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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

i'm definitely buying this one and i'll check back in later. i'm a 100% purchase on sight sucker for games where you build a space station. it doesn't look very great to me but even the caution of early access isn't enough to restrain my lust for this microgenre

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a slime
Apr 11, 2005

luxury handset posted:

i'm definitely buying this one and i'll check back in later. i'm a 100% purchase on sight sucker for games where you build a space station. it doesn't look very great to me but even the caution of early access isn't enough to restrain my lust for this microgenre

Yeah this sums it up for me. I don’t have high hopes but I am absolutely buying it.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

luxury handset posted:

i'm definitely buying this one and i'll check back in later. i'm a 100% purchase on sight sucker for games where you build a space station. it doesn't look very great to me but even the caution of early access isn't enough to restrain my lust for this microgenre
Let me tell you how much I love this genre.

I bought Spacebase DF-9 and do not regret it.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


a slime posted:

Yeah this sums it up for me. I don’t have high hopes but I am absolutely buying it.

I was burned earlier this year by one that simply didn't work. Can't even remember the name, just that it was bad enough I refunded on Steam.

Just Offscreen
Jun 29, 2006

We must hope that our current selves will one day step aside to make room for better versions of us.
I miss Startopia.

Ichabod Sexbeast
Dec 5, 2011

Giving 'em the old razzle-dazzle
"It's been described as Rimworld plus ONI plus Space, and..."

I'm loving in, my card is ready

bgreman
Oct 8, 2005

ASK ME ABOUT STICKING WITH A YEARS-LONG LETS PLAY OF THE MOST COMPLICATED SPACE SIMULATION GAME INVENTED, PLAYING BOTH SIDES, AND SPENDING HOURS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENSURE INTERNET STRANGERS ENJOY THEMSELVES
Space Haven reminds me a lot of the upcoming Ostranauts, from the guy who did NEO Scavenger.

SH seems much further along and both taller and wider in scope.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Let us know what you all think, the game looks pretty rad I hope it is :ohdear:

Edit: Welp the reviews are good enough that I caved :f5:

explosivo fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 21, 2020

Ichabod Sexbeast
Dec 5, 2011

Giving 'em the old razzle-dazzle
Goes without saying needs more content, but there's enough here to be fun, and the system has some good bones

All my guys shat themselves on the first day and were walking around grumpy about their lovely pants for ages though

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Splicer posted:

Thanks!

Follow up: Is surviving the aftermath the same deal or does it bring something new to the table?

Surviving the Aftermath is also fully 'Banished but Postapocalyptic'. Haven't played Endzone myself so I can't compare, but StA was a decent enough set of bones at EA launch a few months ago and looks to have been getting pretty regular and large updates since. If it's your kind of game, StA at least is unlikely to be a disappointment, though whether it's the best option I couldn't tell you.

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

Goes without saying needs more content, but there's enough here to be fun, and the system has some good bones

All my guys shat themselves on the first day and were walking around grumpy about their lovely pants for ages though

? You already said it was fun.

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 21:16 on May 21, 2020

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

Goes without saying needs more content, but there's enough here to be fun, and the system has some good bones

All my guys shat themselves on the first day and were walking around grumpy about their lovely pants for ages though

Yeah I've played for around an hour but it seems pretty neat so far. I wasn't feeling it off the bat but that might be more due to the so-so tutorial more than anything.

Edit: That said, I'm not sure if I'm going to hang onto it or refund it yet. I really like what's there but think with a bunch more early access time it can become truly great.

explosivo fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 21, 2020

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

explosivo posted:

Yeah I've played for around an hour but it seems pretty neat so far. I wasn't feeling it off the bat but that might be more due to the so-so tutorial more than anything.

Edit: That said, I'm not sure if I'm going to hang onto it or refund it yet. I really like what's there but think with a bunch more early access time it can become truly great.
Has that weird thing where you can rotate everything individually but you can't rotate the actual map, which is always kind of a pain in an isometric builder.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
how's the person to person combat? looked fairly rote in the streams i saw

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
building ships fun so far. it really nails that same mood of spacebase df-9 but with like, actual content. i like that the ships feel very cramped and in that chunky 80's functional style. still very early impressions but it seems like solid work. deffo in the honeymoon phase for me though and barely out of the tutorial

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


Surviving the Apocalypse is good right now. It’s closer to Tropico or Banished, but it has good ideas about what it wants to be. I’d say it’s worth it’s current price, but it has a “mid” early access vibe. Theres a decent amount to do and it has a definite early to mid game transition, but once you hit very late it’s just expansion of more of the same - Kind of vanilla Banished.

I have not played endzone. It has enough various red flags that StA seems like the superior offering of the two and further, I’m not sure it would offer anything StA doesn’t.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
I've been playing a lot of Anno 1800 this week and have been enjoying it, despite the existence of escort missions, and what feels like wild swings in your income due to minor blips in your production.

Burning Rain
Jul 17, 2006

What's happening?!?!
Something I wish I knew about Anno 1800 before starting - if you make an alliance, be ready to be pressed in neverending wars.

Fhqwhgads
Jul 18, 2003

I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID

Burning Rain posted:

Something I wish I knew about Anno 1800 before starting - if you make an alliance, be ready to be pressed in neverending wars.

I've never played a game where allying with the AI was ever a good idea.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Burning Rain posted:

Something I wish I knew about Anno 1800 before starting - if you make an alliance, be ready to be pressed in neverending wars.

Oh god yeah. I took an alliance because I figured "why not." then was shortly thrust into a "war" against the AI player with the most control of the map. I say "war" because it was mostly just the AI harassing me while my ally does nothing.

Later a pirate offered a ceasefire (which I had to pay for) that I accepted after countless turndowns because I figured maybe I could work them to a non-hostile state. Like 20 minutes later my ally is like "YOU FIGHT MY ENEMIES TOO."

That said I've managed to reach a point where I'm making enough money to slowly buy out islands from the hostile AI. Feels pretty satisfying slowly eroding their empire.

Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 14:19 on May 22, 2020

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.

Burning Rain posted:

Something I wish I knew about Anno 1800 before starting - if you make an alliance, be ready to be pressed in neverending wars.

Oxyclean posted:

Oh god yeah. I took an alliance because I figured "why not." then was shortly thrust into a "war" against the AI player with the most control of the map. I say "war" because it was mostly just the AI harassing me while my ally does nothing.

Later a pirate offered a ceasefire (which I had to pay for) that I accepted after countless turndowns because I figured maybe I could work them to a non-hostile state. Like 20 minutes later my ally is like "YOU FIGHT MY ENEMIES TOO."

That said I've managed to reach a point where I'm making enough money to slowly buy out islands from the hostile AI. Feels pretty satisfying slowly eroding their empire.

So the diplomacy in 1800 is kind of weird in that the only faction worth actually getting high diplomacy with is the pirates, specifically the lady pirate. Once she is friendly she buys infinite schnapps, beer and rum(lol) at exceptional prices and sells the best boat upgrades from her port. She’ll also harass everyone else’s boats with her slowly snowballing patrols and leave you alone.

The other AI players on the other hand you just want friendly enough they don’t bother you, because they don’t actually actively trade with you. Instead they request goods at their harbors and you have to manually send them, and they only want 50 max of any good at a time.

You befriend lady pirate by taking every ceasefire you can and the occasional gift until she’s neutral enough to allow trades, then sell her booze forever. She’ll love you after that.

Burning Rain
Jul 17, 2006

What's happening?!?!

Oxyclean posted:

That said I've managed to reach a point where I'm making enough money to slowly buy out islands from the hostile AI. Feels pretty satisfying slowly eroding their empire.

That's another lesson I learned the hard way - you go to war when you take over the opponent's island. I don't remember if that was the case in ye olde Annos, but that took me by surprise.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
Does space haven have multiplayer? I'd love to build a station with a couple friends. Kinda like Space Engineers but hopefully a little less grindy.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
A game called Northgard is on sale at GoG (https://www.gog.com/game/northgard?...=northgard_game)

Does anyone knows anything about it? Seems like Settlers or something

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Trivia posted:

Does space haven have multiplayer? I'd love to build a station with a couple friends. Kinda like Space Engineers but hopefully a little less grindy.

single player only

the devs have said limited multiplayer may be possible but not simultaneous play, more like exploring other people's ships and such

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
BAH I wanted something like Space Station 13 where things go to poo poo and everyone has to try to fix it.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Elias_Maluco posted:

A game called Northgard is on sale at GoG (https://www.gog.com/game/northgard?...=northgard_game)

Does anyone knows anything about it? Seems like Settlers or something

Yeah it's more of an RTS strategy/combat game than a basebuilder/management style game. Very good for what it is, but just not in this sub genre.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Mayveena posted:

Yeah it's more of an RTS strategy/combat game than a basebuilder/management style game. Very good for what it is, but just not in this sub genre.

I see, not my cup of tea then

Thanks

Theres also Space Haven on sale
https://www.gog.com/game/space_have...pace_haven_game

Which seems more like a management game, but mixed with FTL. Seems interesting

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Burning Rain posted:

That's another lesson I learned the hard way - you go to war when you take over the opponent's island. I don't remember if that was the case in ye olde Annos, but that took me by surprise.
Oh, good to know. I was considering the possibility of buying out other AIs but didn't realize shares were essentially a war deceleration. I guess it's basically a hostile takeover.

Mazz posted:

You befriend lady pirate by taking every ceasefire you can and the occasional gift until she’s neutral enough to allow trades, then sell her booze forever. She’ll love you after that.
I guess I'll have to start doing that. I was turning them all down because she'd ask for money for a ceasefire right after I sunk one of her ships. I only finally took one after she offered me money. Hope my ally doesn't put me at war with them again. (Or I might just break off the alliance to avoid that.)

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Elias_Maluco posted:

A game called Northgard is on sale at GoG (https://www.gog.com/game/northgard?...=northgard_game)

Does anyone knows anything about it? Seems like Settlers or something
I have 128 hours on steam and I would call it a rts with survival elements. Pretty fun if frustrating at times but it's definitely rts at heart. Much faster paced and smaller scale than Settlers and your vikings can starve, freeze or get killed by animals/undead with multiple ways to win.

Eldred
Feb 19, 2004
Weight gain is impossible.

Fhqwhgads posted:

I've never played a game where allying with the AI was ever a good idea.

Not a management game but have you ever played Europa Universalis 4? It's the one game I've ever played where this doesn't hold because there are a lot of constraints on the player's power, especially early on. I've heard bad things about the direction of the game in the couple years since I quit though so maybe that's changed since.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Eldred posted:

Not a management game but have you ever played Europa Universalis 4? It's the one game I've ever played where this doesn't hold because there are a lot of constraints on the player's power, especially early on. I've heard bad things about the direction of the game in the couple years since I quit though so maybe that's changed since.

On the other hand, never ally Perfidious Albion.

Hawke
May 1, 2008
Haven't gotten around to using the hyperdrive yet in Space Haven but I'm really liking it so far, it's still a pretty early access title but I've already got enough value out of it just for finally being able to find a derelict ship and salvage it for once instead of just poking around then going home like most games force you into.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I am excited for Space Haven once its had a few content patches and my need for a new Rimworld like fully blossoms. I was worried I might impulse buy the Rimworld expansion if that ever happened without an alternative but looks like that alternative might be here.

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 102 days!
Put some hours into Space Haven today because I'm a rube who will always buy every Dwarf Fortress. It's pretty fun though not especially ground-breaking so far. I found it funny that the whole premise of the game is the consequences of endless consumption and the solution is to strip mine derelicts and asteroids and move on.

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


How does it run on old PCs? I have a surface pro 4 for at least a little while since I decided to quarantine with my dad for awhile.

About to boot prison architect. Hope that handles OK.

Spaseman
Aug 26, 2007

I'm a Securitron
RobCo security model 2060-B.
If you ever see any of my brothers tell them Victor says howdy.
Fallen Rib
Does anyone know if Space Haven plays like Rim World where the game gets continually more difficult until you reach a failure state or Dwarf Fortress where you could keep playing indefinitely?

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Giving it a try atm, it's a bit of a slow starter - haven't even gotten the hyperdrive going yet.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Spaseman posted:

Does anyone know if Space Haven plays like Rim World where the game gets continually more difficult until you reach a failure state or Dwarf Fortress where you could keep playing indefinitely?

I got attacked by a hostile ship like, five jumps in. I was just getting the hang of salvaging things and figuring out the storage system.

I don’t know if it’s exponential or if it just has a learning wall, though.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

I'm checking out Anno 1800 again for the first time since the first few weeks after launch and it looks like they really polished this since then. My biggest complaint back then was a lot of the data was hidden and I'm pretty sure they added this whole statistics panel that gives you more information than you could possibly need post launch. It still runs kinda poorly for me though, I'm not sure what it is that kills my performance and you need to restart for like every change so it's kind of a bitch to figure out.

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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Spaseman posted:

Does anyone know if Space Haven plays like Rim World where the game gets continually more difficult until you reach a failure state or Dwarf Fortress where you could keep playing indefinitely?

its not structured to keep increasing the difficulty, no. i think it's more random

my problem with space haven is i keep restarting and refining my spaceship build, before actually going around and exploring and such. the spaceship building is like 80% of the game

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