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The replay just shown by ITV shows Kinghorn's elbow touching the line so the TMO was correct and it was so obvious it didn't need to go on the screen.
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Or just show it so the crowd at the stadium know what's going on?
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I can’t decide what’s funnier, England having to get on the bus back to the Principality only to turn around and go straight back to their hotel if we lose, or us somehow winning and England having to celebrate a 6N win in an empty Welsh stadium.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:06
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Vaders Jester posted:No, the French match directors are just perennially poo poo and should have stuck it on the screen. Should be shown in real time, and when the TMO is talking a ref down in a situation where a clear straight red is required, and no one bothers to look at an obvious tip tackle, it raises questions about the competence of the refereeing team.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:08
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Welp, Bad Scotland instead of Bad France
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Peak Scotland there.
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Definitely a tackler
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Mar 15, 2025 22:13
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With how long it takes French players to get onside, and their convenient placement in front of the ref while doing so, I like to think the TV director is trying to recreate the view of Carley in real time.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:16
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Russell and White are playing some beautiful rugby and it's still not enough.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:19
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Some top quality Scotlanding by Russell there.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:22
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Since when can’t you tackle from the floor??
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Mar 15, 2025 22:22
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90% of my playing career was lying on the ground waiting for someone to run close enough for me to grab an ankle
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Gasmask posted:90% of my playing career was lying on the ground waiting for someone to run close enough for me to grab an ankle #frontrowunion
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Mar 15, 2025 22:24
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not enjoying this whole supporting scotland thing
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Mar 15, 2025 22:25
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Second half Scotland in full effect.
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Skarsnik posted:not enjoying this whole supporting scotland thing Pull up a seat, it's going to get worse.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:26
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Congrats France, clearly the best team across the tournament except for ten hilarious minutes.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:30
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Should’ve been a scrum at that ruck. If the Scots had knocked on, so had Lucy when he dropped the ball cold while retrieving it.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:30
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Back on the bus, England
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Very funny seeing the amount of English fans on reddit fully on board some kind of anti-Scotland-reffing conspiracy No ref matters more than Scotland scotlanding
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Mar 15, 2025 22:31
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Was always going to be a decent contest until the French bench came on. Now Scotland have to try to keep it under 50
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Mar 15, 2025 22:33
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That's another tip tackle
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Mar 15, 2025 22:34
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There were some shocking calls and non-calls during the first 40. Mauvaka should have received a straight red, and there was a tip tackle on one of the Scots that got ignored. It may not have changed the outcome, but it warrants a please explain from Townsend.
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Gilly’s had a hell of a game
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edogawa rando posted:There were some shocking calls and non-calls during the first 40. Mauvaka should have received a straight red, and there was a tip tackle on one of the Scots that got ignored. Yeah I do agree, interested in seeing if anyone's cited after this I've not looked into the details of the bunker rules, but I do wonder if there's some way it's written that meant that the degree of danger mitigation had to be considered despite the Mauvaka thing not being a tackle
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Mar 15, 2025 22:43
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That ‘held up’ call was loving horse poo poo
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Elsa Maria posted:Yeah I do agree, interested in seeing if anyone's cited after this no. the degree of danger is never mitigation when the action was always illegal foul play. besides saying that was not a high degree of danger is utterly incomprehensible.
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Elsa Maria posted:Yeah I do agree, interested in seeing if anyone's cited after this Or maybe, just being a devils avocado, maybe the bunker had a better angle than the two poor angles we have seen and that makes the no real force decision be correct.
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Mar 15, 2025 22:49
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A headbutt after the whistle is always a headbutt. There shouldn't be mitigation for "force"
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Mar 15, 2025 22:51
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Marius Jonker was kicked in the head by a horse
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See you all next year
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Hell of a game and Scotland were competitive throughout but it was always going to be too much after the bench came on. A fair few lads played very well though and did their Lions chances no harm.
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Mar 15, 2025 23:02
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It’s nice they let that wee crippled mascot lad lift the trophy at the end there. Fair play France
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Gasmask posted:Marius Jonker was kicked in the head by a horse It was Marius van der Westhuizen as tmo but I'm not saying you're wrong
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Gasmask posted:See you all next year Don't be daft, the 6N starts next week
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Jesus, what a pointless game the Welsh game was England may as well have been playing Namibia.
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Can someone explain what happened to Wales over the last (few?) years?
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Covid gutted the WRU and regional team finances, then they rehired Gatland to solve their problems but like going back to an ex it was a dogshit idea because he's been terrible everywhere since he left Wales and was somehow worse when he got back. Then Gatland coached like it was still 2008 and Warrenball was still a thing, refused to pick some of the best Welsh players available or played them out of position, drove off guys like Feyi-Waboso because he refused to let him play for Wales while studying at uni in Exeter, blamed his players for being greedy and sided against them when they were going to strike over their wages, and was just generally a worstcunt.
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At a very basic level the Welsh had a golden generation who retired in the last couple of years and there was no one able to step up and replace them. As it stands I would put Italy's team having more talent than the current Wales team. The WRU has been laser focused on the amateur pub game and playing property developers and has left the professional game to rot, both with attention and money. So while Wales were doing well under Gatlan the first time round there were no clear, funded, and competent pathway to turn promising ten year olds into test caliber players and it was just left to chance and what ever the schools and the professional clubs could cobble together. So the likes of Rees-Zammit were as much an accident as it was any kind of real plan. Then you compare this to Ireland, who until recently the IRU didn't make much more money than the WRU but made so much more from it. The focus from the IRU was on the professional game so while the local amateur clubs have much better facilities in Wales than in Ireland, the professional game (both the URC teams as well as the national team) are so much better. Squidge Rugby did a very good video how Leinster (I think) work with a number of local schools and provide coaching support to those schools, so they end up with three or four under 18 teams who have had professional level coaching in the Leinster way of playing for years. This allows talented kids to be developed into professional players and to maximise the results from the number of players they have. France has the advantage of rugby being a big country with rugby being the most popular sport and England has it's problems but while the system may be less efficient and worse than others it can overcome this with volume and money. I think Scotland has issues with more down to funding and rugby being a distant second place to football but has currently got a golden generation. So my thoughts after the six nations. There are the top tier of teams that on their day can beat each other. France can be beaten but they have both the power and skill to beat anyone in the world, they just need consistency. Ireland are still the machine they have been the last few years but are in danger of being left behind in the current rugby meta. England are the worse of the top three but are getting better each game (I think if England played Ireland next week they could probably beat them) and more importantly from the last few years they have the ability to move to a plan B or plan C. Scotland sit on their own as a threat to any team with the flair players who can just pull off bullshit but they blow hot and cold, and Scotland don't seem to have the power and depth to prevent themselves from being bullied by the likes of France or South Africa. Wales and Italy are on their own level at the bottom. Italy can play 50 minutes of truly world class rugby but just shoot themselves in the foot and the worse possible times, a true ability to Scotland themselves. If they can cut that out of their game and believe in themselves to could move up into the next level of true threats to everyone. Wales are going in the opposite direction to Italy and without some serious changes in the background that will take years to fix they will have the wooden spoon for a number of years. Wales currently look like a tier 2 nation cosplaying as a tier 1 nation (like Australia did at their nadir).
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Mister Chief posted:Can someone explain what happened to Wales over the last (few?) years? Obviously this is a question with a complicated answer, Welsh rugby fell off a cliff in the 90s (Though really the rot set in in the late 80s) and hasn't fully recovered (if it ever will) but it has really been dealt a blow by the fact that the WRU never properly invested the money it made from the Gatland golden era.
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