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Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH

Gun Devil shows up in America, gets chumped by local heavyweight Brown People Devil

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HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.





The final boss will be Socialism Devil

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000



Mr.Unique-Name posted:

It occurs to me they haven't really mentioned devils formed out of primal fears, have they? Like a lot people are really afraid of weapons and forces of nature and sharks and blood, but effectively every human is afraid of the unknown and death and I'd think darkness would rank pretty high too.

Maybe those devils are more passive since they don't need to do much to encourage the fear or remind people of them.

Speculation Makimas gotta be contracted with the Devil of Heights, right? She splatted everyone and needed to be up high to use it

LostRook
Jun 7, 2013


Meme Emulator posted:

Speculation Makimas gotta be contracted with the Devil of Heights, right? She splatted everyone and needed to be up high to use it

Temple, specifically. My guess is Death or God devil.

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?

Ramrod XTreme

Chainsaw man is basically the Hindu religion with a supernatural being for almost everything.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Meme Emulator posted:

Speculation Makimas gotta be contracted with the Devil of Heights, right? She splatted everyone and needed to be up high to use it

Plausible enough. Of course, it's possible to be contracted with multiple devils at once. Aki did it, and it's not treated like a unique state of affairs. Might be worth laying out some of what we know, for posterity.


First off, what we can eliminate, as long as Fujimoto is playing fair. Makima isn't a fiend like Power or Beam because she's got a normal person head. Fiends have some aspect of their faces that's a dead giveaway according to chapter four, so Makima would be rumbled pretty quick. Further, if she really does have a contract as she indicated in the temple scene, rather than just lying to cover up her real methods, then she can't be a Devil, since only humans can make contracts. The bit acts like a contract too, with payment for service rather than innate ability only limited by blood.

She's also not the Gun Devil, despite some paranoid theories, since she can pick up its parts with her bare hands without them sticking, and because they aren't leading to her. All simple enough.

Now that’s done, we can move onto the positives. She’s got odd eyes, but those could come from a contract as easily as anything else. Snake Devil girl had Snake Eyes, and she was a contractor. But contracts don’t let you return from the dead when you get a little blood on you. And Makima’s known contract requires a lot of setup. Setup she didn’t have when going through the train like the wrath of an angry god. (It’s unclear if she restricted herself to the culprits or went for a clean sweep. Knowing what we know of Makima, both seem plausible.) She’s got similar emotional reactions to Denji, which seems to be common to, well, people like Denji. (Also Reze, apparently. She’s sorry for having to kill Denji, and doesn’t go to massacre as a first solution, but she has no real problem with just icing everyone.) Best bet right now seems to be that she’s covertly like Denji and Reze, but with some contracts on top.

As for her agenda… well, the strongest negative emotional response we’ve seen from her talking to people was when the old hunter said he was getting tired of training Denji and Power. Combined with her whole helping Denji through his emotional crises, she probably really likes him, especially when her bosses chide her for it. At the same time, the moment that makes Kishibe want to stop is seeing how gung ho for Makima Denji is. Apparently, that sort of thing and death aren’t exactly distant.

Makima also smiles when Kishibe calls her on her PR bullshit excuse of “For the good of everyone!” when he brings up her letting most of her team get murdered. So, that’s really reassuring.

Weirdest theory I’ve seen says that she’s got a connection to the afterlife somehow because of her movie habit, since movie theaters were tied to the afterlife in Fire Punch. Which… doesn’t actually feel entirely crazy with Makima’s other abilities.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013


chiasaur11 posted:

Plausible enough. Of course, it's possible to be contracted with multiple devils at once. Aki did it, and it's not treated like a unique state of affairs. Might be worth laying out some of what we know, for posterity.


First off, what we can eliminate, as long as Fujimoto is playing fair. Makima isn't a fiend like Power or Beam because she's got a normal person head. Fiends have some aspect of their faces that's a dead giveaway according to chapter four, so Makima would be rumbled pretty quick. Further, if she really does have a contract as she indicated in the temple scene, rather than just lying to cover up her real methods, then she can't be a Devil, since only humans can make contracts. The bit acts like a contract too, with payment for service rather than innate ability only limited by blood.

She's also not the Gun Devil, despite some paranoid theories, since she can pick up its parts with her bare hands without them sticking, and because they aren't leading to her. All simple enough.

Now that’s done, we can move onto the positives. She’s got odd eyes, but those could come from a contract as easily as anything else. Snake Devil girl had Snake Eyes, and she was a contractor. But contracts don’t let you return from the dead when you get a little blood on you. And Makima’s known contract requires a lot of setup. Setup she didn’t have when going through the train like the wrath of an angry god. (It’s unclear if she restricted herself to the culprits or went for a clean sweep. Knowing what we know of Makima, both seem plausible.) She’s got similar emotional reactions to Denji, which seems to be common to, well, people like Denji. (Also Reze, apparently. She’s sorry for having to kill Denji, and doesn’t go to massacre as a first solution, but she has no real problem with just icing everyone.) Best bet right now seems to be that she’s covertly like Denji and Reze, but with some contracts on top.

As for her agenda… well, the strongest negative emotional response we’ve seen from her talking to people was when the old hunter said he was getting tired of training Denji and Power. Combined with her whole helping Denji through his emotional crises, she probably really likes him, especially when her bosses chide her for it. At the same time, the moment that makes Kishibe want to stop is seeing how gung ho for Makima Denji is. Apparently, that sort of thing and death aren’t exactly distant.

Makima also smiles when Kishibe calls her on her PR bullshit excuse of “For the good of everyone!” when he brings up her letting most of her team get murdered. So, that’s really reassuring.

Weirdest theory I’ve seen says that she’s got a connection to the afterlife somehow because of her movie habit, since movie theaters were tied to the afterlife in Fire Punch. Which… doesn’t actually feel entirely crazy with Makima’s other abilities.



Adding to that.
So far it seems Makima needs a sacrifice to use her powers. And the sacrifice needs to say the name of her target. It's currently unclear if she always has to sacrifice others or if she uses others so she can keep living.

Her eyes are weird concentric circles.
I wonder if they're somehow related to her power. Maybe it's the depth demon or something. If it's related to depths, saying the targets name could be like an echo effect.

Vonnie
Sep 13, 2011


I'm the "Left the oven on" devil.

Mary Annette
Jun 24, 2005



"Accidentally Replied All" devil for me.

Poltergrift
Feb 16, 2014



"When I grow up, I'm gonna be a proper swordsman. One with clothes."


I figured Makima was contracted with the (speculation) Sacrifice Devil, i.e. people's fear that they're going to be sacrificed by powerful entities (governments, mostly, but cults sometimes) pursuing abstract, inscrutable goals, which don't give a poo poo about the people they sacrifice except as fodder. Like... "fear of being killed for the greater good, which doesn't even give you a chance to object or flee because killing you is the Right Thing To Do."

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014



Guys, I think we're all discounting the SLEEP PARALYSIS DEVIL, the real OG of the block.

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH

Nah, he's actually really weak because whenever he does anything it gets blamed on other devils, like Succubus Devil and Slender Man Devil.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013


Elfface posted:

Nah, he's actually really weak because whenever he does anything it gets blamed on other devils, like Succubus Devil and Slender Man Devil.

Was just thinking this lol. Every time I hear sleep paralysis invoked it's "Okay I know what sleep paralysis is and I know how many ghost stories are just that but *goes on to describe a textbook example of sleep paralysis* you can't explain that!"

Amazing chapter. God I am so stressed for Aki all the time, he's too pure for this world. Wonder if in anyway he'll rub off on Angel. I am assuming Bomb is like Sword and Chainsaw and Reze is the real danger rather than the Bomb Devil. Like she's in the driver seat.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

Would a Nightmare Devil just be not!Freddy Kruger?

Tiramisu
Dec 25, 2006

Hey, where did you go!? Do you really dislike seeing my face that much!?

I’m the fear of commitment devil.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.


The mondays devil.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013


Angry Lobster posted:

The mondays devil.

You can't post that on a Sunday man. That's too real

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



In this week's Chainsaw Man, everything is fine.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007


that stupid fox

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?

That scene at the car was straight up horror movie material.
That smile she gave looked straight out of Alien.

Also obligatory Reze is good at giving head pun

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013


Oxxidation posted:

that stupid fox

That was hilarious.
Eats villain.
"Blech, this sucks, I'm leaving."
Leaves undigested villain behind.


Even though it went as expected, it was still a pretty tense chapter.

Mold dudes had a pretty good idea.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006




They really hate that flavor, apparently. Remember Katana?

"What the hell did you just make me ea-"

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

It's a shame all that information about the Fox Devil not working on humans that can go devil wasn't spread around but what can you do?

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?

Ramrod XTreme

HerraS posted:

The final boss will be Socialism Devil

Except the devil only has power over boomers. He’s completely powerless over genx, millennials or zoomers

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014



Millennials and Zoomers weren't around in the 80s, so Socialism Devil is all-powerful

Torquemadras
Jun 3, 2013



Oh wow, this manga sure likes mowing down devil hunters

I'm honestly surprised there's, like, any left at all

Namnesor
Jun 29, 2005

Dante's allowance - $100


Torquemadras posted:

Oh wow, this manga sure likes mowing down devil hunters

I'm honestly surprised there's, like, any left at all

"Make a lot of money and then die" is an enticing prospect for a lot of young people.

The Lobotomy Kid
Aug 27, 2011

and act like a nut.

What if they had a frickin... Mother In-Law Devil.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013


Hypocrisy posted:

It's a shame all that information about the Fox Devil not working on humans that can go devil wasn't spread around but what can you do?

Lol ya, they've been badly owned twice now by successfully eating an enemy only for Kon to be like gently caress this. Please be safe Aki.

Wonderful chapter, the Bomb Devil rules. Maybe we'll see Angel fight

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011



It makes since that the fox devil is worthless. Is there anybody afraid of foxes outside of farmers worried about their chickens?

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013


Lol true but I guess they've more mythology about fox demons in Japan right? Regardless they need to stop relying on this mf.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007


EmmyOk posted:

Lol true but I guess they've more mythology about fox demons in Japan right? Regardless they need to stop relying on this mf.

all his remaining contractors are dead so that seems like a problem that'll solve itself

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?

Kinda feels like Fujimoto is poking fun at the nintetails from Naruto.

yum
Oct 27, 2005


The fox demon being unreliable fits its fickle and superficial personality. After all, it only lends its head to pretty boys like Aki and that player vice captain, seems natural it dips the moment things get tough

DeadBonesBrook
May 31, 2011


The average devil hunter is just the Chainsaw Man equivalent to the Anbu in Naruto. They exist to have a mildly intriguing gimmick and to make the current enemy look strong.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013


Don't give up on love Denji.

Also, ace chapter. Loved the new strategies employed the the reinforcements.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007


that stupid violence devil

Jose
Jul 24, 2007



seems a fairly important development that denji specifically doesn't want people to die because of him

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?

"Everyone is always asking, who's a good Chainsaw Man. Never how's the Chainsaw Man?"

I loving love the violence devil just yeeting it outta there the second things looked bad. He's definitely not a good boy like Beam.

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Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

Props to Violence Devil for leaving Kobeni for dead.

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