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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > "'The Good Place Season 4 - "It's okay to be sad"
 
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cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
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I think the door is a metaphor for the show killing itself because it ran out of jokes.

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cosmicjim
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The last episode and much of end was no longer about philosophical decisions but about writing decisions. Philosophy couldn’t help them with what happens in Heaven or Hell. The door wasn’t philosophical. The door was a character development tool. The most important thing about the door was displaying that Chidi could make decisive impactful choices. The door set up the scenario for Jason to actually live as a monk. The door let Eleanor end as a cosmic good instead of the bad person she lived her life as. Tahani ended the show helping others altruistically instead of helping others for selfish reasons. I think wrapping this show and giving 3 out 4 of them permanent endings caused my angst because it gave us an ending that I didn’t feel fit with the rest of the show.

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cosmicjim
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Whether or not we succeed in achieving immortality doesn't change Android's points.

It's a euthanasia door.

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cosmicjim
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Ishamael posted:

I do.

First, that will never happen. Creating immortality through science will never occur.

Second, death is part of life. Literally everything dies, even the universe itself. Painting death as bad is just turning a natural process into a moral evil, which is arbitrary and unhealthy.

Death is neither good nor bad, it just is. But how we face death can be a good, if we can learn to process it in a healthy way that helps to drive us to do good for others.

You are correct death is neither good or bad. But also this fits with nothing matters. Might as well kill yourself.

Being certain that indefinite lifespans can't happen through science seems extremely naive.

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luxury handset posted:

really doubting your command of philosophy both material and abstract, here

as thought experiments go "nobody HAS to die" requires a tremendous amount of fantastical assumptions like "also we will ban inequality" and "matter replicators can make food" in order to make it anything other than a complete nightmare

That was a very polite way of calling me stupid.
I’m trying to be as brief as possible, because our long posts in this thread are pretty boring. I understand these philosophies. Philosophies are ultimately opinions. I think there is currently too much debating about apples and oranges. Whether science can extend lifespans indefinitely is not a philosophical discussion. Answering the question whether we should or not is the answer to a different question.
I don’t have any convictions whether or not we should. I just agree with the dude that disagrees with romanticizing death, but that’s still an opinion. The more I learn about different philosophies the more I’m convinced nothing matters (with the belief we do not have a creator with a deliberate purpose for us). It’s fine to disagree, but if you assign a purpose to life, it is much like applying a moral code to society. To elaborate on that would make this even more boring than it already is. If you don’t think this was boring I don’t mind typing a lot more.

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cosmicjim
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He said basically said what you said. The answer is no because nothing "needs" anything...This is the response to the posters implying we need death or just need to stop fighting it.

I'm going to make the assumption that this is just about "natural causes." That doesn't really change anything about the argument, assuming you can be killed "unnaturally."

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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > "'The Good Place Season 4 - "It's okay to be sad"