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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




zer0spunk posted:

ha, so the misdirect in season 1 only seems like a mistake until you hit season 2 and realize he kidnapped her (and then i think s4 flashbacks when you see him initially tricking her in the first days of the building)

since it seems like you dug into the supplemental stuff, how much of the show did they make up as they went vs how much was plotted from the get go?

A *shitton* was plotted from the get go. Season 1 was basically plotted before they started writing at all, the other seasons they started figuring out as soon as it made sense I guess? Schur was pretty focused.

I'd highly recommend the podcast, Shawn's actor does interviews with a bunch of cast but also backstage folks like costume, producers, the composer. It's good stuff.

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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




zer0spunk posted:

not having him alone in any scene is pretty slick, i fell for it haha. i wanna say the sinkhole thing happens a bit before things that cement the twist right? like tahani being number 327 or what have you on the list she shouldn't be seeing

They also made sure not to dress him in red (to avoid devil allusions).

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




zer0spunk posted:

Ted Danson plays the lovable kook aw-shucks thing perfectly in that initial first loop or whatever we should call it, he's not the tell, for me anyway.

Tahani did it for me, for sure. The moment they start to delve into the inferiority complex and narcissism traits (which is pretty quick) you question how she'd be there when the show hits you with the moral guidelines to get into the "good place" super fast and often

It's amazing just how right Eleanor is!

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




zer0spunk posted:

"is inaction worse then the wrong choice" is a pretty fun can of worms to get into..i'm also :allears: with the way this show revolved around philosophy so well, in a mainstream network sitcom no less.

i was trying to think about how you can sum this show up to recommend it to other people, without ruining a lot of it.

Oh yeah they hired a philosophy professor to teach and train the writers, because of course they did.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




I would love to read skim that book table of contents!

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