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I'm a brand new player and just finished hitting 50 with Silk and pulled an Iseria, oh well such is the life of gachas
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Dec 19, 2019 07:07
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Despite being the same element and class, they do very different things. Iseria's a single target nuker/cd reduction and def break bot; Silk is an aoe dps and team buffer. Iseria's the more useful of the two at endgame by an extremely large margin, but Silk might be more useful to you still for a while yet. feller fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 07:10
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I had to use all 605 of my bookmarks to get Iseria. That's what I get for posting about not having to use many for previous banners. On the bright side, I did manage to pick up Crimson Armin from the resulting gold stones, so that's something I guess.
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Dec 19, 2019 07:14
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I do think I'm lacking aoe right now, I'm running Mistychain for damage and offheals, Ravi as a drain tank and Violet as another dps with the 4th slot being Silk or Iseria. Could probably stand to replace Mistychain with a dedicated healer later in the game but for now she's able to keep everyone up fairly well.
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Dec 19, 2019 07:14
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What in the world. A 6* Seaside Bellona just soloed my entire team in PvP, consisting of 6* A. Mont and Vildred, 5* Axe God and Vivian. Her opening move instantly killed two Vildred and Axe God. Uhhh, is that normal? What the hell?
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Dec 19, 2019 07:34
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah like... on its face I'm not mad at all about the idea of making unit skins a/the new monetization angle, but doing it at the same time you kneecap the epic pass? That's a bold loving move. Oh, not complaining about the skin at all. The skin costs exactly the same 900 extra crystals over the pass as it did before. I don't mind them charging $$$ for skins as I've mentioned in the discord. As long as it doesn't have stats, cosmetics is a great way for games to be funded. PoE and LoL are two good examples. Nerfing the pass's rewards though, that's just dumb. We're gonna be in for another roller coaster of 'oops we're sorry, here's some free poo poo' then they'll make more dumb decisions. Yolomancer posted:What in the world. A 6* Seaside Bellona just soloed my entire team in PvP, consisting of 6* A. Mont and Vildred, 5* Axe God and Vivian. Her opening move instantly killed two Vildred and Axe God. Uhhh, is that normal? What the hell? A high crit damage geared unit can absolutely murder a team if they don't have enough HPs. It's rare to see a green unit outright die to a blue unit though. Was there a defense break on him? Did she have an attack buff?
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Dec 19, 2019 07:38
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Kalas posted:Oh, not complaining about the skin at all. The skin costs exactly the same 900 extra crystals over the pass as it did before. Nope. The whole team was a 6* Seaside Bellona, that's all. She moved first, killed two of them, then killed the remaining two in the following couple of turns. Nothing I could do.
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Dec 19, 2019 07:51
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Nazzadan posted:I'm a brand new player and just finished hitting 50 with Silk and pulled an Iseria, oh well such is the life of gachas I had the same thing starting with Iseria and pulled Bellona. Like Dog said, it's not as much of a letdown as it first seems. Silk slows the enemy and speeds your guys up and Iseria can capitalize on those extra turns to cycle folks' skills even more and keep the enemy debuffed. Armor break and buff immunity are REALLY useful, the sorts of debuffs that can crack a tough boss's mechanic wide open (though some self-dispell before buffing). It stings when you're just starting and have obvious gaps in your team, though, I know that feeling. For AoE take a look at Lena, she's a 3* but has a useful (if limited) AoE skillset. For a lot of the story mode stuff (until around area 10 or the second continent) she can team up with someone else and a friend unit to easily walk through battles escorting a couple of fodder. Trying to solo she was too fragile for me, but once I put a unit in front to take hits (Mistychain's off-heals might work well to keep them up, I never played around with her) if I tapped someone in the first wave enough for Exposed to kill them Lena would just sweep everything afterward. Unless they were green or once she started falling behind in later chapters, but she was really useful in the beginning.
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Dec 19, 2019 09:32
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Yolomancer posted:Nope. The whole team was a 6* Seaside Bellona, that's all. She moved first, killed two of them, then killed the remaining two in the following couple of turns. Nothing I could do. Seaside Bellona is probably the most OP PvP unit in the game. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
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Dec 19, 2019 09:48
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I think the problem is that they're way more generous than most gachas, and they're trying to find other ways to get their money. It's not like a lot of these games where whales will drop $1000 on every banner. Nerfing the epic pass while the community is pissed at them and lots of other games are giving away a ton of stuff for Christmas is pretty ballsy/stupid, though.
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Dec 19, 2019 12:07
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Yolomancer posted:Nope. The whole team was a 6* Seaside Bellona, that's all. She moved first, killed two of them, then killed the remaining two in the following couple of turns. Nothing I could do. Any unit with 4000+ attack and 280%+ crit damage will pretty much erase any non tanking unit, especially without defensive artifacts. Usually such units relly on CR pushers to operate as they have to sacrifice speed to output such damage. How fast is your team?
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Dec 19, 2019 12:14
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The Moon Monster posted:I think the problem is that they're way more generous than most gachas, and they're trying to find other ways to get their money. It's not like a lot of these games where whales will drop $1000 on every banner. Nerfing the epic pass while the community is pissed at them and lots of other games are giving away a ton of stuff for Christmas is pretty ballsy/stupid, though. It's more that this comes on the heels of a variety of really bad decisions over the last few months. Have to have limited currency for autobattle pets (which I ran out of), much anticipated world boss that's just a skippable cutscene, and first iteration of equipment conversion that was total garbage. Now add nerfed event and epic pass and people are understandably pissed. They also haven't delivered on new content like the rest of hell raid or finishing Nixied's sanctum.
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Dec 19, 2019 15:18
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Yolomancer posted:Nope. The whole team was a 6* Seaside Bellona, that's all. She moved first, killed two of them, then killed the remaining two in the following couple of turns. Nothing I could do. You will come to realize in Arena especially later on that your gear is just poo poo, just absolute dogshit, compared to people who have been playing for months / over a year. Don't worry about it, the grind to get better gear is the entire game pretty much, so it'll take a while before this stops happening. PVP isn't split up by gear so there will always be people sitting in the dumpster ratings who outgear you by far.
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Dec 19, 2019 16:11
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Indecisive posted:You will come to realize in Arena especially later on that your gear is just poo poo, just absolute dogshit, compared to people who have been playing for months / over a year. Don't worry about it, the grind to get better gear is the entire game pretty much, so it'll take a while before this stops happening. PVP isn't split up by gear so there will always be people sitting in the dumpster ratings who outgear you by far. Yeah, I have half-decent gear and I got completely steamrolled by someone's solo BBK. My Luna outsped her by a hair, dropped her to like 40% with her ult, and then BBK was like "you are already dead" and cleaved my entire team in half. Arena! 
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Dec 19, 2019 16:20
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Bruceski posted:For AoE take a look at Lena, she's a 3* but has a useful (if limited) AoE skillset. For a lot of the story mode stuff (until around area 10 or the second continent) she can team up with someone else and a friend unit to easily walk through battles escorting a couple of fodder. Trying to solo she was too fragile for me, but once I put a unit in front to take hits (Mistychain's off-heals might work well to keep them up, I never played around with her) if I tapped someone in the first wave enough for Exposed to kill them Lena would just sweep everything afterward. Unless they were green or once she started falling behind in later chapters, but she was really useful in the beginning. I did pull a Lena last night right after Iseria, I'll level her up over the weekend and get a feel for her. I'm just starting the second continent and getting kinda close to being able to make my first 6* and am stuck between using it on my 3 main characters (Ravi, Violet or Misty) but maybe I'll hold off and see how Iseria feels. thanks for the input!
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Dec 19, 2019 16:41
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, I have half-decent gear and I got completely steamrolled by someone's solo BBK. My Luna outsped her by a hair, dropped her to like 40% with her ult, and then BBK was like "you are already dead" and cleaved my entire team in half. The worst thing you could do is fail to kill a BBK. Her stat buff based on lost health is ridiculously good. I’ve had my BBK brought to a sliver of health, fully Dizzy debuffed , and watched the entire enemy team melt on the S3.
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Dec 19, 2019 16:43
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Kalas posted:The worst thing you could do is fail to kill a BBK. Yeah, I didn't expect her to be able to take 11k damage on the chin and clap back. Plus since she was solo, not many other targets for me to put a Luna ult into. One day I'll build my BBK.
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Dec 19, 2019 17:04
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, I have half-decent gear and I got completely steamrolled by someone's solo BBK. My Luna outsped her by a hair, dropped her to like 40% with her ult, and then BBK was like "you are already dead" and cleaved my entire team in half. I've had some fights like this, but my favorite was a level 43 Arbiter Vildred. Poke him, he dies immediately, revives and one-shots my team. It's hard to even be mad at that.
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Dec 19, 2019 20:52
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Bruceski posted:I've had some fights like this, but my favorite was a level 43 Arbiter Vildred. Poke him, he dies immediately, revives and one-shots my team. It's hard to even be mad at that. You need either Lilibet or Specimen Sez to safely kill A.Vildreds (and any other unit with an auto-rez). Or a unit that gets a forced extra turn like BBK or Baiken, though Baiken would have a lot of problems killing him from full since he'll not have bleeds anymore. I'm hoping we see more Eradication characters. Auto/Revive is rare, but it's crazy powerful.
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Dec 19, 2019 21:17
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Arbiter Vildred is just ridiculous. Even if you have Lilibet or Spez there's like a 60% chance he's wearing moonlight dreamblade so it's RNG whether you kill him or not anyway. I do have other means to deal with him, but it's just such a pain in the rear end that he's really killed my desire to try to climb higher in PvP after getting to 4200 and seeing him become almost ubiquitous. Seaside Bellona also sucks big time and she's even more common. At least I can use fire units against angry vildred.cirus posted:It's more that this comes on the heels of a variety of really bad decisions over the last few months. Have to have limited currency for autobattle pets (which I ran out of), much anticipated world boss that's just a skippable cutscene, and first iteration of equipment conversion that was total garbage. Now add nerfed event and epic pass and people are understandably pissed. They also haven't delivered on new content like the rest of hell raid or finishing Nixied's sanctum. Yeah, that's what I was alluding to with the "community is pissed at them" statement. I pretty much agree with most of the complaints, not trying to defend them here. I feel like if they just got rid of the bookmarks from the epic pass and left the rest of the rewards alone the response would be much tamer. Stuff like nerfing the gold reward from 600k to 300k is such chump change it's weird that they even did it, it just feels like adding insult to injury.
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Dec 19, 2019 22:16
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The Moon Monster posted:Arbiter Vildred is just ridiculous. Even if you have Lilibet or Spez there's like a 60% chance he's wearing moonlight dreamblade so it's RNG whether you kill him or not anyway. I do have other means to deal with him, but it's just such a pain in the rear end that he's really killed my desire to try to climb higher in PvP after getting to 4200 and seeing him become almost ubiquitous. Seaside Bellona also sucks big time and she's even more common. At least I can use fire units against angry vildred. I don’t think a stunned unit can evade. Of course evade can stop the stun, but then you don’t go for the S3. I only have been using Spez, Lilibet is way down my priority list atm. And yeah, SSBellona can be murder.
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Dec 19, 2019 23:21
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You can absolutely miss a stunned unit, which I thought was extremely rude when I discovered it. e: miss % may be different from evade %, would have to doublecheck fatcat's passive since he's where it came up. Irony.or.Death fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 23:47
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Irony.or.Death posted:You can absolutely miss a stunned unit, which I thought was extremely rude when I discovered it. Fatcat has a special autododge on his passive. It’s funny to see streamers like YCDB forget that. It makes for some really funny reactions and bitching. That may superscede stun.
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Dec 20, 2019 00:11
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I maxed an Oath Key (3* artifact) for avild killing purposes and don't regret it at all
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Dec 20, 2019 01:07
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My trick is to not actually give a poo poo about pvp.
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Dec 20, 2019 01:14
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The Moon Monster posted:Arbiter Vildred is just ridiculous. Even if you have Lilibet or Spez there's like a 60% chance he's wearing moonlight dreamblade so it's RNG whether you kill him or not anyway. I do have other means to deal with him, but it's just such a pain in the rear end that he's really killed my desire to try to climb higher in PvP after getting to 4200 and seeing him become almost ubiquitous. Seaside Bellona also sucks big time and she's even more common. At least I can use fire units against angry vildred. i've changed my arena strat from an offensive one to just bringing the most irritating defense team i can and only hitting people with avil and other offensively-oriented comps without healers like, he's strong, but while luna can do this kind of damage, avil basically can't do 22k to tanky guys even with his ult counter MonsieurChoc posted:My trick is to not actually give a poo poo about pvp. it's this but the skystone rewards are too good to ignore it entirely
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Dec 23, 2019 00:57
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The White Dragon posted:it's this but the skystone rewards are too good to ignore it entirely I can sit at 4000 and get 600 a week with literally zero effort so that's good enough for me.
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Dec 23, 2019 03:05
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After a run of good Abyss sessions, level 64 is kicking my rear end! Should I be ignoring the adds and just focus on the main boss? Also, after ages of no luck on mystic summons, I get two Celestial Mercedes back to back! Is she worth pushing up to 5 star for anything?
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Dec 23, 2019 12:40
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Question Mark Mound posted:After a run of good Abyss sessions, level 64 is kicking my rear end! Should I be ignoring the adds and just focus on the main boss? Hello, fellow C. Merc haver! Yes, she's definitely worth 5 or even 6 starring. Her kit is surprisingly useful in both boss fights and PVP. The S2 in particular is noteworthy because it scales off enemy max HP, which in later content equals absurdly large amounts of damage. Her S3 is a good CR boost if there are multiple enemies, which lets the S2 finish them off. The S1 is nothing to write home about, but it does inflict unhealable, which has its uses. Just note that if you're going to use her, she's slow, so you'll probably either want a good deal of speed gear, or run her in a CR pushing lineup. Added fun bonus! You can get her to SSS without getting more copies of her. Go do the cracks in the world and use the world fragments on her. She gets crit imprint.
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Dec 23, 2019 13:47
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I think I already used up some of the upgrade items on regular Mercedes  I’ll get her up to 5* this week then, thanks!
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Dec 23, 2019 16:27
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Question Mark Mound posted:I think I already used up some of the upgrade items on regular Mercedes It takes really good gear and usually a C.Dom to assist, but I've had my arena team absolutely deleted more then once by a C.Mercedes. I will go after A.Vildred and ML Ken teams in arena, but when I see C.Mercedes I pause. (I actually nope out)
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Dec 23, 2019 17:28
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The team I use most of the time for arena is Ruele, Krau, Fallen Cecilia, and SSB. I rarely lose to defenses without healers and for stall teams I just bring Iseria/Tamarinne/Lillibet and then still Ruele for the last slot because she is a great tank and a lot of scary pvp units will target her.
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Dec 25, 2019 01:12
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Did everybody get a rename ticket, or are they passive-aggressively telling me there's some issue with my player name?
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Dec 27, 2019 00:00
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Bruceski posted:Did everybody get a rename ticket, or are they passive-aggressively telling me there's some issue with my player name? We all got one.
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Dec 27, 2019 00:13
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JFC I just got Diene and Krau, one after the other, on my first summon in each pool.  There goes my rng luck for the next century
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Dec 30, 2019 01:54
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I don't know if people intentionally set a crap defense team at the end of the week or I just got RNG blessed, but I was rolling enough of them that I spent about 90 crystals (and my friend points for the day) to get over the threshold to 3000 points in arena. So I get to make that investment back in a few hours.
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Dec 30, 2019 05:34
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I couldn't find a clear answer through cursory Googling: now that I reached the Master tier will I stay there for every weekly reset even if 65 people attack me and drop me down into Gold?
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Dec 31, 2019 00:28
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Iirc, you need to drop 50 points below the entry threshold to get knocked back down.
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Dec 31, 2019 00:38
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Ezelek posted:Iirc, you need to drop 50 points below the entry threshold to get knocked back down. 65 people jumping on me did just that. What I'm curious about is whether the reset next Monday goes off current rank or highest.
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Dec 31, 2019 00:46
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Bruceski posted:65 people jumping on me did just that. What I'm curious about is whether the reset next Monday goes off current rank or highest. Did you just have a level 5 Ras on defense? That's usually what triggers a pile-on like that. It should be based off current rank. I usually just do NPC fights all week for the daily quest and fix my standings on Sunday. It usually works out well. I'm not trying to climb though, Challenger is not a fun place to advance.
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Dec 31, 2019 00:58
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