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 From the steam page posted:In a near-future Tokyo, detective Kaname Date is on the case of a mysterious serial killer. Date must investigate crime scenes as well as dreams on the hunt for clues. From the mind of Kotaro Uchikoshi (Zero Escape series director), with character design by the Yusuke Kozaki (NO MORE HEROES, Fire Emblem series), a thrilling neo-noir detective adventure is about to unfold. Gameplay: The game plays like a mix between point and click and visual novel. You can look around an area in first person and click on background objects to get some information, but you mainly talk to other people and ask them questions. The puzzle elements of this game take the form of the Somnium, the dreams of people you are interrogating. Each somnium is unique and follows it's own bizarre logic. They're kind of like timed point and click puzzles, and some Somnium have multiple solutions, with each solution leading to a different story path.  USE SPOILER TAGS Everyone's doing a good job about this, but just in case, I'd like to remind people that this was written by the guy who did Zero Escape, so I'm expecting some crazy plot twists at some point. I for once don't want to be spoiled.
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I got this on launch day and I'm about eight hours in. I'm enjoying it so far, but I wish Ota didn't exist. Has anyone ever found this type of character entertaining?
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Sep 21, 2019 23:39
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Momomo posted:I got this on launch day and I'm about eight hours in. I'm enjoying it so far, but I wish Ota didn't exist. Has anyone ever found this type of character entertaining? he gets way more fleshed out and becomes an actually likeable character. his mom rules also this game might be tied with Judgment for my GOTY 
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Sep 21, 2019 23:47
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Some tips for the Somnium levels, I actually didn't care for them at first but that's because I was overlooking a few things. 1. The flashing yellow sign is usually a big hint as to what you need to do to break a lock. 2. Remember to press X when selecting a TIMIE. I originally thought all you needed to do was hover over one, but no, you gotta press x. It's a little counter-intuitive. 3. Spend at least one loop just screwing around and pressing stuff. It helps you avoid overthinking things and getting angry. 4. I give you permission to use a guide for Psyncin' In The Curtain. SardonicTyrant fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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Sep 21, 2019 23:52
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Momomo posted:I got this on launch day and I'm about eight hours in. I'm enjoying it so far, but I wish Ota didn't exist. Has anyone ever found this type of character entertaining? Ota's Psync is extremely good and his ending is genuinely touching, although a lot of that is due to his mom & dad and not just himself
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Sep 22, 2019 00:03
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I think my favorite part of this game is the fact that Date's this chill dude who's good with kids and teens.
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Sep 22, 2019 00:33
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I respect and appreciate the fact that Date is Shazam, and his magic word is "porn"
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Sep 22, 2019 01:47
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SardonicTyrant posted:I respect and appreciate the fact that Date is Shazam, and his magic word is "POOOORNO MAAAG" fixed
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Sep 22, 2019 01:49
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I just finished the game and it was a pretty great experience all around, definitely think that Psyncin' in the VaiN was definitely the game's highest point though, that was when the game really got its hooks into me. Honestly though, I hated Ota's somnium, it took long to traverse the areas, the music was annoying, and I just didn't like Ota throughout it. It wasn't as bad as Iris' fauxMinecraft somnium but that's mainly just because that one took loving forever with the constant dance numbers.
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Sep 22, 2019 03:31
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I will never not be entertained by Date getting poo poo-talked by a 12 year old. Who could probably legitimately kick his rear end.
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Sep 22, 2019 03:54
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I just got the Mizuki end. There's something weird going on, but I can't put my finger on it yet.
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Sep 22, 2019 14:57
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Ota as he starts out sucks but he gets forced to improve over the course of the game Game is great everything comes together in an amazingly satisfying way.
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Sep 22, 2019 15:05
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Imagine hating Ota after having to deal with Eric in Zero Time Dilemma.
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Sep 22, 2019 15:15
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SardonicTyrant posted:I just got the Mizuki end. There's something weird going on, but I can't put my finger on it yet. Yeah, I got that as my first ending last night. I find it very funny that Date took the law into his own hands, executed a senator, and got a promotion for it. Everything was tied up way too neatly for that ending, but I did really like the stuff with Mizuki. Edit: I just got a scene where Ota literally has a woman feeding him at a restaurant. The dude is trash.
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Sep 22, 2019 15:17
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Ota's a lovely millenial, yeah, but he's not the sheer headcase Eric and Mira were.
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Sep 22, 2019 16:30
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lol literally every gunfight is resolved with the help of porn
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Sep 22, 2019 16:34
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Momomo posted:Yeah, I got that as my first ending last night. I find it very funny that Date took the law into his own hands, executed a senator, and got a promotion for it. Everything was tied up way too neatly for that ending, but I did really like the stuff with Mizuki. Hm I think the difference is you see that scene and go "He's the worst I hate him" and mean it but I go "He's the worst I hate him" and i'm laughing cause it's funny how awful he is
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Sep 22, 2019 17:40
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I did the Cure Mizuki route for so for the longest time I was wondering how you combine a maid cafe with an aquatic theme and now I'm on the other route and looking at the maid outfits and it makes sense so  Also, everyone's been pretty good about it, but I'm just going to make this a thread rule in case: USE SPOILER TAGS. This is made by the Zero Escape guy, and I'm expecting some crazy plot twists at some point. Edit: Oh god drat. Mermaids. I just got it 
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Sep 22, 2019 18:04
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Yeah I'm not gonna even talk about late game spoilers even under tags until we at least get off the first page
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Sep 22, 2019 18:14
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I've been trying to remember what AI reminds me of, and now I'm gonna say that it is Snatcher as gently caress
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Sep 22, 2019 18:30
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Regy Rusty posted:Hm I think the difference is you see that scene and go "He's the worst I hate him" and mean it but I go "He's the worst I hate him" and i'm laughing cause it's funny how awful he is I saw this after already having seen the scene where he knocked out Date and ran off with Iris on another route and essentially is the reason she lost her eye. Also I have not gotten far enough in to know for sure, but tbh I'm still expecting him to be in on all that. the steam of him saving her was way too conveniently shot, and it ties into him causing trouble for her just to be the hero.
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Sep 22, 2019 18:35
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Hwurmp posted:I've been trying to remember what AI reminds me of, and now I'm gonna say that it is Snatcher as gently caress
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Sep 22, 2019 18:35
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Question for this thread regarding Ota's route and his mother: I think I've cleared the entire left side of the chart now barring some locks. Does the scene where you visit Ota in the hospital after Psyncing with his mother go any further or is that the end of that branch?
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Sep 22, 2019 18:38
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parara posted:Question for this thread regarding Ota's route and his mother: I think I've cleared the entire left side of the chart now barring some locks. Does the scene where you visit Ota in the hospital after Psyncing with his mother go any further or is that the end of that branch? That's Ota's ending. You should've gotten an achievement for it. SardonicTyrant posted:Date's a bit of a mix of Gillian's casualness and Johnathan's non-stop horniness. Gillian was pretty horny too
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Sep 22, 2019 18:43
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Finished the game but not very specific spoiler-adjacent chat: I think I've seen all the story content but I felt there was at least one pretty important plot point set up but not paid off. Is there a VLR type deal where I have to get 100% completion for a final scene or something?
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Sep 22, 2019 18:43
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How does this compare to the 999 trilogy? I loved VLR (especially the ending), but I thought Zero Time Dilemma was just ok.
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Sep 22, 2019 18:46
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I'm not... too terribly impressed so far? About ten hours in and done a fair chunk, I feel. It's more of a visual novel this time with even fewer gameplay elements than the Zero Escape series and I really liked the hours I spent puzzling in those.
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Sep 22, 2019 18:47
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Elswyyr posted:How does this compare to the 999 trilogy? I loved VLR (especially the ending), but I thought Zero Time Dilemma was just ok. AI is shorter and there are a lot less bizarre-but-interesting conversation tangents. I'd say the characters are some of Uchikoshi's best work, easily on par with 999/VLR. The main plot doesn't come together quite as well, but still better than ZTD's did. Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 18:49
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IMO I would say it's not as good as 999 or VLR, but better than zero time dilemma. Having a more or less fresh start definitely helps the plot. This game's puzzle room-type mechanic is probably the best the "series" has ever done but still isn't what I would call great. As mentioned it's shorter than any of the 999 trilogy games, which actually helps it I think.
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Sep 22, 2019 18:51
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Probably the best thing about the game is that it drops you right into the plot. You have amnesia past six years ago, you're friends with this manager, etc., go solve this murder. Remember how long it took to introduce everyone in VLR and 999?
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Sep 22, 2019 18:59
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No Mods No Masters posted:Finished the game but not very specific spoiler-adjacent chat: If you've seen the dance that's all there is. Otherwise you've missed a branch somewhere. It's pretty straightforward. What did you think didn't get paid off?
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Sep 22, 2019 19:00
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So far the game seems like Zero Escape with the fat cut off, for better or for worse. On the good, there isn't hours of exposition (yet), but it also means you lose a bit of that charm. I don't think I'll be seeing any viscera compared to food for instance, or any die metaphors. Also the puzzle rooms are essentially random guessing most of the time, but because they're so brief I don't really mind that much.
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Sep 22, 2019 19:02
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Regy Rusty posted:If you've seen the dance that's all there is. Otherwise you've missed a branch somewhere. It's pretty straightforward. What did you think didn't get paid off? big rear end spoiler It is possible I missed something, but beyond just saying "parallel worlds" several times it was never really explained to my satisfaction why date had knowledge from other routes at several points, ie 999 morphogenetic field/blick winkel type stuff No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 19:02
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No Mods No Masters posted:big rear end spoiler It is possible I missed something, but beyond just saying "parallel worlds" several times it was never really explained to my satisfaction why date had knowledge from other routes at several points, ie 999 morphogenetic field/blick winkel type stuff Correct, that is just taken as written for this game, it isn't part of the focus of the story so they don't go into it.
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Sep 22, 2019 19:07
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I see. I do find that a little lame considering the game repeatedly calls attention to it as a "mystery" but alas
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Sep 22, 2019 19:08
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On Mizuki's route, there's an empty spot in the flowchart between Days 5 and 6 that's just big enough for another day. What's that about?
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Sep 22, 2019 19:56
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Hwurmp posted:On Mizuki's route, there's an empty spot in the flowchart between Days 5 and 6 that's just big enough for another day. What's that about? My guess is that you go there later when whatever big plot twist this game has shows up
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Sep 22, 2019 19:59
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My god, I have blitzed through this game and I loved it. It’s that Zero Escape storytelling that I love. When parallel worlds start being mentioned, I couldn’t help but go “Oh you!”  This and Fire Emblem are some of my favourite games of the year. Also lol the first route I managed to get ended in a plot lock. I somehow ended up on the route where you destroy Iris’s core and learning about what her deal was. It sort of made the route where you dance to save her in her Somnium all the more awkward and uncomfortable, especially with how the rest of the route goes considering the implications of it all. I want to talk about this game so much but so many spoilers and I don’t want to throw up a classified FBI document on page 1. However, I don’t know how to find those stupid bonus things that you’re supposed to find in Somnium worlds to get the B bonuses. I never had too much difficulty with the Somniums with trial and error. Or maybe I just have weird moon logic thinking. Psychin’ in the Refrain can eat poo poo however. That one is awful. EDIT: I don’t know if I should love her or hate her. She’s a caricature and there are some things that are uncomfortable, but I can’t help but love her and her interactions. I have a soft spot for these characters in these games. The fact that she’s gender neutral and an LGBTQ activist is really awesome. The fact that there are gay/bi characters in this game who aren’t complete caricatures are also really awesome and encouraging. Step forward with regards to Japanese games. jimmydalad fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 20:08
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I will say Date beats out Sigma, Carlos, and 999-era Junpei as a protagonist.
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Sep 22, 2019 20:19
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SardonicTyrant posted:I will say Date beats out Sigma, Carlos, and 999-era Junpei as a protagonist. Honestly, 999 junpei is probably more sympathetic than ZTD Junpei, since ZTD Junpei is kind of a prick. Other than that though, agreed.
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