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The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007




Hows the level design? I'm leaning towards getting this game, cuz it's like dark souls with the ability to endlessly customize builds and waifus, but every time i look at the levels and scenery, they look pretty uninspired.

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pmchem
Jan 21, 2010




The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

Hows the level design? I'm leaning towards getting this game, cuz it's like dark souls with the ability to endlessly customize builds and waifus, but every time i look at the levels and scenery, they look pretty uninspired.

in the first 3 areas, it's like a blend of going through a skyrim dungeon and a dark souls area. enemy variety and exploration is decent enough. scenery is varied and there's some nice visuals; also some (more rare) boring hallways.

you're really here for the graphics, coop, boss fights, cutscenes, and character customization (both in fashion, and in skills/gear). it is a fun game, I am happy with the buy.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

by Reene


Yakumo is a poo poo and I do not like him.

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006




How is the co-op in this game? It's the one thing I haven't really heard people talk about. Is it random people on the internet like Souls or could a friend and I hook up for anime vampire duo adventures?

Luceid
Jan 20, 2005

Buy some freaking medicine.


Potsticker posted:

How is the co-op in this game? It's the one thing I haven't really heard people talk about. Is it random people on the internet like Souls or could a friend and I hook up for anime vampire duo adventures?

You can duo really easily in this. Just set a password and you and a friend can pretty much immediately begin going. You'll have to help each other clear things for progression, though, in regular Souls fashion.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Got to play a bunch. Controls are a bit floaty but there seems to be some protection about rolling off a cliff at least. Otherwise had a good time, games pretty stylish.

DisDisDis
Dec 21, 2013

open your mind

open your heart


Are the items on the little ledges in the drop into the howling pits anything worth grabbing or can i safely skip platforming in a souls game?

e; yeah i fell to my death and then got insta revived at the bottom by my ai partner, just wanna confirm there isn't a snazzy outfit on one of those tiny ledges

DisDisDis fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Sep 28, 2019

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!


Fun Shoe

DisDisDis posted:

Are the items on the little ledges in the drop into the howling pits anything worth grabbing or can i safely skip platforming in a souls game?

You'll need to platform down there at least once. It's not that bad but not really worth it to go for all items. The main thing is to remember that if you go off a cliff, you'll drop straight down from where you left solid ground.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

MAYBE IF MY WEAK NONSENSICAL "BURNS" ARE CONVOLUTED ENOUGH, NOBODY WILL NOTICE THAT IN SPITE OF BEING A CONDESCENDING TAINTSMEAR IN EVERY THREAD I POST IN, I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY INSIGHTFUL OR FUNNY TO SAy.

Game is good, really good. So far playing almost entirely as a Prometheus. I should really try some other blood classes out.

Worst boss for me so far was the Invading Executioner. Slow But it taught me I missed picking up a class (Mercury) and once I had that particular one equipped things went a lot better.

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Sep 28, 2019

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...


Intoluene posted:

You'll need to platform down there at least once. It's not that bad but not really worth it to go for all items. The main thing is to remember that if you go off a cliff, you'll drop straight down from where you left solid ground.

You can roll off to get distance if you need it.

Merilan
Mar 7, 2019



whoever decided anor londo area needed to be this length, jeebus, it's not even difficult it just goes on and on and on and feels like padding

the flashback area is cool though

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

Merilan posted:

whoever decided anor londo area needed to be this length, jeebus, it's not even difficult it just goes on and on and on and feels like padding

the flashback area is cool though

The first part was pretty easy but I sure got turned around in the second. I'm still not sure if I found everything but I did get the vestige.

Drakes
Jul 18, 2007

Why my bullets no hit?

DancingShade posted:

Game is good, really good. So far playing almost entirely as a Prometheus. I should really try some other blood classes out.

Worst boss for me so far was the Invading Executioner. Slow But it taught me I missed picking up a class (Mercury) and once I had that particular one equipped things went a lot better.

That was the boss that made me realize you gain ichor per melee attack not just the drain attack . I think i got too far with the ai buddy just blowing up poo poo for me. I never got to beat on guys to fill my meter much.

Still getting used to the nuances with the game systems.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010



I'm not gonna bang on this drum too hard or put down people who choose to do it but I feel like I should say this at least once: if you use the AI partners all the time you're missing out on a lot of what makes the game so cool. From my experience they make things more than a little easier as they absolutely trivialized the Trials of Blood I was struggling with. The game gives you an incredible amount of tools to work with in its gift system but only demands you engage with it if you're playing solo.

The AI partners are definitely a good feature for if things are getting too difficult but I strongly recommend playing without them most of the time. Save them for if something has you really frustrated.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010



Turtlicious posted:

Where is the Assassin A vestige? I have B C and D, but I completely missed A

Just found this btw, it's in the Howling Pit (makes sense it looks like you tend to find most vestiges of one category in the same area) a little ways past the eagle key door. Very near the fight to get the Moss Covered Key.

Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Sep 28, 2019

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.


I just noticed the stats screen actually shows how much a weapon's attack power will come from its stat scaling.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010



Hatsune Miku

Broken Cog
Dec 28, 2009

We're all friends here


Watching some streams of this, and I have to laugh at how you get these long sentimental scenes with sad music where people are saying goodbye to a loved one or a sibling before they are dramatically turned to stone before your eyes.
Then if you have the proper memories you just cure them immediately.


EVERY TIME

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006




Luceid posted:

You can duo really easily in this. Just set a password and you and a friend can pretty much immediately begin going. You'll have to help each other clear things for progression, though, in regular Souls fashion.

Thanks! Hopefully doing so will be a good middle ground in difficulty between what people are saying is too easy (w/ AI) and rather difficulty (solo).

pmchem
Jan 21, 2010




I think the single thing that annoys me most about this game is that I have to repeatedly click 'search for distress signals' to try and help someone else in coop.

Just let me queue up or click on ground marks like in DkS.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010



Anyone know what, if anything, the Inhibit status effect does to enemies? I tried it out on Miku but I couldn't tell if it had any effect.

That was a cool fight tho.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010



Wow the boss in the other direction was so much easier

Fat_Cow
Dec 12, 2009

Every time I yank a jawbone from a skull and ram it into an eyesocket, I know I'm building a better future.



So I can summon people fine to help me, but when I help others I get randomly kicked off 75% of the time. Is this some sort of dumb firewall issue

Caidin
Oct 28, 2011


Beat that Miku lady everyone seems to have a hard time with and she was about as hard as that dickhole butterfly, started thinking about how I was getting tired of big piles of urban debris above ground and in holes and suddenly BAM! Literally Anor Londo! If as I ask nice can Sen's fortress show up next?

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

how are pc controls and how is multi-player

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

Clunk! Clunk Clunk!

How does this game fare in the exploration department? Does it feel pretty rewarding or is it dull? Thatís my favorite part of dark souls.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.


veni veni veni posted:

How does this game fare in the exploration department? Does it feel pretty rewarding or is it dull? Thatís my favorite part of dark souls.

There's a lot of items you won't find if you don't go exploring, some of them required to unlock skills, and there's Souls-style shortcut opening. Outside of the home base and the "Depths" (optional dungeons you open by finding maps), everything is connected.

After you reach 100% on an area, there are also NPCs who will show up in that area, and they can have shops or short sidequests.

pmchem
Jan 21, 2010




eonwe posted:

how are pc controls and how is multi-player

both are good. coop multiplayer is similar to dark souls but a little rougher around the edges for joining people's games (different interface, go to menu to call or join). you can rebind whatever keys and kb+m play works well.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...


Well, things are "connected", don't get excited about Dark Souls 1 level stuff here. Everything is "connected" through suspiciously long and mostly featureless corridors.

Water Hatsune Miku was a pretty fun fight. I'm glad I took the suggestion from someone here and started playing without the AI companions, they really DO make stuff way too easy, even if I do miss their near constant prattling about random poo poo you see.

Edit: Also I have yet to successfully join someone else's game and am starting to wonder if it's some stupid firewall issue. Every time I search for signals, even with all my settings set to open, I get nothing.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

Clunk! Clunk Clunk!

Yeah, I came two seconds from buying this at the store earlier but I think I'm gonna at least wait for a price drop to try it. Fascinating environments and deep exploration are what really sells me on a game like this, and from the videos I watched it looks a bit bland in that dept. It looks all right otherwise though.

Overwatch Porn
Dec 22, 2006


highly recommend swapping blood codes around a lot, there's a bunch of different playstyles and it's so easy to just try poo poo out. i'm near the end of the game and i have like 26 codes atm and i've barely tried half

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010



Overwatch Porn posted:

highly recommend swapping blood codes around a lot, there's a bunch of different playstyles and it's so easy to just try poo poo out. i'm near the end of the game and i have like 26 codes atm and i've barely tried half

Especially since codes you get later will often have better stats and provide better gifts than ones you get early in the game so you wanna unlock as much as possible.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Think you just need to beat the boss of an area for the NPC to show up. The 100% seems to be for chests and maybe vestiges? I have 100% and I use that scan for drops ability and still see I have things to pick up (that I can never find)

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

by Reene


Game is good so far but drat yakumo referring to io and mia as sheep was both offputting and kind of dumb considering I'm playing as, you know, a woman.

Overwatch Porn
Dec 22, 2006


Rascyc posted:

Think you just need to beat the boss of an area for the NPC to show up. The 100% seems to be for chests and maybe vestiges? I have 100% and I use that scan for drops ability and still see I have things to pick up (that I can never find)

the percentage is only for how much of the map you've revealed (so mistles found)

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

MAYBE IF MY WEAK NONSENSICAL "BURNS" ARE CONVOLUTED ENOUGH, NOBODY WILL NOTICE THAT IN SPITE OF BEING A CONDESCENDING TAINTSMEAR IN EVERY THREAD I POST IN, I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY INSIGHTFUL OR FUNNY TO SAy.

eonwe posted:

how are pc controls and how is multi-player

I haven't yet felt the need to pick up the controller on my desk. Keyboard & mouse pretty snappy. Haven't touched multi player.

Overwatch Porn
Dec 22, 2006


what the gently caress is a "mistle" anyway

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012


Winner of the "Poor Games Poster" avatar.

Does anything from the demo transfer over

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

by Reene


Empress Brosephine posted:

Does anything from the demo transfer over

You can transfer your character's appearance, but no gameplay related things.

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Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012


Winner of the "Poor Games Poster" avatar.

Do you have to play that whole section again?

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