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What's Pac's win record compared to Darby's?
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Oct 7, 2019 18:33
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I think Darby is like 1-1-1 which makes him being in a no.1 contender match odd. Thought Pac was 2-0 so he'd make more sense but who knows. Idk if any websites are tallying W/L records right now
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Oct 7, 2019 18:36
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PACs AEWtron needs an update from 2 mean and 1 incredibly silly images to something cooler.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:37
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https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1181260026272456705
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Oct 7, 2019 18:38
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Cody please take it to the spoiler thread
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Oct 7, 2019 18:39
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Great Darby is going to be left out of the CFP again
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Oct 7, 2019 18:40
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J Ru please probate Cody
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Oct 7, 2019 18:43
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I feel like the wins and losses will bite them in the rear end in like a years time. I get the idea but the obsessive tracking will be a problem.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:43
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they could easily remedy the W/L stuff by routinely holding tournaments not unlike the tag team one. Would give chances to lower-end people in the Wins column to eek out those wins in a bracket.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:45
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Gumball Gumption posted:I feel like the wins and losses will bite them in the rear end in like a years time. I get the idea but the obsessive tracking will be a problem. Oh God, they're opening a Pandora's Box for the return of Green Lantern Fan...
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Oct 7, 2019 18:46
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Gumball Gumption posted:I feel like the wins and losses will bite them in the rear end in like a years time. I get the idea but the obsessive tracking will be a problem. Like in sports, there will probably be actual seasons or older records getting dropped off after a time. There are resets available.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:47
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Gonna be some Comic Book Guy our there putting together an AEW BCS ranking and driving himself insane thanks to that win quality remark. Edit: I think they’ve also talked about stuff like using Last X matches as a way to get them out of “But I thought wins and losses matter!” jail.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:48
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Maybe this is dumb but what if they had like...seasonal win/loss records, so it wouldn’t have to get so complicated. You would still have their overall record if some heel wanted to make a big deal about it, but perhaps after their big end of the year show win/loss records are wiped clean??
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Oct 7, 2019 18:48
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Gumball Gumption posted:I feel like the wins and losses will bite them in the rear end in like a years time. I get the idea but the obsessive tracking will be a problem. No the nerd fans' obsessive tracking will be the problem. The College Football Playoff is a great example - they can spin the wins/losses thing however they want to and it'll be fine.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:48
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They never said "title shots are 100% determined by W/L record" they said wins and losses matter.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:49
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How big of a problem can it really be?
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Oct 7, 2019 18:49
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reignofevil posted:How big of a problem can it really be? CobiWann posted:Oh God, they're opening a Pandora's Box for the return of Green Lantern Fan...
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Oct 7, 2019 18:49
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Gumball Gumption posted:I feel like the wins and losses will bite them in the rear end in like a years time. I get the idea but the obsessive tracking will be a problem. It already looks dumb because Cody just moved the goalposts from "win and losses matter" to "wins and losses matter, but also the quality" It's dumb, just don't bother with the wins/losses matter poo poo.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:49
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they matter except for rumlow who is like 5-0 right now. I swear I saw waldo take out like 5 guys in that video package
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Oct 7, 2019 18:53
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Darby is undefeated in singles competition
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Oct 7, 2019 18:54
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bradzilla posted:It already looks dumb because Cody just moved the goalposts from "win and losses matter" to "wins and losses matter, but also the quality" What if you look at it from the point of "this guy's a long-time geek but he's rattled off a whole bunch of impressive wins in a row?" Spin it like Bret Hart vs. the 1-2-3 Kid from RAW in the early 90's. The Kid had some good wins, got a title shot because Bret didn't have any other challengers lined up, and they had one of my favorite matches of all time.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:57
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cody openly spoiling AEW Dark matches after this thread had a long debate about it is extremely funny
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Oct 7, 2019 19:00
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Aren’t there already two W/L counters next to their names on the chyron, one that’s specific to recent and one that is their overall, suggesting that yes, after a certain period there’s a reset (probably a calendar year, so everyone’s record would reset after Double or Nothing 2020)
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Oct 7, 2019 19:01
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The Cameo posted:Aren’t there already two W/L counters next to their names on the chyron, one that’s specific to recent and one that is their overall, suggesting that yes, after a certain period there’s a reset (probably a calendar year, so everyone’s record would reset after Double or Nothing 2020) And gently caress yeah I love quality losses!
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Oct 7, 2019 19:09
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It's only a problem if you're bad at booking long term. It's a good, important thing for wins and losses to matter. It would be really dumb if I could beat Michael Nakazawa five times and be 5-0 and get a world title shot because of my W/L record alone. Of course the quality of wins would matter.
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Oct 7, 2019 19:17
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Nice promo from Tully https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1181267949673439233
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Oct 7, 2019 19:22
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Low Desert Punk posted:cody openly spoiling AEW Dark matches after this thread had a long debate about it is extremely funny Cody rules
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Oct 7, 2019 19:24
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Not making GBS threads on anyone here in particular, but this is why I'm not big on W-L records. They can accomplish the same goals just by booking things properly. A top 10 ranking is a good idea, but it's probably a bit early for that.
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Oct 7, 2019 19:26
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Will probably also become less of an issue once people starting hitting 7-10 matches and the tiers are more obvious.
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Oct 7, 2019 19:28
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I did a system similar to the kind of ongoing ladder tournament system that's used in tennis in a TEW game once, and it made booking really easy, and kept everyone in each division in ranks, and made most TV matches have something on the line. I think it's really good, but it's just a little more complicated than most people probably want to deal with.
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Oct 7, 2019 19:32
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Buns posted:Nice promo from Tully This idea of promoting matches and then running the matches you promoted is still completely wild 
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Oct 7, 2019 19:32
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in terms of booking, AEW is coming in hot right after possibly the worst two loving world title matches of 2019 so they have nothing to fear
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Oct 7, 2019 19:43
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i don't think that match between the goths is to be #1 contender. it just said to get a shot at the title. the number two through four routinely get title shots in mma and in boxing there are tuneups for the champion that are still title matches
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Oct 7, 2019 19:44
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Cavauro posted:i don't think that match between the goths is to be #1 contender. it just said to get a shot at the title. the number two through four routinely get title shots in mma and in boxing there are tuneups for the champion that are still title matches This is some language parsing I can get behind. I mean truly, Cody’s should be designated as the Number 1 contender since he’s got the big showcase title shot coming up. Get it together AEW.
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Oct 7, 2019 19:48
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the tracking of wins/losses is good and I hope in time fans will stop taking them as straight "but he has more wins than the other guy, why doesn't he get a shot?" and see them as tools that enhance the story when utilized well. winning streaks, showcase matches, main events, all of these could play into it and open up fun avenues. now if it's straight dogshit that gets blown to hell in two months, I never made this post and it was always a bad idea. Bard Maddox fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Oct 7, 2019 |
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Oct 7, 2019 19:53
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Gumball Gumption posted:I have so many questions that will never get answered. this is the first time we’ve ever seen this kylie rae.
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Oct 7, 2019 19:56
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Buns posted:Nice promo from Tully this is sort of a weird match because both guys need a win on television. Mox has been gone and I feel like it makes shawn and tully look sorta lame if they lose two in a row. Omega interference to move along the Mox feud and set up a future match with Spears?
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Oct 7, 2019 20:04
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The Cameo posted:Aren’t there already two W/L counters next to their names on the chyron, one that’s specific to recent and one that is their overall, suggesting that yes, after a certain period there’s a reset (probably a calendar year, so everyone’s record would reset after Double or Nothing 2020) I thought the counters were related to singles matches and other types of matches like trios or tag.
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Oct 7, 2019 20:08
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Pretty sure the cheapest stateside solution is $25 for the Sling package with TNT on it. Thank you! I will probably do this I guess.
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Oct 7, 2019 20:28
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JUNGLE BOY posted:I’m definitely driving from Austin with the expectation that they’ll probably also run Houston or San Antonio, which I will also drive to. Struggling with wanting to travel from Austin for this, too. Dallas stinks and I had about enough of it as I could ever want for the G1, but I've also been shut out of every other AEW show I've tried buying tickets to. Why won't anybody come to Austin instead  I'd even take San Antonio at this point since it's a shorter drive between the three options.
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