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mystes
May 31, 2006

fritz posted:

idlewords 9 minutes ago | prev | next [–]

Sadly at this point geology is the last, best hope for West Coast urbanism. Something like BART could not be built today unless the Bay Area was a pile of rubble. Reconstruction is the only way to get Japan-like high density housing and transit infrastructure.
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this is a dumb post but mainly just because even with a megaquake wiping out 100% entire bay area you still wouldn't get japan-like density with american euclidean zoning

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



the OP also seems to ignore the fact that when the federal/state/municipal government really really wants to do an infrastructure thing they'll just use eminent domain to bulldoze anything and everything. they've somehow blown straight past the fact that said governments are feckless and without the will to do poo poo and gone straight to "only force majeure, an act of God can solve this"

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

mystes posted:

this is a dumb post
i see you have met maciej

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



who?

mystes
May 31, 2006

Pile Of Garbage posted:

the OP also seems to ignore the fact that when the federal/state/municipal government really really wants to do an infrastructure thing they'll just use eminent domain to bulldoze anything and everything. they've somehow blown straight past the fact that said governments are feckless and without the will to do poo poo and gone straight to "only force majeure, an act of God can solve this"
In 2023 america, I highly doubt a state could successfully use eminent domain on a wide scale to try to densify a city and build transit (even incrementally) without being stopped by the courts

On the other hand, in 2023 america, I doubt a state could even build a dense city from scratch after a megaquake. Even assuming that the existing landowners were paid enough to go away and not demand that their houses rebuilt exactly so you could start over from scratch, you would probably just end up with the new bay area being built into some dystopian nightmare like Phoenix, which seems to represent Americans' idea of the perfect city.

If cities didn't already exist the US would probably just be one giant strip mall

mystes fucked around with this message at 16:58 on May 27, 2023

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



mystes posted:

On the other hand, in 2023 america, I doubt a state could even build a dense city from scratch after a megaquake. Even assuming that the existing landowners were paid enough to go away and not demand that their houses rebuilt exactly so you could start over from scratch, you would probably just end up with the new bay area being built into some dystopian nightmare like Phoenix, which seems to represent Americans' idea of the perfect city.

imo they should do it like in NGE where japan said "gently caress it" and just built Tokyo 2, then Tokyo 3

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

mystes posted:

In 2023 america, I highly doubt a state could successfully use eminent domain on a wide scale to try to densify a city and build transit (even incrementally) without being stopped by the courts

On the other hand, in 2023 america, I doubt a state could even build a dense city from scratch after a megaquake. Even assuming that the existing landowners were paid enough to go away and not demand that their houses rebuilt exactly so you could start over from scratch, you would probably just end up with the new bay area being built into some dystopian nightmare like Phoenix, which seems to represent Americans' idea of the perfect city.

If cities didn't already exist the US would probably just be one giant strip mall

we're about to see:
https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...ry/70016013007/

https://www.townofclarksville.com/clarksville-celebrates-completion-of-new-main-street-corridor/

clarksville indiana decided they wanted a downtown, so they razed a bunch of industrial poo poo and a few old single family homes to start building out a little downtown of apartments and shops that isn't too terrible. this property is adjacent to the downtown project, and the developer has been dragging their feet on actually developing it

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

fritz posted:

idlewords 9 minutes ago | prev | next [–]

Sadly at this point geology is the last, best hope for West Coast urbanism. Something like BART could not be built today unless the Bay Area was a pile of rubble. Reconstruction is the only way to get Japan-like high density housing and transit infrastructure.
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I agree with Maciej, there isn't a really incremental path to fixing the Bay Area

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

yeah the post is specifically that the bay area is incapable of building things, moreso than elsewhere in the US

oh you want a train line? well that'll be about 20 years in california environment court facing a team of lawyers funded by atherton

bart absolutely wouldn't be feasible today

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

yadaeno 13 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]

Ive never seen Star Trek, but lets say you had an infinite food machine. The machine would have limited throughput, and it would require resources to distribute the food.

These are both problems that capitalism solves in a fair and efficient way.

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
tell me you’ve never seen Star Trek by both expressly stating that and mistaking the fundamental lore

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

"lets say you had an infinite food machine. The machine would have limited throughput, and it would require resources to distribute the food"

Motherfucker did you just rediscover farming?

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."
a socialist star trek society might build one food replicator, but would be stymied by the logistical challenges of making more and distributing them

yes, i am very knowledgeable and insightful about economics

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Internet Janitor posted:

a socialist star trek society might build one food replicator, but would be stymied by the logistical challenges of making more and distributing them

yes, i am very knowledgeable and insightful about economics

that’s simply because the emissary’s girlfriend stole them for the maquis

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
in a capitalist star trek society there would only be one food replicator, because the owner of it would correctly realise that wider distribution of the replicators would prevent them from seeking obscene rents from the outputs that it produces

food would instead be magnanimously distributed for nearly free until all local food producers are out of business, at which point prices would be cranked up as much as possible

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003
the bay area doesn't need fixing. it is the way it is because the people who own the land want it to be that way. if you want it to be different, you'd have to buy the land, and they ain't selling

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

hobbesmaster posted:

that’s simply because the emissary’s girlfriend stole them for the maquis

it's pretty wild that they still hooked up again after he sent her to prison for six months

the 24th century dating pool of captains who like baseball is pretty small, but still

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Internet Janitor posted:

a socialist star trek society might build one food replicator, but would be stymied by the logistical challenges of making more and distributing them

yes, i am very knowledgeable and insightful about economics

I simply can’t figure out how everyone doesn’t immediately understand and embrace fully automated luxury gay space communism

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."
if star trek technology existed, fully automated luxury gay space communism would honestly be pretty easy to pull off

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008
If it was really fully automated we wouldn't need to embrace it for it to work. :colbert:

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

quote:

PSA: Applying a consistent moral code when others refuse to do the same leaves you at a competitive disadvantage. It's better to play by the rules of whomever you are playing with. A thief likes to play the theft game. Murders like to play the murder game. Normal people play the polite society game. Play the game that is currently being played, not the game you think everyone should be playing.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Tired: Don't defect
Wired: Defect
Inspired: Murder the other prisoner

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
TheCaptain4815 2 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]

>> It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy.

> Nobody on Reddit has called me any of those things.

Go to any major subreddit when a political post goes up and go against the author in a calm and professional manor, then get back to us.

Personally, I'm working on a reddit bot to spam the site/pm users with the truth since they've forced censorship so hard. It's really effective so far in my early tests w/ LLAMA.

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Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jun 6, 2023

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

Posting from my calm and professional manor

mystes
May 31, 2006

that must be the new memory palace

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

smcameron 14 minutes ago | prev | next [–]

These aren't mistakes of C, these are mistakes made hundreds and hundreds of years ago in the design of various language writing systems. English gets a lot right with its writing system, mostly in its choice of a small alphabet, a small set of punctuation marks, and an almost complete absence of diacritical marks.
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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


fritz posted:

smcameron 14 minutes ago | prev | next [–]

These aren't mistakes of C, these are mistakes made hundreds and hundreds of years ago in the design of various language writing systems. English gets a lot right with its writing system, mostly in its choice of a small alphabet, a small set of punctuation marks, and an almost complete absence of diacritical marks.
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I'll probably regret this but context?

mystes
May 31, 2006

ultrafilter posted:

I'll probably regret this but context?
it appears to be a top level comment on this article about problems with different c/c++ text apis so I guess it's either a non-sequitur or they're saying that all languages should just use roman letters with no accents and we should go back to ascii or something?

mystes fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jun 7, 2023

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

ah yes, english, that superior language where spelling and pronunciation occasionally correlate

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
It's either a humorous remark treating languages as if they were designed and judging them by how well they fit into Computer, or a sincere statement by an Anglo monoglot who thinks languages other than English shouldn't be accommodated by Computer.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.




Edit: this was apparently because HNers were going all internet detectinve on the main developer, Asahi Lina, to find out her real identity.

Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jun 7, 2023

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."
even if every language on earth moved to a small unaccented alphabet, you'd still have significantly more than one of those alphabets and frequently need to use them in concert, and therefore c's approach to localization would still be woefully inadequate

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Internet Janitor posted:

even if every language on earth moved to a small unaccented alphabet, you'd still have significantly more than one of those alphabets and frequently need to use them in concert, and therefore c's approach to localization would still be woefully inadequate

the human voice can only produce so many distinct phonemes. surely we can fit them all into 8 bits and thus solve all those nasty problems caused by legacy writing systems failing to conform to what C expects

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
english’s problem is like 5% that has more sounds than letters and 95% that its assignment of spellings to sounds is simply hosed

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

english’s problem is that it was created by the english

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

Mr.Radar posted:





Edit: this was apparently because HNers were going all internet detectinve on the main developer, Asahi Lina, to find out her real identity.

every single thread about asahi linux on hn has at least one thread about the identity of the authors from people who are offended by the idea of someone wanting to be pseudoanonymous on the internet. usually has a decent amount of transphobia mixed in too.

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Dick Fontaine posted:

english’s problem is that it was created by the english

it was doing fine until the normans came along and decided what it really needed was new spellings invented by people whose native language was a french dialect

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Soricidus posted:

it was doing fine until the normans came along and decided what it really needed was new spellings invented by people whose native language was a french dialect

Normies ruin everything.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

Plorkyeran posted:

every single thread about asahi linux on hn has at least one thread about the identity of the authors from people who are offended by the idea of someone wanting to be pseudoanonymous on the internet. usually has a decent amount of transphobia mixed in too.
yes but remember how the woke nyt “doxxed” scott alexander? :qq:

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TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

lobsterminator posted:

Normies ruin everything.

:discourse:

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