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Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Still feel that Japan will put a few tries away in the second half. Unexpectedly good effort by Russia so far though, if they can go in with a half-time lead that's an impressive effort.

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Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
The Uruguay win was fantastic but if Fiji had a kicker who could get a single kick through the posts they would have won comfortably. Fiji scored with like 1 kick out of 8 or something, it was insane. Uruguay absolutely deserved to win based on that stat alone but the Fiji coach must be pulling his hair out.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Looks like this is turning into a rout. USA are offensively extremely poor so there is very little pressure on England.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Shameful of England to let that try in at the end. We are going to get battered by the first good team we face.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

runoverbobby posted:

That's the rest of his tournament, then? The focus on high tackles is good but missing the entire tournament is quite a punishment for a foul not involving malice.
Are you being serious? He should be out for the rest of the tournament. You simply can't allow players to smash opponents above the neck line, rugby is a lethal sport that has resulted in many deaths over the years mostly caused by head injuries.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...e-a8721256.html

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Surprised how one sided that game was after Ireland scored their second try. It was about 50 minutes of Japanese offense apart from the desperate Irish attack 5 minutes from the end.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
It is a rather strange quirk that Ireland are comfortably through while the unbeaten Japanese team, who defeated Ireland, are in a quite precarious position. Ireland kicking the ball out rather than trying to equalise to ensure the bonus point in the loss to Japan looks like a smart move now as it essentially guarantees progress (although even without it they would just need a bonus point win against Samoa to ensure qualification).

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Stone cold red that, he leaned in hard with the shoulder to the head.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
That has been some pathetic kicking from England... Should be out of sight.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

tarbrush posted:

The commentators unjustified fellatio of England is noticeable even to me, an English
I mean I'm pretty sure if you listened to the Argentinian commentary it would be biased towards their team.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Very pretty Argentinian try, they deserve that.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
According to the article it is much more likely that the match would get moved to a different stadium rather than be cancelled. I imagine the cancelled match scenario would only occur in an extreme situation where unsafe weather conditions happen very suddenly and unexpectedly and there is no time to move the match. The authorities in this case are clearly aware of the developing storm so will be able to make an early decision.

Scotland will qualify if they beat Japan regardless of the Ireland result with the exception that Japan lose and pick up both bonus points so if the match is cancelled the real beneficiaries would be Japan who would then be guaranteed progress.

Edit: I guess another scenario for Scotland to go out would be if Ireland get a 4 point victory over Samoa and Scotland beat Japan with both sides getting a bonus point as that would leave Scotland in third on score difference (assuming Scotland get a bonus point win vs Russia but don't give them a huge walloping to significantly improve their score difference).

Flayer fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Oct 7, 2019

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Assuming Scotland get a 5 point win over Russia

If Ireland beat Samoa and get a bonus point then if:
Scotland beat Japan and get at least as many bonus points as Japan then Scotland go through on head-to-head over Japan
Scotland beat Japan but Japan get more bonus points than Scotland then Japan go through on points in second place behind Ireland (Japan will even win the group in the case of a double bonus point loss)
Any win or a draw for Japan sends them through as group winners with Ireland in second place

If the Ireland-Samoa match is abandoned as a 0-0 draw then if:
Scotland win by any means they go through and Ireland are eliminated
Japan wins by any means then Scotland are out
A draw puts Japan and Ireland through (even in the case of Scotland getting a bonus point draw as Ireland win on head-to-head)

If Ireland beat Samoa but don't get a bonus point then if:
Scotland get a bonus point win over Japan but Japan also get a bonus point then it comes down to a score difference as all teams will have 15 points and 1 win and 1 defeat vs the other teams
Scotland win and Japan get no bonus points then Japan are eliminated
Scotland beat Japan but Japan get more bonus points than Scotland then Scotland are eliminated and Japan win the group
A draw eliminates Scotland and Japan go through as group winners
Any Japan win and Scotland are out

I reckon...

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
This is brutal to watch. Not sure if South Africa will even ease off considering there next game is 11 days away.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

Raffles posted:

I know it's always the way but it's frustrating that there are only 2 pool matches left that mean anything. I really hope they don't add more teams any time soon.
Alternatively add more teams and only have 1 monster team per group. For example sticking NZ and South Africa in the same group where the top 2 go through renders the whole thing pointless. If there were say 8 groups and each group contained one of SA, NZ, Australia, England, Wales, Ireland, France, Scotland - then you'd have interesting games right up until the end.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Even if Fiji win this they are still out due to Wales and Australia having a final fixture against tier2 nations to come.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
These cancellations make a mockery of the world cup. Of course NZ were going to hammer Italy but from a technical point of view this was a critical group deciding match. Might as well just hand the top 8 teams a place in the quarters and not have a group stage with this attitude.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

harperdc posted:

They made rules, they’re following them. If France-England had a place on the line it’d be unfortunate, too. Luckily it’s a dead rubber.

The last thing anybody wants is to take a typhoon lightly. The typhoon in early September damaged a ton of homes and caused major issues at Narita Airport for a couple days; a typhoon smaller than this smacked Osaka last year and caused serious damage too.

It’s the World Cup but this stuff happens. Safety is more important than the risk to everyone involved.
Nobody is suggesting that matches are played during a typhoon but the matches should have been moved to an alternate stadium. There is enough time and the article I read when this issue first came up quoted officials saying that games would be moved and only cancelled as a last resort. Its a real shambles to have group positions and qualification decided by called off games. The same thing happened in the cricket world cup earlier this year and it was just as much of a joke there. A once every four year competition should have better foresight in the planning stages.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Italy have an exactly 0% chance of taking a game off NZ but that's not the point. It's laughable to have a tournament where you cancel a match that is technically critical to qualification. If the Scotland match does get cancelled I hope they sue the poo poo out of the governing body and then Italy follow suit.

Imagine if SA had beaten NZ in a reverse score of what actually happened (not impossible at all) and Italy went through with the cancelled game, eliminating NZ. This is basically the same scenario on the technical level.

Flayer fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Oct 11, 2019

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
That second try by Ireland was ace. Pure big man power.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Attack vs defence, champagne rugby. Ireland look great but massively helped by poor discipline in every facet from Samoa.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Oof, that conversion attempt by Samoa. Ireland need to get their heads back in the game.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Thats going to be a red card for Ireland...

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Yeah, very poor tackle. Super dangerous, Aki was fully stood up when he made the hit.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

sephiRoth IRA posted:

Woof. That means japan and Ireland are in, with Japan facing AB and Ireland facing RSA?
Japan will win the group based on head to head record so will face SA.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Only a single point between the teams at the half, very disappointing for Wales but well done to Uruguay for taking the points on offer and defending stoutly.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
gently caress me, what a great try

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Oh dear, is that going to be red for Scotland?

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Great take, Japan looking dominant

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
If Scotland concede another try they are almost certainly out.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Scotland could still draw this but not enough time to get the points needed to qualify. Well done Japan!

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
What exactly does it take to become a tier1 nation?

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
It looks like that women in the bottom right is featured on the banner and advertisements in the upper left.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Looking forward to the England-NZ semi. As a Brit I think we have not more than a 20% chance of progressing but it should be a good match if Farrell kicks as well as he did today.

Really looking forward to Japan vs SA tomorrow - SA massive favourites but really hoping for Japan to pull off a miracle. If they somehow do I'd rate them favourites to get it the final vs either of Wales or France based on momentum.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Wales have been battered over the last ten minutes - its a huge morale boost if they keep the lead down to 9 at the half.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
This is such a weird game. France going in at the half with only a 9 point lead was not doing their dominance justice at all and in this second half Wales have been on top the whole time but haven't looked liked scoring at all. Its like neither team wants to win.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
The French scrum, jesus christ

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Got to admire how Japan take territory with phase play rather than just booting up the field.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
I have no problem with Peyper doing the elbow pose but he shouldn't be seen hanging out with fans of any one team like that during the world cup.

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Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
England would be home and dry now if the tmo wasn't such a loving prick

Waiting for the NZ comeback to kick in any time now

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