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goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.




Grimey Drawer

I'd guess it's for recovery and injury management. Suppressing things like Bernal's back problems, aiding the physiotherapy for muscle damage mid-tour.

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peanut-
Feb 17, 2004


Fun Shoe

This is Bahrain, as the study was requested by the police after a raid and they were the only team that got raided.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.




Grimey Drawer

Bernal was just the first person with a prominent recurring injury who came to mind.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

goatface posted:

Doing the research would probably be covered by the source, the police generally do not need your authorization to conduct forensic tests.

Releasing the results of that research is much more questionable. You could argue there is a public interest aspect, but they could easily have just stated they were samples from "professional sportspeople" or w/e and passed along the full details to WADA to deal with. It also tells people who are using it to start looking for new doping opportunities because this window might be about to close.

Im all for it. gently caress these scumbags, giving medicine for non therapeutic reasons to unknowing athletes with no regard for consequences, jail them all and keep investigating them every way possible

tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

Time.Space.Transmat.

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1451143770452414469?t=4UOTloc4kwIGXrwQ5t3Njg&s=19

:thunk:

Interesting ethically as the riders almost certainly didn't consent to their samples being used for research and this clearly violates any kind of rule around anonymity because it's very clear who the subjects are.

TIZ cycling once again getting hassled by the law.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


They were able to prove that tramadol improved power output as well as the recovery benefits. I wonder if this is the same.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.




Grimey Drawer

Looking it up, it might also be useful for temporarily decreasing bowel motility. They could have been using it to counter the squits.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004


Fun Shoe

Mark Padun was propelled up those mountains by chronic constipation.

Withnail
Feb 11, 2004


I miss the days of going on a big weekend Zanaflex bender

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


https://twitter.com/Cyclingnewsfeed/status/1451455986942758917?t=zikP_hiGubobkIFsolsieQ&s=19

Sorry it was another team in a international 3 week race in France.

LoudPipesSaveLives
Apr 30, 2007

Make a shit-load of noise, not war.



It must be pretty hard being a pro-rider, what if you actually need to take muscle relaxants or something after a race becuase you are hosed? I have to take Naproxen every other bike ride because my back gets sore if I over-do things, being a pro would be hard enough without the scrutiny on legit treatments for pain or anything else. I get that there are reasons people take some stuff to mask other stuff, just trying to feel how lovely it would be being micromanaged like that.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man


Can't really think of a reason why anyone would use tizanidine seeking performance benefits. It's a muscle relaxant...it causes bradycardia without any benefit...it can make your heart stop. Those tiny pills hit like a truck. I once took two and don't remember the couple hours before it knocked me out.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


Theres some spicy stuff coming out about British cycling and 2012 that makes a formal investigation inevitable.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

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#BlackLivesMatter
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Would you like to know more?
[ x ] Yes
[ ] No

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada-confirms-potential-wrongdoing-by-british-cycling-and-ukad-in-operation-echo/

quote:

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) confirmed “potential wrongdoing” by “individuals” at British Cycling and UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) concerning allegations that athlete samples were privately screened using a non-WADA-accredited laboratory for a prohibited and performance-enhancing substance in the lead up to the 2012 London Olympic Games.

Against the rules set by the World Anti-Doping Code and the relevant International Standard, the summary found that UKAD allowed samples to be collected by British Cycling staff rather than doping control officers, analyzed by a non-WADA-accredited laboratory. In addition, this was provided by the athletes on the basis that UKAD would never know the results.

The report also established that at least one UKAD employee new about the study and the sample collections, and that they were being analyzed at a non-WADA-accredited laboratory. WADA has stated that UKAD has no record of receiving the analysis results and emails related to the events.

https://twitter.com/Jamie_langley1/status/1452180252759834624

That thread is spicy.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

He is I, and I am him



Forgot about this

quote:

Wiggins jiffy bag saga where Triamcinolone the powerful corticosteroid used to strip fat and retain muscle mass was likely used

But 100% confirmed

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack


Who could have predicted this?

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012



I keep forgetting that the UCI also regulates *squinting* indoor cycling, which is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf6AFBZWAY8

and something called cycle ball. You probably saw a new post and thought someone got popped or died. Nope. Just the depths of UCI content

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004


Fun Shoe

lmao that’s amazing. Are there any non-German competitors? That video is concentrated German energy.

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012



All the results lists I just checked are various permutations of GER - AUT - SUI in the top three, so it depends on your definition of non-German. There was one Spanish bronze in the, uh, "single men" category

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!






Smirr posted:

You probably saw a new post and thought someone got popped or died. Nope. Just the depths of UCI content

I assumed it'd be about dowsetts hour attempt, they're even showing it on the beeb

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

He is I, and I am him



I wonder what the scoring tables look like. It seems to be endless (very difficult) variations of the Titanic bow pose.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


Dowset is going for the hour record in half an hour.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009

System Access Node
Not Found:ins:




serious gaylord posted:

Dowset is going for the hour record in half an hour.
How many drugs?

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004



BlankSystemDaemon posted:

How many drugs?

So far it looks like not enough.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

He’s hosed it.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!


I reckon he'd have managed it last season, he's been on pretty shocking form since getting covid

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

#JusticeForBreonnaTaylor
#BlackLivesMatter
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Definitely came undone in the second half but still a monster effort.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


He was so confident of beating it. I wonder what went wrong?

His pace was down from 10 minutes in and he never looked like getting it back.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.




Grimey Drawer

Over trained. Doesn't have the good recovery drugs anymore.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

He is I, and I am him



Have there been high profile attempts where the rider DNFed knowing they didn’t have it? Would be better viewing having them less short of breath and bring interviewed explaining why they didn’t have it.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

kimbo305 posted:

Have there been high profile attempts where the rider DNFed knowing they didn’t have it? Would be better viewing having them less short of breath and bring interviewed explaining why they didn’t have it.

Yeah, definitely one of those events that’s not ideal for TV, it’d be perfect to cut back to for an update during some other sports coverage though.

I wonder how easily the bigger TT specialist guys on the tour could beat the record. Wout, Ganna, Roglic, and some of the lead out guys I’m forgetting. When weight is almost totally irrelevant, doesn’t make sense for an average size guy like Dowsett to have a hope.

Dan Bigham did much in his hour record attempt a few weeks ago, along with his partner Joss actually taking the womens record. As he’s not currently a pro rider in the UCI testing pool it wouldn’t have counted officially anyway. Sure to repeat it once that’s sorted I think.

Great interview about it on the Peak Torque YouTube channel.

Edit: corrected facts.

wooger fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Nov 4, 2021

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!


serious gaylord posted:

He was so confident of beating it. I wonder what went wrong?

If you don't go into it with the mindset of "100% got this" you're asking for trouble.

I'm pretty sure he would have got it last year if he hadn't had covid. That was a confident run - sharing training power numbers, talking about how easy the target felt, not spending huge amounts of money on tiny gains, doing it in the UK. Post-covid he's just not been putting out the numbers.

Not on the bike, but I've done hour tests on the rowing machine and they are grim so fair play to the lad for seeing it through.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man


30% what???

Only registered members can see post attachments!

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


https://twitter.com/OutOfCycling/status/1457682230952841224

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

#JusticeForBreonnaTaylor
#BlackLivesMatter
#StillIRise
#Blessed





Lmao imagine signing up for the Giro de Rigo in the hopes of getting to ride beside a national legend and he just hammers by you like you’re standing still

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.


Tbf I think thats Higuita and Dani Martinez so I would hope Rigo is doing the nice thing and just riding with people.

But yeah lol imagine getting to the bottom of that climb, you've just about managed to hold on over some rollers and they just go off like the Saturn V.

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007



Tbh if I’m riding a climb with a pro I think it’d actually be quite cool to see just how much faster they are than me if they’re going all out.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

#JusticeForBreonnaTaylor
#BlackLivesMatter
#StillIRise
#Blessed





https://twitter.com/OutOfCycling/status/1457779959313829888?s=20

:f5:

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TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
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serious gaylord posted:

Tbf I think thats Higuita and Dani Martinez so I would hope Rigo is doing the nice thing and just riding with people.

But yeah lol imagine getting to the bottom of that climb, you've just about managed to hold on over some rollers and they just go off like the Saturn V.


It's Higuita and he just lost 2 months worth of salary because EF-Nippo is mad.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ef-education-send-termination-notice-to-sergio-higuita-after-early-bike-switch/

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