marcuse actually wrote, but in the movie it seems like it's just nonsense made to sound technical, just sprinkled with terms like "dialectic", "end of history" and "new man". The Cohen brothers know enough about Communism to make fun of it (deterministic, has answers to everything). The communists are ridiculous, which isn't so strange for a comedy, but I still felt like the movie allowed them to make a few points. They're all screenwriters and correctly point out that they see very little of the huge profits from the movies they've written. Whitlock becomes sympathetic to their side, similarly to how his character in the movie, a Roman, accepts Christ's divinity in the end. When Whitlock returns, he starts ranting at Mannix about how Hollywood is an instrument of capitalism and the status quo. Mannix hits him and threatens to out him as a communist sympathizer for insulting the producer, Nick Schenk. The "new faith" in the movie within the movie, Christianity, is a revolutionary faith which calls into question the oppression of slavery. The communists are "for the little guy". At one point they make a sacrifice to the Comintern by throwing a suitcase full of cash at a Soviet submarine. They look for salvation "from below" so to speak, from the little guy or even the submarine. Christianity is salvation from above, and the camera pans upwards to the sky in the last shot of the film with a text "BEHOLD" on a water tower. Mannix is a Catholic of strong faith and moral fiber, as shown when by his frequent confessions over minor infractions like having lied to his wife about smoking cigarettes. He is also a firm believer in the system and loyal to Nick Schenk. His role is to make sure movies get made and make a profit, while their artistic quality is secondary or irrelevant. Near the end of the movie he turns down an offer of a job from Lockheed Martin, not because he finds what they do objectionable but because it "feels right" to continue working as a fixer. His faith in God and loyalty to Schenk seem two sides of the same coin. The voice-over explains that "The Story of Eddie Mannix will never end..for his is a tale written in light everlasting." I was how to understand those words and the movie as a whole. On one level the movie seems obviously sympathetic to Mannix; he makes sure the movies get done, he is faithful and diligent. But he's also just blindly serving the producer, he doesn't care about how the movies end up as long as they make money. So I had two ideas about how to take the ending of the film last night: 1) The role of people like Mannix will always be around because they're the kind of person who makes sure things get done. Or 2) I honestly forgot what this was that I thought last night but it was something a bit subversive
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theflyingexecutive posted:the movie’s raison d’etre is to deliver the hammer-blow line of “the studios control the means of production” Farm Frenzy posted:i think hail caesar is satirising hollywood generally. its set in the golden age but all the movies they make are lovely and disposable in genres that dont exist anymore. mannix loves the business but he only really cares about disciplining his workers and the entire efforts of the subversive communist intellectuals ends up being sneaking lines into singing cowboy movies and then getting tricked by soviet propaganda Well in that case the final message is just incredibly pessimistic?
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Hodgepodge posted:well, based on the posts itt, it sounds like they inspire genuine communist faith in clooney's character, which based on what i picked up from cined and watching one scene, is equated with a literal miracle and the work of christ He does go over to their side but he's also a buffoon, as are the communist script writers. I think the way to understand it is that capitalism genuinely does lead to a lovely movies but the only people who propose anything different are too ineffectual to change it, and so this will keep going on for eternity.
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Hodgepodge posted:one flaw the left has is not understanding the power of religion due to a sort of chauvinism that is compatible with neither marx's historicism nor our own most pointed criticisms of it. They explore faith in their movies but it's not always in a positive way in my limited experience, I'm in the middle of watching all of their films. I think that in this movie, especially with the speech scene, they're looking at the power of narratives in some way. The audience is enraptured as Clooney's character makes his big speech about Christ and the new world that's coming, then the spell is broken when he doesn't even remember the full line; it's just sentimental pap written to sell tickets. The narratives are interchangable. During confession, the priest tells Mannix that God wants us to do what's right, that is for Mannix do what he feels is right. What he feels is right is also what God wants. It makes me think of when in No Country for Old Men Carla Jean refuses to call heads or tails "the dice don't do anything. It's just you." Breakfast All Day posted:i only saw it on release so need to rewatch, though. thanks for sharing your reading Grevling since it sounds interesting to watch for Glad there was something interesting to it, just wish I could have been more coherent. I think you and StashAugustine probably have better points.
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Yeah I was wondering how to take the word he forgets is "...faith", it could be something like that. Meanwhile Mannix is firm in his faith and he's all the better for it. Even the communists, they seem to be having a pretty good time at least. or he lost faith in the whole process because of the communists. Reagan once said that Marxism-Leninism is the world's second oldest religion, and began when the serpent tempted Eve saying "ye can be as gods". From a conservative point of view it's the malcontents that create problems, not the other way around. Grevling has issued a correction as of 16:29 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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