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Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Sapper posted:

I try to patronize the small 1.0 shops when I can (i.e., I'm not in a rush and there's not that much of a price difference.) They're generally small businesses and I'd rather pay a buck or two more than add to Bezos' growing hoard.

Even the ones that also sell through Amazon, they get more money if you browse to their site and buy instead of going through Amazon.

And of course, Amazon refuses to carry the lifesize dragonkin silicon rubber sex dolls that I prefer, so you pretty much have to go web 1.0 for those.

Part of going with this web 1.0 shop was that they could get me the chain I wanted in 3 days as opposed to Amazon that said I couldn't have it until November 1st. It was only like $0.75 more from the saw shop too.

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ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008

steinrokkan posted:

Sometimes I buy from here, and so far they've always delivered as advertised.

I am Gynic Problem.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I'm in to model trains and so much of that hobby is 60+ year olds running garage businesses with 90's looking websites telling you to print out a order sheet and fax it back to them and crazy poo poo like that.

Shamino
Mar 14, 2008

I am weary of loitering about Britain. There is much we could be accomplishing! Where hast thou been, anyway?

Baronjutter posted:

I'm in to model trains and so much of that hobby is 60+ year olds running garage businesses with 90's looking websites telling you to print out a order sheet and fax it back to them and crazy poo poo like that.

How has the model train hobby not been absolutely destroyed by 3d printers.?

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
I knit. A few yarn dyers' websites are extremely 1.0, like http://www.decadentfibers.com/yarn.htm. Sadly another 0.3 masterpiece recently took down their site and just made it redirect to their (also very bad) facebook page. Others have modern software but don't really get how to use it and definitely don't get inventory management, so all kinds of items are listed and then one sentence in the long description is like "not real, don't order this."

Unsurprisingly, African violets are a hobby for olds http://lyndonlyon.com/store/

I want to buy these pots, but look at this madhouse of gibberish and recursion https://sites.google.com/site/selfwateringpots/

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Oct 20, 2019

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Shamino posted:

How has the model train hobby not been absolutely destroyed by 3d printers.?

you cant send gcode to a 3d printer with a fax machine

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Shamino posted:

How has the model train hobby not been absolutely destroyed by 3d printers.?

3d printing hasn't actually been good enough to match the quality of modern injection molding until the last few years, specially at the home-3d printer level. There's some amazing uv/resin based stuff on the market these days but even so they are expensive machines, the resin is really expensive, and the whole process is a bit messy and stinky. Why invest in a bunch of equipment and chemicals to produce a $40 box car you have to paint and assemble your self when you can buy a ready to run one from a chinese factory for $15 ?

Where 3d printing has taken off is in niche detail parts, which is what all these garage industries were. Old dudes making resin and metal cast fire hydrants and specific lamp hoods for a specific version of a locomotive that only existed for 2 years in 1921. But again, people aren't so much printing them them selves but ordering them off a new generation of garage industries. It's not any cheaper, but generally if you're technologically literate to 3d model and print you can figure out a functional online ordering system for your website.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
I accidentally wore my Hiawatha tshirt on casual Friday once and thereafter some guy knew that he could bend my ear off about model trains.

Anyway, from what I gather the hobby these days consists of paying over a thousand bucks to sit on a waitlist for a year for some other guy to make an insanely accurate custom model of some specific model of locomotive and then never actually run it, just order another one and sit on another waitlist.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good

lo carb Lo Pan posted:

Need new stock old Atari poo poo?

If you could connect an Atari 800 to the internet I'm sure it could handle this site.
http://www.best-electronics-ca.com

I like how he has an entire page to warn you about overpaying for Atari stuff on Ebay: http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/EBAY.htm

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Chomp8645 posted:

tbh I have no idea what separates a 1.0 website from a, uh... 2.0 website???

Is there an actual technical meaning or is calling a website "1.0" just a way of saying it's old?

Web 1.0 and 2.0 is separated primarily by the use of ajax (asynchronous http requests) in web pages, and the use of javascript frameworks for page rendering. In web 1.0, if you wanted to view your shopping cart, you'd click a link, and it would go to an entirely different, separate page, and there would be no integration between the shopping cart and the rest of the site. If you look at sites like gmail and amazon, even though the url for the page is changing in the browser, it's not updating the whole page, just the sections that change. A big rule of thumb is if you turn off javascript and the site doesn't work at all, it's web 2.0.

bus hustler
Mar 14, 2019

He's unfortunately dead now but Sheldon Brown's web 1.0 page is still basically the most correct and proper authority on most things bicycling. If you ever wrote HTML back in the 90s you can basically 'see' the code when you look at the page, it's that simplistic.

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/

Barry White
Jun 28, 2008

Luke Skywalker kills Han Solo's son at the climax of Episode VII
Any music buffs? Both Sides Now is an amazing resource that tells the story of recorded music in the US and includes the stories of many (Mainly US) labels. Not a store but very 1997.


https://www.bsnpubs.com/discog.html

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

Web 1.0 and 2.0 is separated primarily by the use of ajax (asynchronous http requests) in web pages, and the use of javascript frameworks for page rendering. In web 1.0, if you wanted to view your shopping cart, you'd click a link, and it would go to an entirely different, separate page, and there would be no integration between the shopping cart and the rest of the site. If you look at sites like gmail and amazon, even though the url for the page is changing in the browser, it's not updating the whole page, just the sections that change. A big rule of thumb is if you turn off javascript and the site doesn't work at all, it's web 2.0.

Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks!

naem
May 29, 2011

I almost studied Adobe™️Flash®️©️ at one point in school, that sure would have been an investment in my future

Propitious Jerk
Sep 13, 2010
Project Gutenburg website is pretty web 1.0 it still lists Yahoo before Google as an available search option.
https://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/

actually a lot of academic sites are 1.0 as heck, I suppose free doesn't get the all-star designers.

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Saint Drogo
Dec 26, 2011

Shamino posted:

How has the model train hobby not been absolutely destroyed by 3d printers.?
3D printers are too lovely to destroy anything they were meant to destroy.

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