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Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
I'd kind of like to see Mother Mickey turned into a smilie.

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Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Cocaine Bear posted:

Cause America desperately wants a monarchy.

Hamilton was ahead of his time.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

double nine posted:

I'd say 'stick to what you know' but unfortunately we're talking about cops here

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1273306927834038274

I'm the bricks stacked directly on top of each other instead of offset because they gave up halfway up the wall

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
So that's the red triangle I've been hearing about.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

I read that whole interview and lol at "Violent J" giving a better and more sincere mea culpa than 99% of public figures.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Calcifer Coal is a pro-tier Ghibli name for your child and

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

is this loss

edit to add content

https://twitter.com/Manny_Alicandro/status/1324873177416273921

Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Nov 7, 2020

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
They might have been running the 5 for 5 at the food court Arby's.

That'll do that.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Trump presidency is the most absurd poo poo

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

SeANMcBAY posted:

I stand corrected. Can’t blame me for not knowing when seeing what Biden’s people believe though.

Not really. While still many of them are bad and certainly not leftist where I'd like them, they're quite a bit different from their billionaire predecessors.

Lets not get so deep into "both sides bad" that we do "both sides same". That's just not useful.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

That's actually a pretty good tweet but a lot of folks don't want to have the conversation

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Kith posted:

there's like eight different potential conversations to strike up from that source, which one are you referencing?

That people don't talk about the fact that Bernie has the privilege to sit there like a curmudgeon while women and especially minority women often have to pretend they feel one way when they really feel another because there's repercussions for being emotionally honest for those people, and this takes labor.

It's less a criticism of Bernie and more a statement about white male privilege, and pretty true.



vvvv Might be, but people can talk about things besides mittens.

Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jan 24, 2021

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Kith posted:

hard nah

the pulp of that conversation is "it would be unacceptable for a woman to do the same thing!" and then whoops, turns out janet yellen did the exact same thing and nobody got up in arms about it

oh poo poo that totally disproves the fact that women regularly have to do the exact thing mentioned in that tweet. It turns out that emotional labor isn't real

quote:

i guess you could try the follow-up tactic of "women are pressured to smile and be pretty all the time, men should have to as well" but that's actually "it's fair for me to demand that others suffer as i have" in a lovely disguise and i hope i don't need to explain to you why that's a garbage opinion for garbage people

actually the point of that was to mention the fact that women are reguarly required to do that, i doubt that person actually is saying that simply to make other people suffer.

quote:

also it's no coincidence that it was specifically bernie that got targeted with this rhetoric, hope this helps

It's no coincidence because it's a massive meme and everywhere and people use major cultural touchstones for examples to make points

i for one am shocked that a bunch of people are mad about a slight towards noted cinnamon roll bernie and care more about defending his honor than trying to understand

Kith posted:

there definitely isn't a history of terminally online liberals attacking bernie for every conceivable imagined slight, you are correct

lol do you think this is an attack on bernie

Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 24, 2021

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Screaming Idiot posted:

Dude, shut the gently caress up about Bernie. He's a tired, cold, useless old man forced to watch a rapist who voted against desegregation and a cop who got power by literally enslaving innocent people of color take hold of the presidency and knowing he helped them to do it because he believed the alternative was worse.

Don't try to pretend he's oppressing women or whatever lib nonsense you're stuck on.

I'm a leftist who loves Bernie and nobody is accusing him of oppressing anybody.

I'm done here, it's not the right thread to have this conversation and nobody is bothering to try and understand.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Kith posted:

it absolutely is the right thread to have a conversation about it, we're Debating and Discussing the context and interpretation of the image in the D&D Pictures Thread

though for future reference you don't need to make up an excuse to exit the thread after getting pushback for your poo poo take, you're allowed to stop posting quietly

Oh if that's how you're going to play it, I'm happy to continue posting here.(yes I'm aware that was the intent of your bait)

Do you want to engage with it, or did you just show up to defend the honor of Bernie?

I'm not sure how "women frequently have to pretend to be feeling one way instead of another, due to patriarchy, and that is emotional labor" is at all controversial but if Bernie's involved there's really no stance that's too defensive, huh?

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

thekeeshman posted:

Did you miss the part where that tweet was scolding him for not faking excitement? It wasn't just pointing out that men can get away with being grumpy more, it was calling on him to do some "emotional labor" because first black/asian female VP blah blah blah

Yeah it's using a very popular meme to mention the fact that women have to do that.

Do you think she specifically thought Bernie was going to listen to her and do that?

I also like how you threw in the black/asian female VP part even though that's not in the tweet.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Kith posted:

hell yes the knives are out

alright buddy let's break down the sentence. do a little Writing Analysis here

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1352634003115954176?s=20

gonna bold the relevant parts for your convenience, because i love you


its directly addressing bernie. literally and actually. those words are pronouns, and those those mean something: "these pronouns are referencing the aforementioned specific person"

which happens to be: Bernie Sanders

this is not about Feminist Critique Of Emotional Labor. this is lashing out at Bernie Sanders using Feminist Critique as a cover to do so. this has happened before and it will happen again, and it's incredibly telling that you don't see it for the transparently disingenuous justification that it is - especially when every single defense of these actions has been torn apart with ease because they all suck. the only good faith interpretations of your take are that you're incredibly gullible or you've completely memory-holed every democratic primary that Bernie has participated in and are unwilling to do any kind of research in response to the pushback you have recived from multiple posters saying that you have a poo poo take

also lol @ "defending the honor of bernie". i'm just capable of pattern recognition and loling that you are not, don't try to make it more than what it is

LOL at all of this. Because somebody critiqued Bernie in the most minor way numerous posters, like you, came out of the woodwork to explain how terrible this was and how terrible it is that I think she has a point.

I think there's a good conversation to be had there about how Bernie gets away with a general grumpy demeanor in ways that many women can't. Of course she's directing at him, because she's using him as an example. And it's entirely possible to have a feminist critique of Bernie's behavior, out of a general frustration with having to do emotional labor. Without being part of a conspiracy from Big Lib.

But go on with your sentence deconstruction, if you get into enough semantics nobody at all will notice your dismissal of a feminist critique

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

SeANMcBAY posted:

It’s a candid picture of an 80 year old man sitting in the cold during the middle of winter. Jesus Christ, there’s no “conversation” to be had.

Sure there is, and it can be as simple as "yeah it's true women do sometimes have to do emotional labor that men do not" and left at that, but that wasn't ever going to happen here.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
^^^^ I'm happy to move this conversation elsewhere


Kith posted:

that's not a conversation, you knob. that's you being desperate for someone to pat you on the back and say "great post, OP!" as if your surface-level reading of yet another obvious bad faith attack on someone is praiseworthy

Yeah I definitely thought I was going to get a pat on the back for commenting in support of a post that was critical of Bernie on this board.

"No that's clearly a person who hate Bernie and a tool of Big Lib, you just can't see her heart of hearts like I can" isn't a conversation either

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

If there were posts of people criticizing Yellen or Warren for dressing and acting the same way Bernie did you might've had a point

poo poo I didn't realize that emotional labor isn't real if I can't find someone at the same rally to prove it

but it turns out I only had a point about emotional labor within this single event, woe is me

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Screaming Idiot posted:

Take the L and shut the gently caress up, my dude.

No.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

So the article is basically: Bernie's a racist. Why is he a racist? Because he wore mittens and a jacket and under privileged under paid women like Kamala Harris would never wear a jacket.

Does it say that? Or does it say that some of his behavior are indicative of aspects of white supremacy?

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Just read it. While it doesn't inherenty say it, it says he's basically a privileged white supremacist who can only wear jackets to the inauguration because he's a white man

Yeah, that's pretty true. It's the privilege of white men to dress down to important events.

Sounds like it's making a point you're not ready to hear and you're dealing with some fragility.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Kith posted:

Are you okay? I'm asking sincerely.

Yeah.

Have you guys like, not done at sort of study of white supremacy at all?

This is like, basic anti-racism work.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Lol so if you under dress you're channeling white supremacy? Could it be that he is a humble socialist man who drives a loving year old subaru and is wearing a jacket out of need for warmth?

I mean what should he be wearing to proclaim he isn't a white supremacists Jaxyon? What do you suggest is the proper wear.

The article isn't accusing him of being a white supremacist.

It's using him as an example of white supremacy.

Do you understand the difference?

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Kith posted:

I'm just baffled at how hard you're reaching. I'm starting to see where the red text came from.

Yeah it came from me pointing out when people were being ableist, and they also couldn't imagine somebody could criticizing them without hating whatever politics they had.

Seems to be a pretty common problem. I'm probably still going to call people out on poo poo though.

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Bernie, the white supremacist.

Can we reserve the term exclusively when people are vocally or tacitly espousing the inherent genetic supremacy of whites? It starts to lose meaning and impact real quick when the most damning example you have is Bernie Sanders goofy rear end mittens and a split second his posture was imperfect at the inauguration.

Lmao he wasn't in 24/7 awe and ecstasy at the inauguration of cop Kamala Harris and centrist neoliberal warmonger Joe Biden so he's white supremacist, give me a break guy

Just lol at fragility.txt over here. "The US is a white supremacist culture" is just really watering down the term, you see.

I'll be less dismissive: Nobody at all is calling Bernie a white supremacist. They're talking about cultural white supremacy. They're using him as an example. You are too busy getting defensive to actually engage with the topic.

Anyhow, this is the pic/video thread, here's some Bernie. I think he takes a couple of hits in this video, I bet the coders were all liberals who hate M4A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNzWrHN0ujc

Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Feb 2, 2021

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Orange Devil posted:

We've already shown you pictures of female folk who did show up dressed like Bernie.

Not a lot of poor or working class folk on the dais I'm going to guess. And there was no audience because of the pandemic this time, but presumably that audience would normally contain some poor and/or working class and/or POC folk, no? Is the claim here that most (many, all ?) of these people would show up dressed more like Harris than like Bernie?

Get loving real will ya. This argument is ridiculous on its face. And if you must be convinced, go look up how the audience was dressed during the HISTORIC INAUGURATION RITUAL OF THE DECADE of one Barack Obama in 2009.

Here, I've done it for you, timestamp 4:00. Lots of Bernie looking motherfuckers up in this bitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_UVZiPEM6o

4:00 is people in the crowd, not up on the dais.

It's a running joke that white guys barely dress up for anything. They don't have to, because they sit on top of the social hierarchy due to white supremacy.

quote:

Lastly, have you considered how US-supremacist this whole display of imperial power and grandeur is to the countless millions of people oppressed by your cruel empire across the world? Don't see anybody even mentioning this. In conclusion, gently caress your dumb rituals.

Yeah it's entirely white supremacist, I 100% agree.

But since people are getting mad at talking about social norms I figure that's another conversation.

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

I'm not white, brainiac. Us brown folks are a bit more concerned about white supremacy in the form of drone bombings and airstrikes on civilians than the sole socialist US senator's improper posture in one split second of his day. I'm not defensive, you're wasting people's time and energy on self destructive and utterly banal non-issues while the US foreign policy juggernaut continues on unimpeded, making you effectively a servant of it.

Maybe once we close Gitmo we can focus on the white supremacy of Bernie Sanders' mittens and sitting posture

Well you're doing a pretty good impression of white fragility, so my mistake.

Because I definitely said that mittens were more important than gitmo. And so did the article!

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Oh wow a "no true POC".

Nope.

But by all means project everything you want on me because I agreed with a light critique of something that wasn't even aimed at Bernie.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Oh sorry I didn't read any of those posts, just the last one.

I don't know that you did, since I didn't declare that anyone wan't a true PoC, that's something Biden did.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Are you white yourself? And you certainly put a lot more time and energy into complaining about how a dude sat at a thing one time then any kibd of actual policy which actual effects anyone.

Truly baffling choice of hill to die on. Changing how white dudes dress at the inauguration and at the Oscars is quite literally the lowest hanging fruit possible. Baby's first critique of white supremacy.

You suck so hard why is this in the pictures thread lmao

Yes, I am white. And a man. Baby's first critique of white supremacy, sure, but here are a bunch of folks somehow confusing it with the idea that Bernie is somehow a Klansman.

Two different people have put criticisms up on twitter that Bernie has male privilege and white privilege, essentially. That's true. He does. It's not really worthy of a huge conversation.

The reason it becomes a big derail is that people rush in to defend Bernie's if you agree with them. It's in the picture thread because people think even basic feminist and anti-racist discussion is an attack on him and worthy of ridicule and I don't agree.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Lifeglug posted:

The reason for the big derail is your lovely assed basic as gently caress takes. gently caress off man.

"If we talk about white supremacy then actually that means we're accusing Bernie of being an active racist"

is actually the basic lovely take here

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

ASAPRockySituation posted:

Nobody came to the Pictures thread to discuss forum poster Jaxyon’s uneducated bone to pick with his ideological enemy. How about you talk to people in The Minority Rapport and see if they think you are an appropriate messenger based on your ID pol and your knowledge?

What ideological enemy? I love Bernie.

Does any discussion of white supremacy have to be forced into the minority subforum or are we allowed to talk about it outside that?

Here's a picture

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
^^^^ I'm done with it.

The Bloop posted:

Indeed YOU are the only anti-racist person itt and possibly in the entire world. If dozens of people are telling you that your take on this is poo poo, they must all be deep-cover crypto-racists themselves!

Nope, never said I was at all. But thinking that mentioning white supremacy in culture means that Bernie is a deep cover crypto-racist is a pretty basic mistake for an anti-racist to make.

Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Feb 2, 2021

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
"I am here live and I am not a cat."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGOofzZOyl8

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Milo and POTUS posted:

Oh gently caress.

Well it was nice posting with you all.

He's a nazi I think you're OK

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

I would watch a lot more of this than I am happy to admit.

Yeah if whomever is making this can do like a bunch of these

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1382747507265048584

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
edit: nvm

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Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

That dog and human were on the Amazon dog competition show The Pack.

I feel so bad for that dog.

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