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TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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1) It's against the ToS to bot in Zwift, but this punishment isn't coming from Zwift.
2) British Cycling is levying the punishment, and yes it seems harsh.
3) Events with this level of "prestige" should use a small selection of spec in-game equipment. Perhaps offer a few presets like a lightweight bike, an all-rounder and an aero bike. This mechanism is already in the game.
4) Zwift is simply pay-to-play, not pay-to-win.

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TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Trek's 2020 roster is gonna be pretty damned good.

TobinHatesYou
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Long stages just donít do anything for TV or for sponsors. Tradition is one of the main issues with the sportís decline. Sure, put in one or two, but we donít need those plus a couple more plus pan-flat transfe...sprinter stages.

TobinHatesYou
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Feels Villeneuve posted:

it's probably because the sport is an impossible-to-completely-follow mess of competing rights holders, and also the residual effects of doping, and that it's a weird, notoriously beginner-unfriendly sport, not because "stages too long" (nobody is forcing you to watch the first 100k of the Ronde or the World Championships if you don't want to, you know, and it's only been recently that ASO have insisted on broadcasting every stage flag-to-flag anyway)


So whatís the point of having a whole bunch of long boring stages that nobody wants to watch again? Like I said, put in one or two...leave the rest out. Hell, that may even leave the riders fresh enough to consistently make those key stages a show.

TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 29, 2019

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Feels Villeneuve posted:

You need roleur stages so a team can't just stack their squad full of fresh climbing superdomestiques, ie Sky

For the same reason I don't think keeping everyone fresh is necessarily a good thing, the best climbing stages in the Vuelta this year were 18\20

???

Rouleurs like Kwiato and G ARE superdomestiques.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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More proof that road cycling as a spectator sport is broken.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amge...-210000445.html

TobinHatesYou
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tylertfb posted:

I bet the per-kilometer cost for a pro race in the USA (road closure, EMT / Cops / etc) is at least 20 times what it is in Euroland. And compared to that cost (FREE) in the oil dictatorship companies....

I was on a group ride with the DS for Tibvo-SVB today and she was going on and on about road cycling being a dying sport, that's it not good for TV and that sponsors aren't really getting their money's worth. The fields are shrinking at every level...road cycling isn't dead, but it's been going downhill for years. Car culture and inflexibility / sticking to tradition are killing the sport.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Did Trek give Ellen Noble an old eTap 11spd Emonda instead of the new-new?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6gUyYil3bq/

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Feels Villeneuve posted:

Worlds though...

One fuckin' gel, man. It's ok though, Mads is cool af. And Stefan Kung literally grimaced for a full hour to end the race.

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Only time Froome ever had to face Nairo was when he was riding back down after a mountain finish.

TobinHatesYou
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WWT got cancelled foe the rest of 2020 and the men's tour should probably do the same in the next few days.

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serious gaylord posted:

That was just the British stage race that's been cancelled for next year. Theres still plans for womens racing as far as I can see.

Oh. Stupid naming conventions. I still think everything should just be canceled.

TobinHatesYou
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cebrail posted:

Just make the Classics part of stage races. Make Paris Roubaix the second to last stage of the Tour. In fact, make everything a stage of one giant race.

God thatís brilliant.

Tour de Europa.

Start in Italy, ride to Switzerland for the world championships, ride to France and Belgium, ride to Spain...do MSR, Il Lombardia, P-R, etc. along the way in geographical order. Make the start list 25 riders per team. Let chaos reign.

TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 10:20 on May 6, 2020

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serious gaylord posted:

The biking sites are being remarkably tight lipped about it thats for sure. Just mention of some sort of pre contract that had been signed.

It's complicated. Mitchelton-Scott's WT license is owned by Gerry Ryan / GreenEdge. The rest of the team assets are controlled by Shayne Bannan / New Global Cycling Services. These totally legit Spanish dudes claim to have bought the latter while not actually possessing the WT license. It all seems destined for court or some sort of arbitration. Or Ryan just tears up his license and retires to his vineyard and drinks lots of shiraz.

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big crush on Chad OMG posted:

Or joining the race in progress at whatever time they decide because they were airing 300 copper fit commercials instead


This is every race that isnít a famous spring classic or grand tour. NBC is simply grabbing the world feed just like everyone else, and that feed often doesnít start until long after the grand depart.

Also NBC Sports does carry commercial-free streams with the Aussie broadcasters, and theyíre great.

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marsisol posted:

Is anyone else having issues trying to sign up for NBC Cycling Gold? Whenever I try to give them my money, they just throw me to a page that wants me to sign up for a reminder for when cycling is back.

Their subscription service renewal is tied to the TdF, so Iím guessing theyíve paused it until there is more certainty that itís even going to happen.

TobinHatesYou
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serious gaylord posted:

No tour of California next year. Looks like its done for good.

Well, the same forces that prevented AToC from being held in 2020 are in play again for 2021. Namely the Tokyo Olympics are going to force the 2021 TdF to run earlier. Also fat chance at the USA having COVID-19 under control by next April/May anyway.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Indoor training also exists.

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Smirr posted:

https://twitter.com/AG2RLMCyclisme/...3337100288?s=19

GVA (and Schär) signed with AG2R for the 2021 season

Rumor is BMC is also moving from NTT to AG2R. I'm sure GVA will be happy about that.

Other silly season equipment sponsor rumors:
Cervelo to Jumbo-Visma (more or less confirmed)
Movistar loses Canyon (almost certain with Canyon backing both Alpecin-Fenix and Arkea-Samsic)
Argon 18 in talks with Mitchelton-Scott
Bianchi in talks with Israel Start-Up Nation

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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djssniper posted:

He'll get new shiny ones for free

Don't watch youtube vids on how this is done though.

e: JK here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE7z7yBIygM

don't click

e2: 100% of dental surgeries are performed to the Last of the Mohicans original motion picture score.

TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Aug 13, 2020

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big crush on Chad OMG posted:

Donít think heís going to hang on lads

VIVA FORMOLO

TobinHatesYou
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nwin posted:

Fractured pelvis. Yikes

I mean, he's pretty lucky to not have compound fractures in his extremities, spinal injury and TBI.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Grats Thibaut Pinot I guess?

TobinHatesYou
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SEPP SEPP SEPP

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Pantsmaster Bill posted:

Sure, but should we not just be a bit suspicious that all of Jumbo are suddenly way ahead of even ineos?

The rise of TJV has been 3-4 years in the making, so no, Iím not suspicious at all.

TobinHatesYou
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I look forward to this every year.

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Loving Africa Chaps posted:

They talked about it on one of the early stages, CCC are a huge retail company that are in trouble due to covid-19, would be terrible to lose another major sponsor.


Itís not an if. CCC is pulling out. NTT is pulling out. McLaren is pulling out.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

Its the entire team if any 2 people (riders or staff) test positive

https://www.velonews.com/events/tou...tour-de-france/

Within 7 days of each other, which is kind of bunk because the the tests are 8 days apart.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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They were 30 seconds off basically, but Bol let himself get swallowed up before anyone even launched anyway... he lost like 4 positions just to churn.

TobinHatesYou
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Theyíd have to rename the team Covidis for 2021.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Wout, being new to road sprinting, left a lane open next to the barriers.
Sagan took it and asserted himself.
That sanction/relegation is pretty bullshit if you ask me.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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If the TdF organizers want to prioritize rider safety, how about:

1) Not having those perpendicular triangular foam advertising signs on the fences?
2) How about setting up two layers of barriers to keep idiot fans from leaning over with their phones? (this happens at every single race)

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Zakarin abandons and I now have no reason to watch the TdF mountain stages.

TobinHatesYou
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Hirschi would need to blow up to get caught at this point.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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Is this the first time a Samsung Galaxy on a Quad Lock has been used by a stage winner?

TobinHatesYou
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily...5342539776?s=19

Is this the highest VAM ever? Must be up there with contadors famous attack of Armstrong.

I'd be more sus but legs are fresher and there was a group of 3 including Porte who weren't that far behind.

Contador did ~1900VAM for 21min up Verbier in 2009, which is a 7% average. Thatís honestly a lot more suspect than ~2150VAM For 7.5min up 13%. The latter numbers line up with Andy Cogganís power curve...Contadorís were off the charts.

TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Sep 12, 2020

TobinHatesYou
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peanut- posted:

tbf Bernal dropped time on the ultra-steep ramp finishes in the Pyrenees last year and made gains on the big multiple mountain days in the Alps. Itís clearly where heís vulnerable.

But it is hard to completely disregard that testing was almost entirely stopped during lockdown.

Bernal looked awful at the Dauphine and he couldnít even keep pace with Richie Porte. Letís not pretend heís ďin peak formĒ when he was making excuses about back problems last month. Itís pretty clear Ineos dropped the ball on a coherent training schedule during the pandemic with all their GC contenders, including Froome, Thomas and Carapaz.

TobinHatesYou
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peanut- posted:

Bit weird at the end that, felt like they just let him ride off

The ones hunting sprint points were all gassed from the flurry of attacks and counters. If you notice in the replay, they are all sprinting seated at the end.

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TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

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serious gaylord posted:


Yeah, just lmao at this tour.

This has been disproven, at least in Bernal's case.



There is nothing extraordinary about 7.2-7.3w/kg over 7m21s for top world tour climbers. On the other hand 6.7w/kg for 7m59s isn't a TdF winning performance.

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