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 Mentioned it on the Shounen thread, making it now. Kinnikuman is one of the oldest and most influential Shounen manga that are still running. Written by the duo Yudetamago (writer Takashi Shimada and artist Yoshinori Nakai, it started serialization forty years ago, in 1979, as a parody of popular Tokusatsu show Ultraman starring the eponymous alien 'superhero', a lazy and cowardly idiot who frequently bumbled his way into victory and fought bizarre creatures. Eventually, however, all changed when the wrestling fanatic authors started a superhuman wrassling arc that got massive popularity and immediately shifted the Manga's focus from gag humor to wrasslin' shounen, with melodramatic plots, heroic and villainous fighting gimmicks and finishing moves that indeed wouldn't feel out of a wrestling storyline at all. Eventually the Manga ended its first phase in the 36th volume in 1987, and ten years later the sequel Kinnikuman Nisei (localized in the west as Ultimate Muscle) begins, telling the story of Kinnikuman's son, Mantaro, and his reluctant struggle to follow his father's footsteps. Nisei eventually ended in 2011 with an incredible arc where the 'New Generation' of supermen travels back in time to stop time traveling bad guys and find themselves on the time of the original Kinnikuman generation. Soon after Nisei's end, however, new chapters of the original Kinnikuman begin serialization, taking place just after where the last arc of the late 80s ended and are still ongoing, making it perhaps one of the longest running Shounen manga in existence. I strongly recommend reading it because the modern arcs are real good, with far more polished art, tight fights and great characterization of all the characters old and new. Original Kinnikuman manga, also includes the new chapters from volume 37 on The Time Choujin arc of Kinnikuman Nisei Plutonis fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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To give an idea how influential this manga is btw the original finishing move of Kinnikuman himself has been used in irl wrestling by a lot of people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuFGFPZHaAw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXQH8DjsQEo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-_mRbc5PE
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Oct 25, 2019 01:23
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The first two OPs to the original anime are all time greats as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPfqyGtKcVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6F-vOk-4ms Even though Kinnikuman doesn't have much of a presence in the west, it's undoubtedly had a huge influence on the manga and anime industry, being a huge inspiration for Akira Toriyama's Dragonball and many other shounen and comedy series to follow suit.
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Oct 25, 2019 02:14
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Kinnikuman is my favorite lazy day show, it's quick and entertaining and has a good mix of juvenile jokes and earnest super power action. Probably has some of the most creative designs in anime The spinoff Tatakae!! Ramenman is really good too, it's a martial arts show that's played completely straight, one episode has Ramenman teach a five year old martial arts so he can avenge the murder of his parents
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Oct 25, 2019 02:25
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I really need to read this because so many of the gags in Bobobo-Bo Bo-Bobo are Kinnikuman references.
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Oct 25, 2019 19:34
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Julias posted:The first two OPs to the original anime are all time greats as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRwJvOm395E
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Oct 29, 2019 20:50
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Was the anime any good? I know it got fansubbed but never bothered with it much past like the 1st 2 or 3 episodes where it was still just goofy.
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Nov 4, 2019 22:58
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Irritated Goat posted:Was the anime any good? I know it got fansubbed but never bothered with it much past like the 1st 2 or 3 episodes where it was still just goofy. A lot of the earlier stuff is goofy and you do get shonen pacing in parts, but the later arcs have really good tension and character moments yeah.
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Nov 5, 2019 02:21
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HnG Muscle Subs released up to 86 back in April. There's not a lot for Ni Sei though. I think someone's redoing them but very very slowly. So far, the manga has been terrific. It's ridiculous but in a good way.
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Nov 6, 2019 16:20
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drat imagine if irl wrestling was like this 
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Nov 8, 2019 16:41
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I remember both Ultimate Muscle and Shaman King being part of 4Kids’ golden age where the looser s&p of Fox allowed them to get away with more in terms of violence and, more importantly for UM, potty humour when compared to the WB. Heck, I mind UM doing so good for 4Kids that thy funded the last arc themselves and built a pretty good rapport between themselves and Toei which was subsequently pissed away with One Piece.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:35
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If I remember correctly, Shaman King actually kind of bit them in the rear end, because they were actively trying to not make a hosed up turbo-censored dub (in response to how badly everyone reacted to One Piece) and, because they did it to the shonen where a major villain is a psychotic surgeon lugging his dead wife's rotting corpse around, it resulted in piles upon piles of "WHAT THE gently caress WHY ARE YOU EXPOSING MY CHILDREN TO THIS" letters from angry parents.
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Nov 9, 2019 02:46
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I was under the impression that the order of play was;
Course, this is speculation of what happened behind closed doors some 15 years ago so who knows but the people who were there, I ‘spose. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Nov 10, 2019 |
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Nov 9, 2019 07:12
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Dik Dik van Dik will forever remain in the Names Hall of Fame.
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Nov 9, 2019 08:15
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Can't say I expected this to get a thread on SA, but sure as hell can't say I mind, either. Also seconding the glory of Dik Dik van Dik. Even when I forgot Ultimate Muscle, a part of me remembered he was a thing.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:08
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I'm under the impression most of the renames were fine and certainly not insane leaps of logic like changing Hao's name to Zeke. Dik Dik was probably the most esoteric to the point where one of the commericals for UM was him having a breakdown about what his name ment ("I'm a buck, a dear, that's what a dik dik is!") and some of the more daft ones might have been lifts from the M.U.S.C.L.E. line. So, uh, any recomendations on where I start with all this? Something like "Read this for person x's intro and then hit Y for shift to wrestling"? ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Nov 10, 2019 |
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Nov 10, 2019 14:46
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ConanThe3rd posted:I'm under the impression most of the renames were fine and certainly not insane leaps of logic like changing Hao's name to Zeke. Dik Dik was probably the most esoteric to the point where one of the commericals for UM was him having a breakdown about what his name ment ("I'm a buck, a dear, that's what a dik dik is!") and some of the more daft ones might have been lifts from the M.U.S.C.L.E. line. Start from chapter 1 of the Kinnikuman manga and go on from there. Can't be any simpler than that. It's fan translated although the translations...aren't great for the older material. They're still readable, but not necessarily gramatically perfect. The newer material has much better translations, thankfully.
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Nov 10, 2019 16:33
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The Nisei translations are all over the place. They are getting new chapters regularly but there's hundreds of chapters that got skipped so I look and uhhh turns out Scarface is a Justice Chojin now???
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The Nisei chapters being missing might have to do with Viz's run of series. Edit: ah, even the Tag Team Arc seems to be missing a chunk. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Nov 10, 2019 |
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Nov 10, 2019 19:24
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The Omega Centaurians arc is so loving good god drat. Omegaman Aristera is a 100% a hero that happens to be on the wrong side, dude loves his friends and family but just happened to be too consumed by revenge.
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Plutonis posted:The Omega Centaurians arc is so loving good god drat. Omegaman Aristera is a 100% a hero that happens to be on the wrong side, dude loves his friends and family but just happened to be too consumed by revenge. It's genuinely impressive how good the villain writing has been ever since the series restarted. I feel no villain has been two-dimensional, they all have clear goals and motivations and you can even find yourself rooting for them, since even if they're ultimately wrong they're compelling and understandable. I mean of course I still want Ataru to beat Aristera but I want it because I want Aristera to realize that revenge is pointless and finally fully awaken his Hellfire Inner Strength and save his world, not because I want him grinded to dust.
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Okay so I'm reading this because of this thread and it took a while to get good but Kinnikuman just used the power of farts to fart his way out of a pocket dimension he was trapped in by a wrestler with a donut head and I'm ready to call this art.
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Is that the Black Hole fight? The whole Devil Supermen arc owns bones not the least because it's where Buffaloman debuted
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Dec 10, 2019 23:42
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HerraS posted:Is that the Black Hole fight? The whole Devil Supermen arc owns bones not the least because it's where Buffaloman debuted Sure is!
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Buffaloman is so loving cool they even game him the second best theme out of everyone DEVIRU DEVIRU BUFFALO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu9Qqlgh_Bg Warsman has by far the best one tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgwLiluKwNQ
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Julias posted:The first two OPs to the original anime are all time greats as well "In the west" my rear end, latinoamérica got the original series dubbed all through the nineties and noughties. I am kinda salty it dropped off halfway through the black hole fight. Hrmm. I remember back a few years ago a translation group was doing a lot of redrawing and retranslating the Kinnikuman manga. I don't remember what group was it since I was reading it on mangafox and that site went to poo poo.
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Siegkrow posted:Hrmm. I remember back a few years ago a translation group was doing a lot of redrawing and retranslating the Kinnikuman manga. The Kinnikuman manga is fully translated already. The original part of the manga has a...rough translation though, not terrible, but with more than a few grammar errors, clearly not made by a native English speaker. Still, readable and worthwhile. The new chapters have top-tier translations though.
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Can I just say that I had a hearty  at the new series starting the first tournament with acknowledging that Brocken Jr. was the ultimate jobber in the original and giving him an actual win
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HerraS posted:Can I just say that I had a hearty I wish more series did the same honestly. Let the jobbers have a chance at the spotlight too.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I wish more series did the same honestly. Let the jobbers have a chance at the spotlight too. I mean, hasn't that been Revival in general? Hell, they gave my boy Black Hole two whole matches. Two!
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The Bee posted:I mean, hasn't that been Revival in general? Hell, they gave my boy Black Hole two whole matches. Two! Hence why I said "more series". It's insane how good Kinnikuman has been about giving minor characters the spotlight since it returned. Hell, the titular character himself has gotten pretty sidelined, with the big bad matches usually being done by others (like Justiceman this arc or The Man before) which is unthinkable in shonen.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Hence why I said "more series". It's insane how good Kinnikuman has been about giving minor characters the spotlight since it returned. Hell, the titular character himself has gotten pretty sidelined, with the big bad matches usually being done by others (like Justiceman this arc or The Man before) which is unthinkable in shonen. Oh, I know. I just found it funny Brocken Jr was the example when far more minor characters from every arc but Neptuneman's have been getting a ton of spotlight. I mean, for crying out loud, Wolfman and Big Body got their Ws this arc!
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Bumping to say that the Omega Centaurian arc just ended and a new manga series is starting in August. Looking forward to see Kinnikuman and his buddies fight the loving Choujin Pantheon
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Plutonis posted:Bumping to say that the Omega Centaurian arc just ended and a new manga series is starting in August. Looking forward to see Kinnikuman and his buddies fight the loving Choujin Pantheon Thanks for the news, I hadn't been paying attention for a bit since the manga went on hiatus, so it's good to know that it came back. Now I only need to catch up.
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I stopped reading around the end of the Prince fights. I wanted to give ni sei a try but it seems to be translated from end to beginning. 
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Irritated Goat posted:I stopped reading around the end of the Prince fights. I wanted to give ni sei a try but it seems to be translated from end to beginning. just catch up the original series because the 'reboot' is ignoring nisei lol
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Bump. https://twitter.com/wsj_manga/status/1635966380116791297
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I hope it's a full new adaptation and not just a continuation of the old anime with the new material. But even if it is the latter the modern arcs are absolutely excellent and I'd love to watch them animated.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I hope it's a full new adaptation and not just a continuation of the old anime with the new material. Getting the davidpro treatment from the start would be awesome. Also there has been an official announcement but no studio or information yet. https://twitter.com/kin29man_anime/status/1636381815228502020
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Kinnkuman Oneshot special for his most famous move, slight spoilers but  is it goodhttps://mangadex.org/chapter/15c54117-dc1e-4866-93c3-52a2d50105fe
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