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 Service launches November 19th, 2019 in United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland. Other countries to follow. Here is what the Google Stadia console looks like: "But wait! There's nothing there!" you're right. Because Stadia, a.k.a. Schrödinger's console, doesn't really have a "box" as such. How is it a console: It has its own versions of games and its own online ecosystem. This means you will need the Stadia version of game, even if you already own it on PC, Xbox One, PS4 and Switch. How it isn't a console: It's the most digital-only gaming platform to date, where all the game processing/rendering takes place on Google Cloud. As such, not only do you need internet, you need it to be particularly solid internet, especially if you want to game at 4K60, which has an estimated data usage of 35 megabits per second. This isn't ideal if you have any sort of monthly usage quota for your internet; even 1tb will be chewed through in about 65 hours of usage. What makes it better than existing consoles and systems - No expensive hardware to buy. A poo poo-tier $200 Wal-Mart refurb PC will play the games at the highest quality. - The render quality is beyond what the current generation of consoles provides. Expect games to hit 4K60 as standard, with the first generation cloud systems running at around 10.5 teraflops, compared to the Xbox One X's 6 teraflops of power and PS4 Pro's 4.2 teraflops. - Google's backend will be automatically upgraded over time as more demanding games start leveraging the extra power. There are future plans for 8K and 120fps when displays of that type start becoming more ubiquitous. - As the games are running in cloud instances, they are always ready-to-boot, no install times or waiting for patches. Most games will launch within 5-10 seconds of selecting the icon. - You can play the games across a myriad of devices including any computer that can run Chrome, tablets, phones, and piped to a TV using the Google Chromecast Ultra (note: the non-Ultra isn't supported) paired with a Stadia controller (the controller is required for using it with a Chromecast, but optional with other devices). Tablet and phone launch will be restricted at launch to Pixel 3 and 3a devices, with expansion to other devices planned for after launch. You can also trivially switch play between different devices. - There will be some exclusive titles on the service, such as Gylt and Get Packed, that we know of so far. Some games will not be exclusive but will exclusive leverage the cloud power as well, for example Sega Football Manager will do advanced calculations on Stadia. Gotchas with the system - Persistent internet connectivity to Google's Cloud is a requirement for any gameplay. There is no avenue to play games if your internet is down or too slow. - Unlike video streaming services like Netflix, ping times will be extremely important. If you have gigabit internet but a 500ms ping time, it's not going to be fun times for you. If you're speedrunner-tier sensitive to input delays, even fast internet may not be enough to make it palatable. - A subscription fee of $12 a month is required for 4K60 quality. Post-launch in 2020, a free 1080p60 Stereo option will be available. - Games on the service will be "full price", in other words the same prices as the PC and console versions. This doesn't sit well with many due to questions on what happens if Stadia gets shut down, especially since Google's track record for keeping services alive is pretty poor (although AFAIK they haven't killed anything that wasn't free). - The system is region-restricted and will only be gradually rolled out - Phil Harrison is behind this system launch. His previous launches were the PS3 and Xbox One. If all of this sounds good to you, the Founder's Edition bundle will set you back $129 and gets you the following:  - A Google Chromecast Ultra, which as standard includes a special AC adapter that has an ethernet jack built into it, if you want to wire in instead of using wireless. - A limited edition midnight blue Stadia controller. - A full copy of Destiny 2, including Forsaken, Shadowkeep and all sets of annual passes, for the Stadia platform. (you can import characters you played on another platform, however you can only play with other Stadia players) - 3 months of Stadia Pro - A "buddy pass" to give someone else 3 months of Stadia Pro, so they can play on their PC or Google Pixel 3/3a. - Early reservation of your Stadia handle, possibly with some exclusive bling to it When sold out, it will be replaced by the Premier Edition, which includes the following - A Google Chromecast Ultra, which as standard includes a special AC adapter that has an ethernet jack built into it, if you want to wire in instead of using wireless. - A standard white Stadia controller - A full copy of Destiny 2, including Forsaken, Shadowkeep and all sets of annual passes, for the Stadia platform. (you can import characters you played on another platform, however you can only play with other Stadia players) - 3 months of Stadia Pro The controller /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63264270/stadia.0.png) Basically a Dualshock 4 but instead of Share and Options buttons and Touchpads, it instead has four buttons. Will cost $89 by itself, available in the three colors shown (the founder's edition color is a fourth exclusive color). The bandwidth  5mbps is a minimum, and gives you 720p, going up to 35mbps for full quality 4K. The games Available at launch Assassin’s Creed Odyssey (available through uPlay+) Attack on Titan 2: Final Battle Destiny 2: The Collection (included as part of the Stadia subscription) Farming Simulator 19 Platinum Edition Final Fantasy XV Football Manager 2020 (Enhanced for Stadia) GRID Gylt (Stadia exclusive) Just Dance 2020 (available through uPlay+) Kine Metro Exodus Mortal Kombat 11 NBA 2K20 Rage 2 Red Dead Redemption 2 Rise of the Tomb Raider Samurai Shodown (2019) Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Thumper Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Trials Rising (available via uPlay+) Wolfenstein: Youngblood Available 2019 Borderlands 3 (a timed event is ending December 5th, I could see them waiting until that's done before launching) Darksiders Genesis (likely first week of December) Dragonball Xenoverse 2 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint (available via uPlay+) Other planned titles for 2020 Doom (2016) Baldur's Gate 3 Cyberpunk 2077 Destroy All Humans! Doom Eternal (delayed to March 2020) Get Packed (Exclusive to Stadia) Gods and Monsters (available via uPlay+) Kine Orcs Must Die! 3 (Stadia Timed Exclusive) Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid Superhot The Crew 2 The Elder Scrolls Online Tom Clancy's The Division 2 (available via uPlay+) Watch Dogs: Legion (available via uPlay+, has now been delayed to at least July 2020 on all platforms) Windjammers 2 Multiple other studios, including EA, are committed to launching games on the platform, but haven't announced anything specific so far. univbee fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Nov 18, 2019 |
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Google is doing 0 promotion for Stadia and therefore they will abandon it faster than you can say PSVITA
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Sep 27, 2019 16:14
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I have a 144hz monitor and I can’t stream the games at 144fps
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Sep 27, 2019 16:16
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Overbite posted:I have a 144hz monitor and I can’t stream the games at 144fps In one year you will be able to buy an nvidia card that supports 288fps
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Sep 27, 2019 16:22
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In one year stadia will be dead and buried as well. gently caress you google, keep hangouts on you goddamn morons.
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Sep 27, 2019 16:23
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Overbite posted:I have a 144hz monitor and I can’t stream the games at 144fps Whoa, little rich boy (or girl?) over here. limaCAT posted:In one year stadia will be dead and buried as well. More like Hangout our users to dry. 
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Sep 27, 2019 16:37
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Hell yeah, can't wait to post in this thread for before Stadia is available and also after it has been cancelled. So... let's say 2 years.
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Sep 27, 2019 16:43
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Wheany posted:Hell yeah, can't wait to post in this thread for before Stadia is available and also after it has been cancelled. So... let's say 2 years. 
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Sep 27, 2019 16:45
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I can't wait for the reddit posts from Comcast users who try this and end up with like 700 dollar bills.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:18
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I can't wait for the reddit posts from Comcast users who try this and end up with like 700 dollar bills. Surely it must have happened already with people using other game streaming services like PS Now or remoting into their PS4.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:30
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univbee posted:Surely it must have happened already with people using other game streaming services like PS Now or remoting into their PS4. or you know, netflix
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Sep 27, 2019 17:31
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Andrast posted:or you know, netflix It's absolutely happened with Netflix and YouTube and continues to happen to this day in huge numbers. Hell a while back my wife's work was having trouble with their wifi and she disabled wifi outright on her phone, forgetting to turn it back on. Then she gave the phone to our babby son to poison his mind on YouTube (we were home). Four-ish hours later I get a text saying our cell provider has blocked us due to having generated $50 in overages (in Canada they're required by law to cut you off once your overage hits $50 and force you to specifically have it unblocked for the rest of the month). After that we explicitly turned off YT and Netflix's ability to work using cell data.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:37
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I just pay comcasts stupid rear end 50 dollar ransom for actually unlimited data which I'm sure is bullshit if I really tried to test it. Before that it wasn't really Netflix/Hulu/PrimeVideo that would get us in trouble, it was Call of Duty and other games doing 80 gig updates every month. Streaming video services try to optimize as much as they can because that poo poo costs them money too.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:45
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I just pay comcasts stupid rear end 50 dollar ransom for actually unlimited data which I'm sure is bullshit if I really tried to test it.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:50
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honestly all this has to do is give me a way to play destiny in rooms that don't have my ps4, and when i travel for work, and i'm satisfied they could literally not put out any other game and I'd be ok with it
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Sep 27, 2019 17:55
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Time to add a companion gif to this one: 
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Sep 27, 2019 17:56
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Google Stadia, so
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Sep 28, 2019 02:42
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I wonder if this is going to live longer then the Oyua.
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Sep 28, 2019 02:47
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Tetrabor posted:Google Stadia, so That's just lag causing double inputs. Pushback on this definitely seems heavier than I was expecting, and I was already expecting a decent amount so it's probably dead in the water. I'm still getting a Founder's Edition since I want a Chromecast Ultra anyway, and that controller will likewise see some alternate use if needed. Game-wise even just Destiny 2 and the Ubisoft titles via uPlay+ are a good starting point; I probably won't get much more unless this thing works amazingly and becomes a runaway success. Really I just want to stop having to pay Canadian prices on GPUs to play increasingly-flaky PC ports.
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univbee posted:That's just lag causing double inputs. I think if Google really wanted to take it seriously, they'd slap a 15-year service guarantee on each game in their service. That way you know your AAA game purchase wont disappear next year when they inevitably shutter the project because it didn't reach Apple-levels of success. I've just been burned by Google's app closures enough times to become cynical to their new product cycles.
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When Google did their Stadia press conference, they let the press play with it on a closed network and it had high latency and a low bitrate. Lots of performance issues. This was in Silicon Valley, the tech hub of the entire world. Stadia is another idea guy creation out of Silicon Valley that is completely out of touch with the rest of the world. I was completely on board with this thing at one point. The closed beta last year showed a lot of promise, but since then Stadia's reveal has been a massive red flag.
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Sep 28, 2019 18:19
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the funny thing about google and the other big american tech companies is that they are fantastically wealthy but sufficiently hamhanded and disconnected from the kinds of avenues of power that gently caress with infrastructure they can't even bend regulation or project themselves in to municipalities in such a way that their dumb pipedreams like steaming 4k gaming actually work.
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Sep 28, 2019 19:01
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The latency is the hardest sell for me. No matter how much I read about it I won't believe it until I see it.
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Sep 29, 2019 01:25
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ground floor motherfuckers!!! can't wait for this epic console to come out!
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Sep 29, 2019 01:50
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With my 16MBit max. on DSL, I can barely play at 1080p60. And there's even worse lines where I live in the rural region. I guess not a lot of people are gonna enjoy Stadia, if they're interested. Nevermind multiple family members sharing a DSL line.
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Sep 29, 2019 02:25
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I've spoken directly with Google and they say this console is already dead 
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univbee posted:That's just lag causing double inputs. As soon as they mentioned considering the idea of paying devs more money based on playtime, I could not have possibly wanted to get farther away from the Stadia.
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Sep 29, 2019 03:28
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It blows my mind that Stadia hasn't already been canned, I cannot possibly see the service becoming popular enough to sustain itself. I'm extremely leery of any game-streaming service for a lot of reasons, and google expecting people to pay full price for "access" to a game on a service that may shut down at any time with no assurances of access to paid content is laughable. They've literally said "yeah we can't make any promises BUT we _promise_ we'll try our hardest not to shut down the service completely unnanounced and with no recourse". I've seen some special snowflakes make a comparison to Steam and I just cannot comprehend how you can be stupid enough to think the two services are in any way comparable. Steam is Valve's lifeblood; Stadia is just another dumb, disposable Google idea. You can't mod the games, there will be no crossplay between stadia and non-stadia titles, bandwidth expectations are insane and latency is a factor that will never, ever go away. And every person who uses Stadia helps send a message that we're actually cool with the concept of game ownership being completely gutted, even further than it is already. Who exactly is Stadia marketed towards? Idiots? nightwisher fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Sep 29, 2019 |
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Sep 29, 2019 03:50
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Basically.
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Sep 29, 2019 07:57
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i am suddenly reminded of the juicero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cp-BGQfpHQ
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drkeiscool posted:i am suddenly reminded of the juicero Google servers gonna squeeze the bits out of their hard drives so they come out faster.
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drkeiscool posted:i am suddenly reminded of the juicero I really never understood who Juicero was marketed towards. Like the segment of people who really care about juice, but wouldn't make their own must be tiny. Like a large part of being a juice weirdo is eating disorder level of control over your food, which goes against the whole idea of buying bags of processed juice goo. Stadia, at least makes sense if dubious.
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Sep 29, 2019 16:16
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*leans extremely close to mic* no thankyou *leans away*
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Thundercracker posted:I really never understood who Juicero was marketed towards. Like the segment of people who really care about juice, but wouldn't make their own must be tiny. Like a large part of being a juice weirdo is eating disorder level of control over your food, which goes against the whole idea of buying bags of processed juice goo. It’s pretty high, but we have solved this problem a long time ago, by selling juice in bottles/juiceboxes.
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Sep 29, 2019 16:23
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Idc how big name, big budget this is. I'm getting Ouya vibes.
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Thinking about it some more, the only reason I'd look at Stadia is if there'd be a scenario where e.g. Rockstar would release GTA6 on consoles and Stadia, but then do the usual PC version 6-12 months later. That still doesn't solve my bandwidth issue, tho.
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Thundercracker posted:I really never understood who Juicero was marketed towards. Like the segment of people who really care about juice, but wouldn't make their own must be tiny. Like a large part of being a juice weirdo is eating disorder level of control over your food, which goes against the whole idea of buying bags of processed juice goo. The new thing that rich dipshits in San Francisco are doing now is drinking unfiltered stream water and getting deadly parasites as a result. Coming as a surprise to literally no one else, water in America is not safe to drink.
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Sep 29, 2019 16:31
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Unfiltered stream water isn’t safe anywhere, but there’s also a startup to give young people’s blood to rich old people, so yeah, startup culture is bizarre and all around weird
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The HBO TV show, Silicon Valley, is a pretty hilarious look at everything wrong with startup / tech culture in California. Granted it's exaggerated, but its satire is also not far from the truth either and uses real world examples of terrible tech ideas to tell its jokes.
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