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MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!



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goferchan
Feb 8, 2004



petcarcharodon posted:


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Lmao oh my god

Hempuli
Nov 15, 2011



Sultan Tarquin posted:

This was 2 feet into the very first zone though. The fog wouldn't stay revealed and there was only a small amount of light around me. Also I just kicked a hand and it got quite cross at me.

It's one of the new biome modifiers; essentially a random additional effect to spice up the areas a bit.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X


Yeah, not being able to see jackshit really spices up my video game experience let me tell you.

e: I don't mean to be hard on you because Noita is a loving amazing game, but loving with the player's ability to, y'know, see what the hell is going on is (a) just making the game less fun, and (b) especially bad in Noita where seeing the amazing and hilarious poo poo that can happen to the environment all around you is 71% of the experience.

pointsofdata
Apr 25, 2011



Glass cannon + unlimited spells = fun times

e: killed myself attacking a rat

dyzzy
Dec 22, 2009

argh


pointsofdata posted:

Glass cannon + unlimited spells = fun times

e: killed myself attacking a rat

This thread in a nutshell

So the thing in the ice caves chasm... does it have a damage type weakness or are you just meant to avoid it until you are at ng+ power levels

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

Is it only me that feels fungal caverns aren't worth even visitng any more. The quality of wands vs the strength of the monsters, plus now the new humid modifier means that if you get lucky and find a black hole to crack into the steel encased wands they go about 2 milimetres, plus the wand is going to suck.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT, EAT BRAINS ALL DAY



I love love love this game but I legit do not understand anything about aside from "find wands, kill dude, pray I get to the portal".

Then again, I felt like that with Binding of Isaac and I got Plat on that one.

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007



dyzzy posted:

This thread in a nutshell

So the thing in the ice caves chasm... does it have a damage type weakness or are you just meant to avoid it until you are at ng+ power levels

It's got some kind of fractional damage multiplier and only lets a damage instance in every 2 seconds or so, but also only has, I'm going to guess, something like 300 hp. It takes a long time to kill it using a low damage machine gun wand, but damage boosts on a high damage projectile are a little better. It's dangerous though with the explosives spam and the status effect shots

And trigger shots are pretty useless because you just get the spark bolt damage and the payload is ignored.

resistentialism fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Oct 19, 2020

pointsofdata
Apr 25, 2011



I found a wand which cast a huge number of bubbles but it also had the gunpowder links thing and it destroyed my frame rate. I think it makes the links between every pair, not just a single link? I couldn't really see past the particle effects.

Like most cool wands it killed enemies pretty effectively. I found if I hovered above them I tended to set myself on fire less, the bubbles wandered around a lot though

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~


Eric the Mauve posted:

Yeah, not being able to see jackshit really spices up my video game experience let me tell you.

e: I don't mean to be hard on you because Noita is a loving amazing game, but loving with the player's ability to, y'know, see what the hell is going on is (a) just making the game less fun, and (b) especially bad in Noita where seeing the amazing and hilarious poo poo that can happen to the environment all around you is 71% of the experience.

I liked it in the first zone, but I could see it being annoying later on.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

Do the gods get mad at you for taking too long? I was just in the temple after the underground jungle experimenting with wands, having not even taken the perk or had any abilitiy or spells to destroy the temple bricks when the game just got mad at me for no reason. Wait I think those green balls with legs somehow buried their way down here??

Sultan Tarquin fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Oct 19, 2020

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?

Ramrod XTreme

Sultan Tarquin posted:

Do the gods get mad at you for taking too long? I was just in the temple after the underground jungle experimenting with wands, having not even taken the perk or had any abilitiy or spells to destroy the temple bricks when the game just got mad at me for no reason. Wait I think those green balls with legs somehow buried their way down here??

Yeah the green spiders will trigger the gods being angry because they dig into the temple area.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

Naughty spider fucks.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

I WILL DERAIL ANY THREAD TO DEFEND PEOPLE WHO CHEAT ON THEIR SPOUSES BECAUSE I THINK THEY CAN DO NO WRONG. DO NOT LISTEN TO ME. I AM FUCKING STUPID.


Fun Shoe

if i remember right the gods get pissed if the temple is damaged, period, and since all instances of the temple also exist in the world there is a slim chance that some random critter blew something up close to the temple wall.

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great


Wasnt there a protection crystal added explicitely to stop random worms from angering the gods and ending runs constantly in the beta?

Tho ive seen gods being angered on a few streams with the crystal intact and the player still juggling spells in the inventory, so theres probably something else being wonky.

Clark Nova
Jul 17, 2004



The worm crystal isn't 100% effective against worms and there are other things (jungle spiders, acid spewers, a hisii with a nuke, wand just to name a few) that'll gently caress up a temple

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

Hubris

Fun Shoe

Basically, there's no guarantee that you won't have your quiet time in the temple rudely interrupted by some critter, and the devs have presumably decided that they're OK with that.

Dumlefudge
Feb 25, 2013


petcarcharodon posted:


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm kinda dumb when it comes to the details of the rogue-like genre, but isn't it rogue-lites that bring persistence and carry-over to the table?

Chev
Jul 19, 2010


Switchblade Switcharoo

Without going into tying the mechanic to a specific sub-denomination, it's definitely a more modern element meant to give a more concrete sense of progression to newcomers.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

Hubris

Fun Shoe

Dumlefudge posted:

I'm kinda dumb when it comes to the details of the rogue-like genre, but isn't it rogue-lites that bring persistence and carry-over to the table?

The word "roguelike" now has two definitions: the definition it had for like 25 years prior to 2010 or so, and the new definition which is basically "procedural generation, permadeath, and metaprogression". Language being what it is, neither definition is wrong (unless you're a linguistic prescriptivist, in which case uh good luck) but they definitely come into conflict sometimes.

BARONS CYBER SKULL
Jun 19, 2004

A Final Rest






https://i.imgur.com/si9Ul53.mp4

piss

nightwisher
Dec 24, 2004


Oh cool, release! Now that the pace of updates is presumably slowing down, I feel motivated to dive deep back into modding the game. It was quite disheartening (though 100% understandable given early access) to spend dozens of hours working on a mod only to have a new update break everything I jerry-rigged together. I have a vision of a grand-scale, more action-adventure focused world with high non-linearity, a sense of long-term player progression and lots of secrets to find.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD





took them and their riches with you, at least

tildes
Nov 15, 2018


Unlimited spells + water breathing + the auto electrocute perk + the raincloud spell is amazing. You just slowly drown the entire level, then go collect whatever is left. (And then accidentally set off a bomb with the electrocute and kill yourself).

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010





Bread Liar

I hope some day there's an option to just make all the wands stupid and random. I know the Mines originally had a lot of limited-generation wands that were utter garbage and there was a mod or something that would replace those with actual random ones.

A lot of the fun in this is making incredibly stupid wands that killed everything (including you) and it feels like you might as well skip the first two areas and pray you get something decent in the third.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006


TIL that it's possible to shoot spark bolts fast enough to dig with them

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004



dis astranagant posted:

TIL that it's possible to shoot spark bolts fast enough to dig with them



need to see that with glass cannon

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006


Will living on the edge + berserkium do?



It doesn't seem to dig stone but it'll dig dirt and ice.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004



dis astranagant posted:

Will living on the edge + berserkium do?



It doesn't seem to dig stone but it'll dig dirt and ice.

drat that's relatively simple but still one of the coolest and cleanest visual effects I've seen in this game. Thank you for delivering!

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006


It's a quad cast wand with 3 spark bolts and increase mana + luminous drill, hitting the minimum recharge time. Super simple but it's still shredding enemies in the jungle.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000



Huh, Id always tossed spark bolts as soon as I found something else, never considered that modifiers could keep them relevant past the coal mines or ice caves

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015






https://i.imgur.com/nll9w1r.mp4 mistakes were made

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007



I reset the game so I'd have 1.0 stats only.

Are things actually gated behind unlocks? The fun and interesting things I was finding pre reset mines to ice are all gone.

dyzzy
Dec 22, 2009

argh


There are some spells that have to be found once first iirc. Some come from the orbs, others from secrets

Der Shovel
Dec 26, 2003

Pause post!


Don't drink and buzzsaw.

https://i.imgur.com/jKoINQe.mp4

Also, I have weaponized bees.

https://i.imgur.com/KJ7s8qq.mp4

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.



Has anyone managed to put saw blades on the end of tentacles yet?

I dunno, just seemed like a sensible thing for a witch to do, like, right after drinking some lava.

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Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!


I've done it.

It hilariously still remains a threat to you.

Also, second post above me: I don't get it? I see only another buzzsaw??

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