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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Besides, he's in the bad place, chewed too loudly.

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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Oh my mistake

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




https://twitter.com/nbcthegoodplace/status/1222262589855424512

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




ashpanash posted:

"The good place was the suicide we committed once we got bored we made along the way."

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Lutha Mahtin posted:

For those of you who can watch it live on NBC, there's going to be a live interview of the cast after the episode :)

(This is Mike Schur's Twitter account:)
https://twitter.com/kentremendous/status/1222925377682792448?s=21

That's going to be on Hulu next day too right?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

Same.

I was skeptical of the door at first too, but I think what made me come around on it was watching all of the "going-away parties", as it were, when each of the characters said they were ready. Nobody just went "welp, bye," and disappeared; they all put on big celebrations of their lives with all of their closest friends and loved ones, and each party was perfect for who they were. Even here on Earth, I can think of no more perfect end to my existence than being surrounded by and reminiscing with everyone I love, none of them wanting me to leave and at the same time understanding that I have to go. With that kind of ending, the door isn't death, it's just going to another place.

The other thing that helped me come around on it was Chidi's departure, because he made it clear that the door isn't just a personal decision. It was never stated outright, but I think the implication was pretty heavy that even when Chidi felt ready, he was never going to go through the door until he knew that Eleanor was ready for him to leave. He said he'd been ready for awhile, but it was clear to me that he was willing to stay for Eleanor's sake for as long as it took, and he only left once she reached her peace with it. At that point the door stopped being a selfish, personal decision and became a communal thing, which took away the rest of the sting. There was sadness when Chidi left, but there was also acceptance from those around him. If death has to exist, then that, in my mind, is how death should be.

Michael was gonna and it didn't work!

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




I kinda feel like I should trust the moral philosophers who consulted on the show to have had enough input on the finale to make it consistent?

I certainly haven't read any philosophy, nor will I in all probability.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Agronox posted:

Yeah, tbh she overacts here as if she’s still on SNL playing to the cheap seats. Drags down every scene she’s in on TGP. It’s really weird because as you say she’s good elsewhere.

For a contrary opinion, I think her scenes on TGP are great.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Undead Hippo posted:

Humans die, then go through a system of refinement and improvement until they have become the best version of themselves. Then go to a holiday resort for a few thousands years. Then choose to fade into nothingness.

What is the point of the afterlife at all? Why not just have humans fade into nothingness when they die? Why not start with the door? Who does all the loving about in the middle actually help?

Because maybe a hundred (or less, or maybe a little more) years isn't long enough to really experience reality, but eternity is too long? That's what I interpreted it as, anyway.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




I can't remember; was Gen made up of hydrogen or was she just named after it?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Or maybe everyone would eventually become maximal Derek.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




ZZZorcerer posted:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ...
and 100, 101, 102, ...

are both infinite and the same size :eng101:

And going through the door is shown as transcending the human form and becoming one with the universe and sharing all your goodness with every other human, how is that self centered/suicide/leaving people behind etc. ?

And in fact so are 2, 4, 6... and ...-4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2... and all rational numbers.

Ah aleph naught, my old friend.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




So is it okay if the writers basically said hey this is what happened to these people...use your imagination if you want more"?

Since that's basically what most writers do for most stories.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Wait why are people assuming tahani is the only human who ever gets to join the staff?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




The lack of resentment might be related to the calendar though, yowza.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




PASS THE MASH posted:

This related to nothing but you should read Brandon Sanderson’s stuff because his brain works the same way as yours

I actually meant to say something about the difference between robust magic systems like he writes and plot magic systems like what gandalf does, and why stories that use the latter don't actually work for you if you want to pretend they're the former.

I read an article about it but I can't remember where.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




I gotta say I'm pretty sad about no episode tonight.

Okay okay yeah we started rewatching and got through the first four episodes.

Eleanor was clearly so much more attracted to Tahani though.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS





Yeah I saw that. Very good follow on Twitter by the by.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




CarlosTheDwarf posted:

Tahani and Jason were too weak to be main or even regular characters.

Strongly disagree!

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




pseudosavior posted:

It's fuckin Battlestar Galactica all over again.

Okay yeah but the final season of bsg really was subpar.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




christmas boots posted:

BSG would have been massively improved if it ended with someone saying take it sleazy

Are there *any* shows that wouldn't be improved with that as their last line?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




She even said that in the first episode.

"It's not like I killed anyone, I'm just a medium person, I should get to go to a medium place"

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Azhais posted:

I dunno, she probably killed lots of people with those fake drugs for old people scams

And chidi with the almond milk causing droughts, yes.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




WSAENOTSOCK posted:

Cinema Sins has set art criticism back by like three hundred years and convinced people that being media illiterate is not only just as good as being media literate; it's better.

No idea what that is, can you explain?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Those are the same statement.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Just got to chidis choice on the rewatch.

"It's my three favorite yogurts" I think will remain my favorite line from the show.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




All of those are amazing of course, but one of Netflix's images for the show was three cups of yogurt and that just sticks with me.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




The_Doctor posted:

The Good Place - a show about 4 people who complained to management because they felt they were being treated unfairly by the staff.

And then management tried to punt it off over and over and then eventually quit and made someone else do all the work.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




BigBallChunkyTime posted:

I wonder where the Good Place counsel ever escaped to

We all do.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Honestly Vicki might be our favorite character of the not main 6; she's just so earnest in her acting.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Still a little mad they didn't manage to get stone cold on for a tiny cameo.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Oasx posted:

It is my experience that a lot of people didn't actually understand the ending of Lost, even though it was fairly simple.

I have an explanation for the ending of lost, but it is too long to fit in this post.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Yeah I was also kinda hoping for xenosaga/golden compass but was pretty sure they were not going to go that route.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




The_Doctor posted:

Finished the podcast. “I’m Marc Evan Jackson. I played Shawn.” :gbsmith:

Is it worth listening to the whole archives? If I'm looking for time to fill.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Thranguy posted:

Long term memory must have a hard limit somewhere.

Howard Taylor actually went into this exact thing in Schlock Mercenary. "Eventually less was deemed new enough to warrant being put into long term memory. Soon, years went by without notice, and life started to lose meaning and value, at which point people had more wars."

Then sci fi uploaded minds to a computer, etc etc.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




I'm listening to the podcast and finished season 1 of it. Really good stuff, thanks for recommending it.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




okay you've got to keep posting reactions

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Vietnamwees posted:

Oh buddy, if you're only about to finish S1 now, than you are in for one WILD ride...

It's their aunt that is only about to finish s1, not them.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




zer0spunk posted:

It does a weird halfway thing in that first season. When they start revealing more of the main 4's backstory and personality traits it becomes fairly obvious they aren't in the good place..but at the same time a lot of little things don't make much sense if they had that twist plotted out from the get-go as anything but audience misdirection..like one episode ending on the cliffhanger of the sinkhole expanding and michael and janet freaking out, alone. Which really doesn't make any sense given the reveal..like there's foreshadowing to get there but also misdirects, it's interesting.

They made it very clear in the writer's room that Michael was under no circumstances allowed to be seen alone, because then he would just drop the act.

Janet, however, counts as making him not-alone, remember.

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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




zer0spunk posted:

Oh neat, now I'm trying to remember if they explained that he snagged her in that first season or not in the reveal episode. If they didn't maybe I assumed she was "in" on it and glossed over that by the time they hit the reveal. Watching it back to back with no gap was intense, so many things happen at a breakneck speed (and then kinda spin the wheels a bit in s3)...overall I dug it (ted danson on earth was a great way to go out, sad they didn't pull a cheers gag)

Season 2 early on. Shows Michael sneaking into the Janet warehouse and him talking with Shawn about why they need a good place janet (bad janet explodes when she tries to be nice instead of farting in people's faces).

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