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OwlFancier posted:I still think some sort of meta progression would help. yeah this is like dead cells, right? let me throw currency at things in the Holy Mountain where I sacrifice money on my current run to allow a little more flexibility or guarantees in the future I feel like the biggest problem i run into is getting bad rng with spells/wands where i can't keep up with the difficulty spike at level 3 because my damage just hasn't scaled fast enough.
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Oct 7, 2019 15:14
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Victory Position posted:there's a modifier that you can add to your projectiles that allows them to freeze whatever they come into contact with i just got this and it's maybe too good, since you can chain freeze mobs to death, it negates annoying environmental hazards (the firefly things don't spew lava, acid things don't spew acid when they die frozen, etc), and the mana cost is low enough nearly any wand can afford it.
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Oct 12, 2019 05:08
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Qylvaran posted:Same. The first two levels are mostly lame, but you pretty much have to painstakingly scour them for hp+, gold, AND a good wand to have fun with and survive going forward because you can't necessarily count on the shop to have anything useful. so far I really like the feeling this game has where mostly you can understand the mistakes you made and it's not pure randomness that kills you. but the combination of the slow start plus some absolute randomness, is very frustrating right now. i was better kitted out than i've been in a while after level two, only to have a giant worm fly straight up through the new crystal that's supposed to repel them, angering the gods, and spawning the protector lich right on top of me. that kind of randomness sucks especially when getting a good start can take so long without some luck. at least they're working on fixing this problem -- it's just the crystal room thing apparently either doesn't work or doesn't account for worms just having a lot of built up velocity so they can't turn to avoid it?
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Oct 12, 2019 19:19
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Bad Munki posted:Can someone give me a rundown of how setting up the effects on wands, uhhhhhhhh, works? I thought I was starting to get it, but then I go and configure a wand with a few things and it 100% doesn't do what I expect, and I'm kinda baffled. Like I've got a spell that triggers another spell after a timer, and then another of that, and then a splitter that casts two spells, and a couple more of the timers, and in some configurations it makes sense, but in others, it seems like it just stops after the first spell? it would be great if eventually the UI gets updated to reflect what the output of a wand will actually be, rather than forcing us to mess around with ordering modifiers and effects and spells and then casting it and hoping it works like we think it does. they could probably do this cleverly with some kind of highlighting or shading scheme to show which spells which effects apply to or something along those lines
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Oct 14, 2019 14:42
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been playing around with the mod that gives you a choice of one of three random perks (exactly like the holy mountain) at the start of the game, and it's Good like, just a little more variety makes the beginning a lot less repetitive
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Oct 15, 2019 23:30
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Stoca Zola posted:Where's the best place for Noita bug reports? the discord is pretty active and probably the best place to post them, there's a channel there for that purpose
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Oct 18, 2019 14:39
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Armadillo Tank posted:Yeah what the gently caress. Why can't I pet ducks/deer/jet pack goblins or have a wand with an animal pets spell? you can get a Decoy Deer wand tho
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Oct 20, 2019 01:48
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Cardiovorax posted:I've had a mimic spawn in a completely regular hallway in the mushroom cave biome, so I don't think that's a hard rule, they're just more likely to appear in that particular setpiece. yeah they're rare but i've seen them without the obvious 'unnatural floating' thing that warns you there
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Oct 20, 2019 22:24
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BBJoey posted:On the other hand, freeze field and electricity are trap perks with negligible upsides that will kill you. i've had some good luck with freeze field, which nullifies some environmental hassles in very convenient ways. biggest problem, for me, is the whole "freezes particles in mid-air which do not fall" part can seriously reduce your mobility that's nothing compared to how bad electricity is when it comes to exploding everything that can be exploded anywhere near you and also constantly starting fires everywhere
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Oct 21, 2019 11:47
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Cardiovorax posted:I want a spell that is just you growing eight of those spider legs and stabbing fools with them. same except (1) more tentacles (2) drag yourself around with them doc ock style
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Oct 24, 2019 15:48
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i like the lava bees, they're not hard per se but they force interesting environmental interactions and force you to move in ways you don't want to. they're a fun hazard unlike, say, getting sniped from offscreen, which isn't really that dangerous or interesting, just an annoyance that slows you down
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Oct 28, 2019 23:48
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I learned that if you slot decoy deer onto a fast chainsaw wand, it can create an interaction where the deer blows up the second it spawns and the body is launched forward at incredible speeds unfortunately the corpse is not a physics object that can damage enemies, and i hope this bug is fixed
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Oct 30, 2019 17:40
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Speaking of glass cannon, this is your irregular reminder that if you have it, be very careful with using bombs to dig. glass cannon (without explosion immunity) is like an elaborate test of how much you can remember to not use anything more explosive than a magic missile and i always fail
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Nov 3, 2019 18:06
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Hm...water mage start? Breathless + Fast Swimmer perks, start with a bouncy ball with water trail and a raincloud. having a build whose whole goal was to convert everything to water biomes would be a lot of fun! do most of the enemies in the game drown right now? i've never actually tried it
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Nov 8, 2019 16:48
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Cardiovorax posted:It's of very limited use and does basically nothing that I am aware of except in the cases of Vampire perk + blood.  sometimes a witch just needs to drink tens of gallons of worm blood
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Nov 8, 2019 17:42
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Bad Munki posted:I used it to drain the tree once so I could get up in it without drowning. eke out posted:
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Nov 8, 2019 18:06
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I feel like at that point you start having to dig through each holy mountain so you can backtrack to spell caches you've set up previously. i watched a video of someone doing The Tower the other day and it seems like that's what they're working towards. because you can go from the final boss, to the tower, then climb out through basically a gauntlet until you get to the portal that takes you back to the top of the mountain. doesn't completely address the issue, but definitely gives you another major no-black-hole-needed route back up
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Nov 9, 2019 00:35
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feature request: lightning witch starts with water flask fire witch: endless flood of oil i stand in the middle of as everything burns but me lightning witch: everything explodes around me and constant catches fire; i have no way of putting it out if i get bad rng; all my spells can kill me eke out fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Nov 14, 2019 05:24
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Yeah, this is a weird one. Fire witch starts with two fire flasks which can be used for removing stains (pour out fire, stand in fire, stains gradually dry up). I still often end up emptying one out to fill with water so I can clear toxic waste pools, but the flasks are at least useful. Lightning witch starts with a thunderstone that is basically useless. You can throw it at enemies to kill them, but its electrocution properties are of debatable value; it's pretty rare that I want to be able to electrify a pool from a distance and can't just, like, shoot it with a lightning bolt. And meanwhile you have zero ability to clear stains beyond getting lucky with convenient pools / finding an early flask. come to think of it, an alternative would be to just give Lightning Witch explosion immunity. you'd still have to be careful, but wouldn't accidentally instagib yourself - and this would be an analogous advantage to what Fire Witch has, where fire immunity means they can't kill themselves out of sheer stupidity, but they still have to be careful about explosions.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:24
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yeah y'all are right. tbh just switching Electricity for Electricity Immunity would be enough to fix the balance problems. or toning down the radius on electricity's damage. it's just a bad perk right now i suppose the tradeoff is that starting with Lightning is huge, and that spell can carry you to the endgame, it's just not worth the annoyance as it stands. TooMuchAbstraction posted:Explosion Immunity is very useful to lightning witch, no question. You can use the static lightning explosion spell directly on a wand (with no triggers) and it really has a shockingly huge range, so you can just wander around blowing yourself and your enemies up repeatedly. But I think that's solving the wrong problem. Lightning Witch is a high risk / high reward class, with lots of power but high chance of killing yourself, and that's fine. What's not great is that the class has no way to deal with stains until you find a flask and replace its contents with water. The class should get a flask of water for the same reason the unmodded base class starts with one: it's basic equipment that makes the stain system not completely maddening to interact with. simple solution: lightning flasks that i can use to remove stains from myself
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Nov 14, 2019 18:30
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:It is difficult to overstate how utterly maddening it is to play as a class that starts with no ability to interact with their environment beyond physics objects, which cannot explode crates/barrels or set fires. you can pick it up in the frame or two between when you turn back into yourself and when you get polymorphed again, just mash quickly. not exactly optimal but i've done it before
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Nov 14, 2019 18:53
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bloom posted:Plague rats and a pool of chaotic polymorphine sure is something oh my god i didn't even think about this, i want to do it on purpose plague rats is so great
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Nov 14, 2019 23:25
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the risk/reward of fungal caves is extremely good and fun, it's always exciting to try to venture in far enough to grab what you can while trying to avoid the extreme danger
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Nov 17, 2019 18:06
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they could just pull a Dead Cells and incentivize running through the levels fast, rather than exploring for every last heart pickup, with time-gated bonuses in the Holy Mountains guarantee a free random wand of a competitive level or something
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Nov 20, 2019 21:51
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Cardiovorax posted:Oh my god, this is the most amazing thing. Lukki Perk Spiderwalk mod: https://modworkshop.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=26010#description this is really, really fun to play with. i'm sure it's a touch op (it seems like movespeed is too fast sometimes) but it's legit cool to alter your strategies knowing you can hang anywhere but can't operate at all in big open spaces, since you can't actually jetpack anymore and must be within a certain range of a wall
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Nov 23, 2019 17:50
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Next time you roll a fire mage, try to play the first level mostly by sprinkling your fire flasks on enemies; you should see the change in behavior. They'll mostly just run back and forth, or if they can fly, fly towards the closest body of liquid. speaking of, i learned today that fire mage has incredible synergy with invis, because you can effortlessly burn away whatever stains you pick up
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Nov 27, 2019 17:05
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oh poo poo just learned there's now a Butcher Magician starting path, awesome
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Nov 30, 2019 00:08
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Summon Giga Disc is my new favorite spell. I'm pretty sure the way it works is that it goes forward until it bounces / runs out of velocity, then it starts homing in on the closest valid target, and it isn't picky about whether that target is you. I've seen it take some pretty funky paths. oh is that how it works? I've only got it once and, at the time, i assumed it basically rebounded back in a line from wherever it was shot (rather than homing on you) i didn't try it out more than a couple times because all my noita instincts screamed "you will inevitably kill yourself with this"
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am I the only one having like, a lot of crashes? maybe it's because I'm on the beta branch but it's gotten more unstable for me eke out fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Dec 4, 2019 04:19
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dyzzy posted:Yeah idk what that dude was talking about, healing outside of holy mountains is incredibly hard to come by. it does seem like some patch broke them - you used to have to kick them and slowly deplete their health (or have berserkium) but now they just follow me around and heal me so long as i kill any other enemies
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Dec 8, 2019 17:44
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Cardiovorax posted:But not all of them. I recently drank a bottle of fire and it actually gave me damaging heartburn until I drank some water to balance it out. it seems like drinking from environmental sources doesn't have the same damage effect as drinking potions? they should make it so if you're ____ blooded, said thing doesn't harm you
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Dec 11, 2019 20:14
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Dizz posted:One thing I wish the Holy Mountain did was keep giving you health/spell refreshes until you leave. Experimenting is limited when you're using spells with limited numbers, and getting damaged by anything stays until you get to the next safe spot. i think it would be a reasonable balance change to turn off friendly fire while in the holy mountain. or allow unlimited health refreshes, though that might not solve the "what does this spell do? oh i just died instantly" issue while it can be very funny to accidentally kill yourself, it's probably also causing some people to bounce off the game when a not-explained-at-all wand system with totally useless UI ruins their progress. there are plenty of other sources of "be careful with what wand you choose to shoot" lessons in this game without also having them in the only area you can freely edit i don't think this is by any means a huge problem, but it seems like tweaking the holy mountain would be dead simple in terms of how much work is involved and could remove some frustration
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Dec 12, 2019 00:00
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CodfishCartographer posted:Today I learned that the Electrified perk isn't quite as good as I thought it was. yeah electrified is definitely way more flaw than perk lol
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Dec 12, 2019 23:37
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Yeah, I always figured the health refill is for after climbing The Tower. or if level 3 goes poorly/you feel undergeared and you didn't get a chance to explore the fungal caverns, climbing up and grabbing that orb can be a good backup
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Dec 16, 2019 16:59
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-SD- posted:Snowy Update is out. i do not like the look of that cluster of baby spiders one bit
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Dec 19, 2019 18:17
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jaete posted:Explored a bit more but was taking too much damage from everything as always, so took the exit portal. Had a second nuke left, tried to kill Skeleton Steve with it... unsuccessful. probably the single blast just neutralized his shield
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Dec 19, 2019 23:12
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Not sure how he survived but welp. Other wands not good enough to kill him. :noita:
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TeaJay posted:A big benefit of Edit wands anywhere mod is to be able to switch the spells on the two starting wands around and be somewhat equipped for the first two levels even if you don't find any good wands there. yeah I agree - it obviously makes the game easier, but the game is extremely hard and many people run into a huge wall when getting started and aren't able to get far enough to develop good instincts about what kind of wands work/what to look for/how to deal with mobs at ice cave and beyond. EWE helps solve that problem by taking away one big obstacle to getting good wands, while leaving everything else the same. it may not be the Intended Experience or whatever but who gives a poo poo
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Dec 30, 2019 16:22
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trip report: i've never seen this modifier or the piercing one before and they're a ton of fun with concentrated light and explosion immunity e: (ignore that errant energy orb at the end)
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any True Noita takes glass cannon every time it comes up, with the understanding that you will most likely die gloriously as a result
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