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AceClown
Sep 11, 2005



animatorZed posted:

Wait, did I say unrelated? What happens if you use this pseudo pierce lightning combo in conjunction with the trigger trick?
https://i.imgur.com/N3r8ymE.mp4

Oh. Well, circle complete.


Is the matter eater working as a pseudo piercing shot? if so I never knew that worked the same way!

Edit: The more I think about it the more I think that what's happening is the target dummy is somehow registering as "ground" for the matter eater causing it to multi trigger, I don't think you'll ever get multiple triggers on a normal enemy from that without piercing shot.

2nd Edit: Just copied the wand exactly with spell labs and tested it on ole squiddy and I was right, needs piercing shot to multi trigger.

AceClown fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Sep 25, 2022

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animatorZed
Jan 2, 2008
falling down

AceClown posted:

2nd Edit: Just copied the wand exactly with spell labs and tested it on ole squiddy and I was right, needs piercing shot to multi trigger.

No, the multi hit is due to the lighting bolt. I described it in an earlier post but
increase lifetime, homing, heavy shot lightning bolt is the basic combo. The whole point is that this basically causes pierce without the use of piercing shot and without the potential of killing yourself.

if adding more heavy shots you need to balance it with either some speed ups or use a ping pong path to keep it in the right projectile speed range to prevent it from exploding. I forget exactly what it's called but the inverse gravity modifier also works I think.

drilling shot and matter eater are just for convenience to travel through terrain. and don't affect this property.

e: after testing it again, it seems the behavior of this interaction changed slightly at some point and all you need to trigger the effect now is increase lifetime homing lightning, and adding more heavy shots even with Mu don't cause the projectile to immediately expire anymore due to moving to slowly. Not sure when that changed but I've been using this combo since pre 1.0 so it's possible that something to due with speed thresholds has changed since then.

e2: actually it seems heavy shots are still required to slow it down in most cases although the latter point of multiple heavy shots no longer killing the projectile stands. What was happening is that if the lightning bolt hits or is spawned against a wall (eg from spark bolt timer/trigger) this also sometimes reduces the speed into the right range.

e3: recorded a quick video to explain better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23mucDz1Vk

animatorZed fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Sep 25, 2022

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013



https://i.imgur.com/I5sFIh4.mp4

the run that this happened on is still ongoing. i've plundered several PW's and am now in new game plus and took all of the perks from the main world's holy mountains. i have a pretty good game going but trying to decide what to do next

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013



https://i.imgur.com/vBYv4jH.mp4
run still going, i got all immunities + gas fire so very little can touch me, i'm almost certainly going to die to polymorphine. the explosions are from a rapid cast meteor + nolla + concentrated explosion piled onto some explosive crates, this creates a lot of trick gold

https://i.imgur.com/Ik15TxK.mp4
also found the kick perk

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010





Bread Liar

never skip leg day is a great perk and it gets even better if you stack several copies of it

with enough resistances and health you can just waltz up to a hiisi and literally punt him into gibs

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013



Zamujasa posted:

never skip leg day is a great perk and it gets even better if you stack several copies of it

with enough resistances and health you can just waltz up to a hiisi and literally punt him into gibs

https://i.imgur.com/68mbm58.mp4

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013



https://i.imgur.com/XAtaL7x.mp4

my angry ghost has found a spell it likes

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Shibawanko posted:

https://i.imgur.com/XAtaL7x.mp4

my angry ghost has found a spell it likes

Oh they hunger, how they hunger

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007



Shibawanko posted:

https://i.imgur.com/XAtaL7x.mp4

my angry ghost has found a spell it likes

Watching this video is giving me the same kind of anxiety that I get when a wasp keeps coming right up to me and won't go away.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010





Bread Liar

The Noita wiki posted:

The disk travels more slowly than the Giga Disk Projectile and therefore the Projectile Repulsion perk is enough to stop the self-homing effect of this spell, as long as the player is stationary. It will suspend at a safe but uncomfortably close distance, but moving toward or away from it can get close enough to damage the player.


"safe but uncomfortably close"

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013



Zamujasa posted:

"safe but uncomfortably close"

i have several stacked repulsion fields and a projectile slower and it's still a butt clencher. it seems to be safe for me to move at full speed though

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RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great


Shibawanko posted:

it seems to be safe for me to
This should be engraved on every noita's tombstone.

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