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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Cemetry Gator posted:

When is someone going to finally say "you know what? You've convinced me, I was wrong?"

I feel like the danger with a show that had one really amazing twist is that everyone gets hooked on the twist, but they missed the execution.

In the first season, finding out that they were in the bad place made perfect sense and it built on all the previous events. The story you watched was still the same, it's just that something more was added to it.

A bad twist would undermine the events you watched, and just be a fake out just to be a fake out.

There's too many scenes where Michael is genuine with Eleanor that him being an imposter requires you to come up with a reason why he would do the things he did.

I think one of the themes of this episode is that goodness is something that you have to keep working towards. Eleanor is facing a new test, and she reverted to old behaviors. But she had changed - she realized what she was doing was wrong and why.

I mean, we can try to construct twists, but haven't you learned anything from the first two episodes and Sylvia? This may all be fake, but it appears real. Shouldn't we act as if it is?

This is why i really like the theory from a whole back that its Vicky in the Michael suit who commits to the role and ends up turning good. It means we can still have his impassioned speeches be genuine, and fits with the shows "fake it til you make it" morality

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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

boo_radley posted:

Get your best " This is the bad place!" reaction gifs ready: https://www.cbr.com/the-good-places-first-funko-pops-frozen-yogurt/

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

tsob posted:

Are there any other type of philosophers that people keep referring specifically to moral one's Being the type people don't like? Do people like those other ones? Are there immoral philosophers?

The recently departed Roger Scruton was apparently a big deal in aesthetic philosophy and the philosophy of sexuality.

https://twitter.com/hannahrosewoods/status/1216679355319029761

Yeah.....don't think anybody likes him either

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

I feel like the suicide door has to reincarnate you. Partly because I never bought into "life only has meaning because it ends" but also because an afterlife that gives you a well earned rest before returning you to your earthly struggles as you ascend to sainthood sounds pretty awesome.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Undead Hippo posted:

"There is a door, and if you enter it you cease to exist."
"There is a door, and if you enter it your consciousness is erased and you are given an entirely new physical being, located in a different place with no continuity with your past incarnation."

Seems like splitting hairs really.

Eh, reincarnation implies a continuity of some kind of basic essence, so there's definitely a difference. Especially the way the show treats the reboots (full reboots or partial) as still meaningfully the same as the original.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Rabbi Raccoon posted:

I feel like if reincarnation was a thing in this universe, it would have been mentioned already

Yeah, I'm predicting that they'll invent it.


Ishamael posted:

And "Death gives life meaning" is not a platitude, it is literally the truth. There will never be a version of human life without death, so it is just a basic fact. That we can try to imagine what it might be like to live forever doesn't make it true, so the fact will always exist that death is part of life, and part of what gives it form and purpose.

That means death has some contribution to life's meaning, but its often used to mean "Death allows life to find a purpose" which comes awfully close to saying that death is a good thing. Yeah, the finality of peoples existence is a huge deal, but death loving sucks.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

socialsecurity posted:

I'm not sure how all these reincarnation supporters want this to go. So you are in the Good Place and go through the reincarnation door, you are reborn on Earth and live a different live not knowing about your one from before, you die again. Now this new person who lived a different life do they get unwillingly merged with who they were before?

Exactly like the partial reboots they described last episode. It's a "new" you, but a little core part of your personality carries over.

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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Jerusalem posted:

Also while Jason deciding to be an eternal monk would have been neat, it means we would have lost,"CHIDI, WAIT UP!" and that's not a universe that should exist :colbert:

Counterpoint: He didn't shout "BORTLES!" as he ran through the door, and that's a travesty.

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