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orange juche posted:Quest 2 per-eye resolution is 1832x1920. Quest 3 being a downgrade on pixels per eye would be a pretty poo poo look so I think they're probably looking to boost their per-eye resolution. Going from current resolution to 2k x 2k doesn't sound like much, but would be an immediate ~12% bump in overall pixel resolution . Going to 3k x 3k would be 44% bump Although as pointed out the TDP envelope is pretty tight already, going higher than 2k is already stressing the GPU and doesn't allow for much from the CPU to do any complex tasks like handle basic AI tasks like pathing and decision making for many NPC characters etc Low resolution cripples VR for tasks like reading text smaller than a street sign though
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Quest 3 is being rumored at around 2000x2200. a bit of PC VR after so many quest news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-OlIIXZ3zk June 8th.
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Holy poo poo, the rumor about the Quest Pro having the depth camera removed last-minute because it let you see through clothes, was actually true: https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1664742918727278592 Boz confirms that was the case, and they added an infrared-blocking mirrored film of some sort to the Q3's depth camera to prevent that.
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Zero VGS posted:Holy poo poo, the rumor about the Quest Pro having the depth camera removed last-minute because it let you see through clothes, was actually true: That's just like the infrared camcorders back in the day, circa early to mid 2000s
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Hadlock posted:I can't imagine quest dropping PC link, simply because both internal meta developers and external devs need it to program the drat thing That and developers are still using SteamVR and quests to like, make content for the meta store pages, meta included.
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How's Golf Plus and does it ever go on sale? I loved Everybody's Golf on PSVR minus the caddies. Felt that it was very responsive and represented your motion quite well. Can anyone recommend it?
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Beastie posted:How's Golf Plus and does it ever go on sale? If you want realistic golf its the go to.
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Wait they accidentally invented working x-ray glasses? I’m pretty sure I ordered a pair of those back in the day.
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https://twitter.com/MultiCallum/status/1664980972855517184 https://twitter.com/MultiCallum/status/1665019584649330690 Don't factory-reset your Quest 1 anytime soon.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:https://twitter.com/MultiCallum/status/1664980972855517184 See I don't understand why you're so worried about sideloading going away when they'll just randomly brick the whole headset instead
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Lemming posted:See I don't understand why you're so worried about sideloading going away when they'll just randomly brick the whole headset instead Yeah this is loving wild. I'll be shocked if this somehow isn't reversed. Not that I have some faith in meta as a whole but like, the backlash or w/e. I get sunsetting the hardware but making it useless, oof.
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Carmack is gone, all that's left are a bunch of 22 and 23 year old kids in the VR department with not even disregard for old models, simply no knowledge of the concept of support for legacy hardware I can't imagine anyone with any tenure made the transfer from the revenue division to the hemorrhaging money division
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Turin Turambar posted:Quest 3 is being rumored at around 2000x2200. Yessssss, I was looking forward to this and was worried it might be cancelled after it was scheduled for Steamfest a couple of years ago and suddenly dropped out.
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Today is when , in theory, Apple will present their device. I'm sure it will make the Quest Pro/3 look bad. Honestly, the Quest 3 is pretty conservative in its design, I'm still waiting for Meta to make a new design with notably more fov (it's like they gave up in that area) and with battery and SoC in a puck. It seems the ideal solution to me, it would give a bigger battery, and a slightly better cooling system on the chip, improving performance too, and all that would be weight out of the head. For Apple, I think in their next headset, in a pair of years, they will make a model that connects to whatever new model of iPhone Max they have. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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I'm actually pretty hopeful that there's something really cool and new, in directions we haven't really seen.
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Another aspect where the Quest 3 will fall short against Apple is the computing power. Even forgetting the comparison against Apple, I have the feeling 2x vs Quest 2 isn't that big of a jump (given the price is also increasing). I'm comparing it on my mind to generational jumps in consoles to say that, mind you. In that market, the normal thing is to have a 4x-to-6x times improvement.
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Quest 2/3 are mostly limited by cooling, they can throw an M2 Pro in there or whatever but without a giant 13"+ aluminum case to dissipate heat that cooling fan is going to have to work overtime to provide any kind of sustained performance, and apple isn't known for using noisy fans
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Hadlock posted:Quest 2/3 are mostly limited by cooling, they can throw an M2 Pro in there or whatever but without a giant 13"+ aluminum case to dissipate heat that cooling fan is going to have to work overtime to provide any kind of sustained performance, and apple isn't known for using noisy fans Quite false; Apple uses noisy fans to try and sell more products to their friends all the time.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Quite false; Apple uses noisy fans to try and sell more products to their friends all the time. Damnit, I needed 10+ second to get it...
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Let's make a poll... "Apple MR device price poll! Select the price that will be closer to the real price" https://strawpoll.com/polls/YVyPmd763nN
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I’m hoping that the Apple headset will enable the sort of “virtual floating monitor” workflow that I attempted to get going with the Nreal Air’s If they do, and have it all in one unit, I’ll pay a lot of money for it.
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My bet is the new headset and the new iphone release at the same time (this fall), because they have the same internals
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I'm curious about the strap design and retention Apple went with and whether it's aimed at appealing to non enthusiasts. Like, people in general don't like putting things on their heads, and if they must then they don't want a top strap. I understand why Bigscreen's HMD originally didn't have one: only VR enthusiasts accept it. No one else wants something touching/ messing up their hair.
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Turin Turambar posted:Let's make a poll... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E In one hour
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Come on, Apple! Announce something innovative and inspiring, and alter the stagnating AR/VR industry. I can overlook a crazy price for something truly awesome, especially for a Gen 1 product. I hope this is the first Apple product I feel compelled to buy since the iPod.
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I just hope the announcement is more interesting than the Quest Pro one back in October. All I remember from that is Zuck hopping around to show he had legs, and some awful metaverse poo poo.
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The good news is Apple finally stopped introducing new products with lightning connectors, so this will almost certainly have USB-C
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Hadlock posted:The good news is Apple finally stopped introducing new products with lightning connectors, so this will almost certainly have USB-C  It has started! And I haven't seen a headset yet. 
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Lightning is trash technology gated by weird licensing bullshit. Next year (maybe this year?) they'll drop it on the iPhone due to Euro cable restrictions (creates twice as much cable trash) this year and my wife and I can stop having two cars and two charging technologies in the car and house. Her stupid phone is the only device in the house that uses dumb lightning cables
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Hadlock posted:Lightning is trash technology gated by weird licensing bullshit. Next year (maybe this year?) they'll drop it on the iPhone due to Euro cable restrictions (creates twice as much cable trash) this year and my wife and I can stop having two cars and two charging technologies in the car and house. Her stupid phone is the only device in the house that uses dumb lightning cables I went straight from Windows Mobile to Android. I don't think I've ever plugged in a Lightning cable in my life. But it's awesome they are dropping it and finally moving to USB-C
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Hadlock posted:I'm curious to see what Apple comes up with It might be worth pointing out that Apple uses Metal for their GPUs. Their OpenGL stuff has long since been deprecated and Vulkan is handled by a 3rd party wrapper library that is often buggy and incomplete. Metal is also lacking a bunch of stuff that Vulkan can do. Most games are UE / Unity, so compiling for Metal will go a long way, but that is not foolproof and there will be issues that need to be worked around.
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Hughmoris posted:
Yeah but you can give two thumbs up on zoom and get fireworks in the background
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Bad Munki posted:Yeah but you can give two thumbs up on zoom and get fireworks in the background I will self-immolate if we don't get something exciting in the next hour.
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Hughmoris posted:I will self-immolate if we don't get something exciting in the next hour. I don't think that gesture will be recognized yet.
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Bad Munki posted:I don't think that gesture will be recognized yet. The calorie burn will probably count towards my workout
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Take a drink every time they show you a way to check the weather. Wow! Weather!!
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Hughmoris posted:I will self-immolate if we don't get something exciting in the next hour. Oh, one more thing. Here ya go buddy, set the matches down.
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Bad Munki posted:Tether spotted Well that solves the TDP problem
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