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Counterpoint: No one was good in AoA except the colorists on the Generation Next book.
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Rick posted:Sunfire was great in AoA. I feel like he showed up in one of the weird late 90s early 00 teams for half a year or so too. Also maybe there was a second sunfire at some point? There was a second Thunderbird but I don't think there was a second Sunfire.
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Apr 16, 2021 22:52
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You're probably thinking of Mariko Yashida, who was Sunfire in Exiles
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Apr 16, 2021 22:54
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This is a great lineup but did Hickman ever reveal the super secret awesome insider secret Hickman reason why Jean is still wearing her high school clothes or did that just...go nowhere?
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Apr 16, 2021 22:55
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He has a sister with the same powers but her codename was Sunpyre, I think? And then Exiles had a version of Wolverine's ex Mariko that was queer and also Sunfire.
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Apr 16, 2021 22:56
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Skwirl posted:I hadn't thought about that. Have Rogue and Synch been in a book together before? synch was in generation x from his introduction in phalanx covenant until his death. he stayed dead until krakoa, so he was never a formal x-man or on any other teams. i just think it is wild that they have someone who copies powers on the same team as someone who borrows them.
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Apr 16, 2021 23:25
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:synch was in generation x from his introduction in phalanx covenant until his death. he stayed dead until krakoa, so he was never a formal x-man or on any other teams. i just think it is wild that they have someone who copies powers on the same team as someone who borrows them. Yeah, I knew he was mostly Generation X, I was just wondering if maybe Rogue guested in the book ever.
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Apr 16, 2021 23:33
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BrianWilly posted:This is a great lineup but did Hickman ever reveal the super secret awesome insider secret Hickman reason why Jean is still wearing her high school clothes or did that just...go nowhere? did he ever imply there would be a super secret awesome insider secret Hickman reason for Jean to wear the Marvel Girl outfit other than "he thinks its a good costume" which is what he said when it was first shown
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Apr 17, 2021 00:16
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I always hated the old Marvel Girl costume, but it's honestly grown on me since HoX/Pox.
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Apr 17, 2021 00:18
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I do enjoy Sunfire’s gimmick of leaving, because he doesn’t want to be here
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Apr 17, 2021 00:22
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BrianWilly posted:This is a great lineup but did Hickman ever reveal the super secret awesome insider secret Hickman reason why Jean is still wearing her high school clothes or did that just...go nowhere? Listen to your heart.
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Apr 17, 2021 00:26
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If he likes it, cool, but it does read to me as a grown-rear end woman wearing a sundress she used to wear in 10th grade.
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Apr 17, 2021 01:27
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Gaz-L posted:If he likes it, cool, but it does read to me as a grown-rear end woman wearing a sundress she used to wear in 10th grade. Between resurrections and sliding time scale Jean Grey is in her late 20's at most. If she just aged normally she's about the same age as Spider-Man and Marvel refuses to let him turn 30 in the main continuity. She's died and come back to life multiple times.
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Apr 17, 2021 01:36
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Skwirl posted:Between resurrections and sliding time scale Jean Grey is in her late 20's at most. If she just aged normally she's about the same age as Spider-Man and Marvel refuses to let him turn 30 in the main continuity. She's died and come back to life multiple times. If a woman of 30 was dressing like she did when she was 16, it would seem a little out of place in most cases.
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Apr 17, 2021 01:57
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Gaz-L posted:If a woman of 30 was dressing like she did when she was 16, it would seem a little out of place in most cases. Mask aside, I knew a bunch of women that would wear a green dress when they were 27-32 years old.
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Apr 17, 2021 02:08
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I know plenty of people who would love to have the figure they had when they were younger. Jean is living the dream, no shut up Magneto the dream isn't dead I can still fit into those pants I know I can
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Apr 17, 2021 02:10
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Also when did the Green Dress Yellow mask costume first appear? It wasn't Uncanny #1 in 1963.
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Apr 17, 2021 02:16
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I think somewhere near the end of the first uncanny run, maybe early 70s?
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Apr 17, 2021 02:42
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Uncanny X-Men 39/40. 1968. So about 5 years into the run, where the X-Men have sort of graduated. I believe that everyone except Bobby are supposed to be in their 20's around this time. Also I guess discussing what age the X-Men are now is kinda pointless. Their bodies are aged to whatever they want with resurrection protocols. Codependent Poster fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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Apr 17, 2021 04:14
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Alaois posted:did he ever imply there would be a super secret awesome insider secret Hickman reason for Jean to wear the Marvel Girl outfit other than "he thinks its a good costume" which is what he said when it was first shown quote:Billy-Vell (@williamaximoff) asked: Marvel Girl going back to her old ’60s costume is probably the most controversial wardrobe change in a while, can you talk about why she’s wearing it again, and if there’s any chance she might get a new one(or even go back to another old one)?
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Apr 17, 2021 04:29
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The most famous time she put the costume back on is probably the moon battle with the Shi'ar over her being Phoenix.
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Right, and nothing of the sort has happened in Hickman's book, which is why I'm wondering if he's ever going to actually elaborate on this...what, deep-dive rationale for Jean wearing her old things that he's disappointed at everyone for not figuring out. Especially with this whole "I'm not going to spoil the story for you" bit. That implies that there's actually, y'know, a story behind this. But we never got it, so....thanks for playing coy about what turned out to be nothing at all, I guess? v  v
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Apr 17, 2021 07:04
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Well, she is living on the moom again.
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, I knew he was mostly Generation X, I was just wondering if maybe Rogue guested in the book ever. IIRC only X-Men who ever guested in Gen-X were Bishop (who got completely wrecked by Emplate, and we learn that he's probably Monet's son (but Fake Monet, so either Claudine or Nicole's son)); Iceman (who also got completely wrecked by Emplate); and, by popular demand, Maggott (who got completely wrecked by a hillbilly hunter with a tranquilizer gun). Gen-X was a weird book. I'm pretty sure they had more team-ups with Alpha Flight than visitors from the regular X-Teams. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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BrianWilly posted:Right, and nothing of the sort has happened in Hickman's book, which is why I'm wondering if he's ever going to actually elaborate on this...what, deep-dive rationale for Jean wearing her old things that he's disappointed at everyone for not figuring out. It's the costume she wore when she's killed in space at the end of the Phoenix story. She's killed in space in HoX #4. It's her "I'm gonna die" outfit.
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I guess maybe he's going for the idea that Jean considers it a symbol of claiming her own identity? Like in the Phoenix saga it was her wanting to fight as Marvel Girl, not Phoenix, Jean instead of the Force.
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I still think the resurrection system is unconsciously reshaping minds based on Xavier's perspective
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Harold Fjord posted:I still think the resurrection system is unconsciously reshaping minds based on Xavier's perspective The guy at CBH is going through House/Powers, and just hit the Orchis mission. He's really confused about lots of stuff in it, like Jean needing Monet to be able to talk to Xavier from the sun, the way Xavier talks to everyone (really babying them), the way everyone talks. It makes the issue really weird, and it's not like there's been any development on it so bad writing maybe? who knows. Maybe Hickman's new book....
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danbanana posted:It's the costume she wore when she's killed in space at the end of the Phoenix story. Gaz-L posted:I guess maybe he's going for the idea that Jean considers it a symbol of claiming her own identity? Like in the Phoenix saga it was her wanting to fight as Marvel Girl, not Phoenix, Jean instead of the Force. Like just say "I like the outfit" and move on. Don't be disappointed at your readers for not intuiting a thing you didn't even explain or end up following through on.
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I think they knew polaris would win, that is why they put her in the running, aside from any of us, who is going to vote for Boom Boom, Tempo, etc???
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nunsexmonkrock posted:I think they knew polaris would win, that is why they put her in the running, aside from any of us, who is going to vote for Boom Boom, Tempo, etc??? OG X-Force fans?
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I imagine the cover at least was laid out with the Polaris position just as 'poll winner'. But I think the only one that might've edged it would've been Sunspot if Cannonball wasn't also on the list.
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Gaz-L posted:I imagine the cover at least was laid out with the Polaris position just as 'poll winner'. But I think the only one that might've edged it would've been Sunspot if Cannonball wasn't also on the list. It honestly crippled both of their chances of winning by the other one also being a possible choice.
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rantmo posted:OG X-Force fans? Strong guy was one of the etc. Unless I am misunderstanding. Point I was making it was fixed for Polaris to win. Correct me if I am wrong, no hard feelings :-D Edit: phone autocorrect correct. nunsexmonkrock fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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nunsexmonkrock posted:Strong guy was one of the etc. Unless I am misunderstanding. Point I was makinking it was fixed for Polaris to win. Correct me if I am wrong, no hard feelings :-D Strong Guy was X-Factor
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nunsexmonkrock posted:Strong guy was one of the etc. Unless I am misunderstanding. Point I was making it was fixed for Polaris to win. Correct me if I am wrong, no hard feelings :-D I was referring specifically to Boom Boom and Tempo as characters fans of the first run of X-Force might be fond of. I love Boomer myself. Strong Guy too. Personally I voted for Banshee because he's been done dirty for so long and I just have always liked him.
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^^^i think I just totally misunderstood.  Ah got it, so many X things to try to keep track of. My mind is filled up with so much useless comic stuff that the boozed brain makes it blend together a lot more than it should. And I haven't even been drinking tonight, maybe I should lol. nunsexmonkrock fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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Skwirl posted:It honestly crippled both of their chances of winning by the other one also being a possible choice. For real. They knew what they were doing. Tempo had no chance, but I’m glad she was included because there was a vocal contingent that was pulling for her (myself included). Being put in the running means someone was thinking of her, and it can only help her future chances of showing up. At the very least, those mini comics are really charming.
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i was hoping they'd go for a more novel lineup now that almost every mutant who ever existed is available, is all. the only interesting choices were synch, who has recently gone from a talented rookie to being mentally older than the rest of the team combined, and best wolverine. otherwise it is a team you could have seen any time between the 90's and today.
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I edit: I misread, shows me for looking at a tree while my husband is driving and posting at the same time.
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