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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i mean if google doesn't want to look lovely all they have to do is stop being lovely. i know i'd appreciate it

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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



eschaton posted:

the mind palace is for remembering important things like 68000 addressing modes and op codes

the line of sight is for trivial poo poo in that so-called “real” world

missed an opportunity to call it 'meatspace'

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



that reads a lot like the well-meaning white people that were melting down in the spring of 2020 because "oh my god this is a new level of racist violence in the united states i can't believe it, it didn't used to be like this"

and it's like wow tell me you didn't have any black friends growing up without telling me you didn't have any black friends growing up. and you don't wanna come down _too_ hard on those people because it's better that they're paying attention now rather than having their heads in the sand like previously, and more support against racist bullshit is a good thing. but sometimes you can make a snarky post about it a few years later

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Maximo Roboto posted:

euroderf 5 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]

All this implies that shields and/or "lasers" employ massive amounts of energy. Yet both are man-portable. What gives ?
reply

wordyskeleton 5 days ago | root | parent | next [–]

big worm on sand planet make spice that give prophetic ability. yet this is not how worms work. what gives?

YOSPOS > hn: big worm on sand planet

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Dick Fontaine posted:

What will succeed is what google now seems to optimise for - being nice and safe for coders so they can co-operate.

lmao tell me you havent been keeping up with the news without...

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



SolTerrasa posted:

how do you gently caress up a marriage so bad your divorce gets a jury trial

looks like this guy is working on the next major version of reiserfs :whitewater:

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



hobbesmaster posted:

yeah it’s great entertainment that we get the valve guys yelling at the API “vendor” in public pull requests instead of it all being done over email and tense conference calls that you desperately want to end

citation needed, i wanna read that

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004




:tipshat:

yep, that's open source all right

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Subjunctive posted:

we’ve all automated something that wasn’t worth automating

posting?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



it's a nerd saying that video game companies are bad. theyre right about that. idk why they're stumping for epic which is kind of weird but nerds tend to really love whatever corporation gives them their preferred toys so its not really unique or w/e

i think im missing something, could you please explain it to me like i'm exactly as dumb as i seem? ty

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i wear fun socks with dinosaurs and stuff. way better than maximum efficiency 14-identical-pairs

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Antigravitas posted:

Convert entirely to wearing programming socks. Mismatches are just part of the style.

did you just tell me to go gently caress myself?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i looked and couldnt find them and now im sad

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



that's a very bad rabbit. possibly the worst

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i too would rather slam my hand in the car door than slam my dick in a fire door

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



mystes posted:

Obviously it's wrong to round up everyone of a certain ethnicity just because someone of that ethnicity did something bad once because that would be racial stereotyping. But have you considered that someone of [ethnicity] did [something bad] once?

ugh please, READ THE QUOTE. people of [certain ethnicity] did [something bad] and THEN people of that very same ethnicity, did [a related bad thing].

That's TWO bad things, from people of the SAME ethnicity! Clearly it's not a one-off, better commit crimes against humanity

Ok that's a far as I can take this joke. I do not support incarceration of people of [ethnicity], regardless of how many times people of [ethnicity] have done [something bad]

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



ehhhh

quote:

If this word machine is trained on the sum of human voices and experience, then it is in some capacity human or at the very least, like it said, it has the role to immortalise us

take this as true. first consider the second side of the disjunct: "if something is trained on human voices and experience, then it has a role to immortalize us."

what is 'trained'? probably "has as input." that's boring, but ok.

so, anything that has the "sum of human voices and experience" - basically they mean "the internet", which is massively tilted towards certain perspectives, but let's ignore that for now - has a role to immortalize us. who cares? so does writing things down in a remotely durable medium. big whoop, op has said nothing at all interesting

so take the potentially interesting side of the disjunct: "if something is trained on human voices and experience, then it is in some capacity human"

so any process that has the internet as input, is in some capacity human. ok. so what? every observable system is "in some capacity" human if we can, when looking at it, anthropomorphize it. that's what it is to anthropomorphize something - view it as minded and human-like. we can anthropomorphize lots of things. dogs, bugs, rivers, ecosystems, etc. some of them we can give a logic - a framework for outcomes that could be called 'decisions' to.

so he's saying that we can view things as human. no poo poo, that's not really saying anything. whether we ascribe moral worth and so on to a system that we view as "in some capacity human" is largely dependent on how _well_ viewing it as human predicts its outputs. how well the "this is minded" hypothesis explains the behaviors. in the absence of either a particular hypothesis about mindedness of a particular system and examples about the degree to which that hypothesis actually makes sense of that system's behavior, he hasn't actually said anything worthwhile.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



ultrafilter posted:

There are interesting philosophical questions about chatbots but you're not going to find any serious discussion of them on hn.

yeah this

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



imagine reading hacker news on the actual site instead of just reading the sa mock thread

why would someone do that to themselves

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



yospos > hn thread: why is my iq only 114 when i am very intelligent?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



the world would be better if more people called self-destructive bullshit "self-destructive bullshit" instead of "self-care," called antisocial behavior "antisocial behavior" instead of "praxis," called grifting "grifting" instead of "business savvy," stinginess "stinginess" instead of "not giving handouts," and so on

of all the things to say that shame would help, though, addiction sure aint it, woof

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

mf-er acting like posting on hn isn’t deeply shameful

thread title imo

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i think calling people shitlib/succlib/whatever is more a cspam thing

mystes posted:

in javascript, probably

lol

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



yeah same

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i think "poggers" isn't actually used by normal Kids These Days, just the weird extremely online ones that would've been saying "roflcopter" out loud twenty-five years ago. "no cap," "based," etc on the other hand are just normal slang as far as i understand

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



InternetOfTwinks posted:

Me and my buddies use poggers ironically, but the one person I know who uses it sincerely I don't talk to anymore for good reasons

this just means that you use "poggers." if not now, give it some time. it happened to me and my friends with "bro" a long time ago. take as old as time.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



more proof that anyone who uses the word "normie" is not worth interacting with

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Grum posted:

chickenfeed 2 hours ago | root | parent | next [–]

So now I get my partner to pre-chew most of my foods for me.

post/username combo

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



yeah and janitors don't usually poo poo all over things but *gestures at joke*

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



lol that was my reaction too

my first dev job was for a kayak knockoff lol

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Mr.Radar posted:

Buttons840 5 minutes ago | prev | next [–]

I have mixed feelings about the word "enshitification".

Like a politician shutting down thought and debate by simply labeling something "socialism", half the people using the word don't really know what it means, or at least, they don't know the original meaning. The word comes to be fake form of intellectual sophistication. A politician says the word and people think "oh, he knows the fancy word, he must be right", and thought ends, further discussion is difficult because nobody would dare speak in defense of something after it has been labeled. Just hearing the word raises certain peoples blood pressure 10 points and causes them to raise their voice.

And yet, I'm happy to see the good guys play psyops for a change. Like the world "socialism", "enshitification" will originally mean a specific social phenomenon, but most people will come to use it as a catch-all word for all bad corporate behavior and it will shut down thought and just hearing the world will rile people up to fight against the evil corporations. And I'm okay with that; words have power and, again, I'm glad to see words being invented to help the common people organize.

huh. well. i. i dont hate them, so maybe there's hope.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



mark immune posted:

American geometry teachers got us excited about math by doing the most racist chief soh cah toa impression you could possibly imagine

my teacher just taught the word 'sohcahtoa' without racism

and also put the quadratic formula to the tune of pop goes the weasel

x is equal to the opposite of b plus or minus the square root of b squared minus four ac, all over two a

a job well done, math teacher

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



the pop goes the weasel thing was in tenth grade and i still use it

post the math raps

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



then boil it before consuming

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



source your quotes, nnt

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004




hell yeah, im gonna be hitting you up when google inevitably lays me off

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i am a big fan of ATMs that give out 50s, but i dont see them often

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i don't think elon musk can actually cram textbooks fast enough to follow along with actual discussions. that would just be learning, and he seems incapable

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



lordamercy people who don't understand how science works but can't stop acting like they do get my goat

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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i mean, every scientific theory we have is definitely wrong. but all the empirical results will be captured by future theories and current theories will be expressable with the concepts of future theories, and future theories will be able to explain the successes and failures of current theories

thinking that anything we have today is right full stop is probably not a great strategy. but i mean, they're clearly closer than what we had 10/50/100/200 years ago and all that. and it's not like we're sure how are theories are wrong, if we knew that we'd change them to be right.

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