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Save your disdain for Jim Cornette and not other posters for gently caress's sake.
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I might be getting some of the details wrong, but from memory back when Cornette was running OVW (I think), he got upset when Santino came to a show on an off-day with his kid and openly laughed when The Boogeyman tried to menace them. Next time Santino was booked, Cornette confronted him and went off on him for not maintaining kayfabe since Boogeyman was being booked as a scary monster, while Santino said he wanted to make sure his kid felt safe by showing it was all a bit of fun. Cornette got furious and slapped Santino in the face, and I think if I remember right he got (rightly) fired for it. That said, 2-3 years ago Santino met Cornette at some convention and evidently was deliberately trying to goad him into losing his temper at him and I believe the allegation was that Santino was trying to generate some controversy for some show he was doing or something? I'm sketchier on the details on that particular incident so hopefully somebody else can fill them in.
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Oct 30, 2019 13:16
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Fullleather, I assume from the bulk of your initial post that kicked this off you were trying to go out of your way not to defend Cornette while also trying to figure out what his mindset was. In the process and your responses you created a pretty bad impression unfortunately, not helped by people being extremely aggressive immediately because I assume they thought you were blaming Sonny Kiss for Cornette having his lovely terrible opinions. Both sides are now basically arguing past each other at imaginary opponents, it is for the best that everybody just drops the topic and use this thread for its intended purpose of talking about Cornette and not each other.
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Oct 31, 2019 23:02
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ChrisBTY posted:To expand upon my previous question: 2 reasons. 1: People kept asking if we could have a Jim Cornette thread so they didn't have to read about Jim Cornette in other threads. 2: We don't have a limit on the number of threads we can have.
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Oct 31, 2019 23:42
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Haha I had forgotten he compared Kenny Omega to Laurence Olivier as if that was an insult 
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Nov 1, 2019 00:06
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Just out of curiosity because I've never thought to ask.... just what the hell classifies something as "an outlaw mud show"? It's professional wrestling so what was "outlaw"? I'm assuming it was somebody who put on a show without clearance from a sports commission back in the days when that was actually needed? Or was it just a term for anybody who wasn't running an NWA affiliate that somehow gained traction?
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Nov 4, 2019 01:55
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The_Rob posted:Being an outlaw mud show sounds so loving cool. Being an outlaw is cool as hell. Smokey and the Bandit V: Banditmania Davros1 posted:This, basically. It was someone who wasn't an affiliate of a promotion (NWA, AWA, etc) running a show in another promotion's agreed upon home territory. "Mud Show" derives from those shows unable to book an actual "arena" due to promoters having a stranglehold on those, so often they'd run out of barns or other places. As much as I enjoy Powerrr, it is kind of hilarious that the NWA ended up being the "outlaw mud show" and that Cornette is now working for one.
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Nov 4, 2019 02:01
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Yeah thanks Bix, that was a really good read.
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Nov 7, 2019 08:07
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I wish I could remember which old wrestler it was who told a story on an old podcast about showing up to some territory on the day of a show as a complete nobody, being big and imposing looking enough that everybody assumed he was just a wrestler. He managed to walk his way into a creative meeting where Bruiser Brody was ready to throw down in a fight with him until one of the bookers bullshitted a,"Oh we were supposed to meet 30 minutes from now!" and escorted him out of the room, told him not to make a fuss and he'd get him on the show that night, and it basically launched his entire career. From memory his entire mindset going there was,"Hey I'm probably as big as the guys on TV, I wonder if I could be a wrestler too?" and just.... showing up. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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Nov 7, 2019 08:38
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FullLeatherJacket posted:It might be a different guy, but that sounds a lot like the story Vader told of how he got into the business, which if I recall did involve showing up at an event and barging into the locker room to demand a job - at which point someone there was quick-witted enough to pretend that he had a pre-existing appointment with the 450lb man who just showed up before punches were exchanged. That sounds similar enough that I'm sure it was Vader, and I probably heard it on either the Austin podcast or the Jericho one.
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Nov 10, 2019 02:48
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MassRafTer posted:Cornette doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt after his cave people rant about Muslims. This was when I gave up on him. That episode was absolutely revolting.
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Nov 10, 2019 07:10
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coconono posted:urge to post Jim Cornette's mailing address increasing. I'm sure you're probably joking, but just as a reminder in general to everybody that this type of thing is absolutely not okay to do.
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Nov 15, 2019 23:35
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coconono posted:if I did, I wouldn't share because that's bitchmode and I'm better than bitchass Cornette. 
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Nov 15, 2019 23:57
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Nobody is closing the thread.
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Nov 16, 2019 02:45
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:He didn't watch the match and admitted as such Even if he wasn't a racist piece of poo poo, the fact he is refusing to actually watch the show he is reviewing renders any take he has as null and void, and makes me question why anybody would actually want to listen or why anybody would give his takes any sense of credence (because they just want to agree with the guy "telling it like it is" I assume).
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Nov 17, 2019 23:10
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I supposed if it was a full face mask that muffled his voice I could see it being an issue (even then, Liger regularly commentates on New Japan with his mask on) but Excalibur's voice is clear and distinct and very, very enjoyable to listen to.
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Nov 18, 2019 02:05
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What the loving Christ?  I was wondering why I couldn't find the latest episode of Powerrr, now I know. Fire this piece of poo poo, Jesus Christ.
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Nov 20, 2019 02:17
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:This makes me sad. That was a really good show and made for a great two-hour block with Dark. Yep. I tried watching the episode anyway after they put it back up and I just couldn't raise any enthusiasm for it, when I normally greatly enjoyed it each week. Having Cornette omnipresent due to his role probably plays a big part as well, there's not really any escaping from him on the show.
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Nov 20, 2019 05:45
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There's no need to fight among yourselves when Jim Cornette is right there to talk poo poo about, which is what this thread is for.bebaloorpabopalo posted:watching billy corgan on alex jones whining that the reason his father didn't love him was because sitcoms have emasculated the men of america was one of the more surreal experiences of my life after being a pumpkins fan for so long Or talking poo poo about Billy Corgan too I guess because Jesus Christ.
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Nov 20, 2019 06:27
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Decision to drop NWA Power vindicated. Yeah I'm done. There was a lot to really enjoy about the show but the people running it are clearly the problem and that's poisoned the well for me.
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Nov 22, 2019 23:12
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I did but Old Racist gently caress got autocorrected to Jim Cornette for some reason before I could hit the submit button 
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Nov 23, 2019 02:26
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TV Zombie posted:What can Jim do now for a living? Can he survive on podcast money? Well apart from the fact I assume he's already got a lot of money saved, doesn't he make good cash from sales of old merch he's picked up over his decades in wrestling?
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Nov 23, 2019 06:42
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Yeah I believe there was a promotion that literally just threw all their old house show tapes out on the curb in boxes, and Cornette found out and rounded them up and took them home, then eventually transferred them to DVD (?) and sold them. From memory they included a bunch of guys who would go on to be big stars just as they were first getting started.
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Nov 23, 2019 09:20
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Luigi Thirty posted:A world without old Beastie Boys records is a small price to pay for world peace. How can there be world peace if nobody knows that they have to fight, for their right, to party? 
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Nov 24, 2019 11:56
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WatermelonGun posted:someone pay me to review things i don’t watch This is what gets to me, it's one thing to watch something and hate it and talk about how much you hate it, but he's not even watching and he admits as much. But he's still considered some kind of authority by his fans on the subject, explaining why the thing he hasn't actually seen is bad.
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Dec 8, 2019 00:02
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Ad by Khad posted:Shamefully I gave ol' Jim a click this week and when he said he didn't actually watch any wrestling this week so he had nothing to review, I burst out laughing and closed it Somebody should tell Bryan Alvarez. Whenever he gets asked by people,"Why do you watch Raw if you hate it so much?" he replies,"Because it's my job!", but apparently you can just put out shows where you talk very angrily for a very long period of time over something you haven't actually watched.
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Dec 15, 2019 13:14
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davidbix posted:how has THIS poo poo not been getting him in deeper poo poo? For as many people who have argued about his "intent" with the fried chicken/Ethiopia line, he clearly has some malicious intent with this stuff. I think you hit the nail on the head at the start of your post: he's run off everybody but the true believers/hardcore listeners who eat up anything he says and are in full agreement with his backwards-rear end bullshit.
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Jan 20, 2020 11:01
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XeeD posted:gently caress it. I'm going to say it. Jim Cornette makes me laugh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1YOAmIVMhU&t=5s
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Jan 22, 2020 07:14
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Jim Cornette telling ANYBODY that they look like an out-of-touch lunatic is loving amazing, I'll tell you what.
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Feb 4, 2020 23:30
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Malcolm Excellent posted:How is Jim allowed on Twitter. He says some pretty crazy poo poo He's extremely racist against Muslims so Twitter are powerless to ban him.
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Feb 4, 2020 23:55
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Like, if anybody ever compared me to Laurence Olivier or Harpo Marx I'd be embarrassed that anybody could think so highly of me. It would never occur to me that somehow this is supposed to be considered a deadly insult.
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Feb 6, 2020 03:11
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MJeff posted:What is the Santino story? If I remember it right, Santino was working in OVW but had the day off, and took his kid to see one of the shows. The Boogeyman (who was being pushed as a top guy, not a comedy dude) spotted him in the crowd and was growling and menacing him, presumably thinking that Santino would play along. Santino was with his kid though and didn't want them to be scared, so he openly laughed to show it wasn't anything to worry about. Next time he came in, Cornette apparently just went completely loving off at him about not protecting the business and ruining the Boogeyman's mystique, then up and slapped him across the face. I believe he got fired for it? As an addendum to all that, apparently a couple of years ago Santino met Cornette at some fan convention and they just chatted normally, but then Santino supposedly tried to deliberately provoke him into blowing up again and was filming it in the hopes of using it to get attention for his school or something, and it was one of the few times when most people felt Cornette was the wronged party.
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Feb 7, 2020 02:26
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So there was no kid there? I was sure that had been part of the story at one point but maybe I'm conflating it with something else? Edit: Also, thanks for the correction/elaboration!
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Feb 8, 2020 08:52
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The irony of people trying to talk poo poo about Dave Meltzer is that he has made millions out of pro-wrestling without ever having to take a single bump, which is like the platonic ideal of being a success in the industry.
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Feb 9, 2020 03:20
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Yukaichiban posted:but to draw money you can't do the goofy poo poo" I know you're just quoting them so obviously this isn't aimed at you, but the show is profitable I shouldn't be surprised, but he's literally complaining angrily about how they aren't going to be able to achieve the thing they've already achieved. Yukaichiban posted:"Wrestling should never be publicly traded cause then you can't offend anybody then where ya at?" A pure example of somebody being right (the first half) for exactly the wrong reasons (the second half).
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Feb 9, 2020 21:14
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davidbix posted:Meltzer: Honestly, I feel sorry for those of you who can't see this. Big Dave kissing two fingers, dropping the mic, and walking off stage.
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Feb 11, 2020 06:45
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It's twitter so maybe him spouting racist bullshit is the one thing keeping them from banning him.
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Feb 12, 2020 23:19
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Plus you've got that whole New Testament thing where Jesus spends like 3 years with his head buried in his hands going,"Guys, I'm not being obtuse.... just be nice to each other.... come on.... COME ON!" The one exception of course being when he finds people using the Church to make money and goes apeshit and is down to throw hands.
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Feb 18, 2020 08:40
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MassRafTer posted:The Gospel of Mark, the authentic Paul letters, the disputed Paul letters, the obviously fake Paul letters, Matthew and Luke and John each come from a different place in time and each have a different vision of Jesus and his mission. Some state all are equal in Christ, some demand the release of slaves, some are OK with slaves, some say women are inferior, some women equal, but all of the books of the New Testament agree on one thing: Jim Cornette is poopy. Now THAT is some fine theology 
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Feb 18, 2020 23:32
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I gotta agree with Duke Pukem (what a name  ) insofar as I think Cornette is bizarrely using wrestling terminology because he's a sad old man long-past relevance who is incapable of viewing the world outside of a wrestling filter. Not that he hasn't been horrifically racist in the past (and probably will be again in the future), but I think he's just being (really, really) stupid here, "mudshow" in relation to a platinum hit that almost topped out the Billboard charts just makes zero loving sense in any context.Now the song itself rules and Duke Pukem's subjective opinion on that factor is objectively wrong, but that's irrelevant to the greater point
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Mar 22, 2020 13:22
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