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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah, but it's Apple.

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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

house of the dad posted:

Same reaction. I actually thought this season was too easy on Roy as he’s a guy with a massive anger problem who now has to live a civilian life where that isn’t cool.

TBH, other than some structural issues with the show, this is my only significant long term issue with the season. I was hoping that the show would loop this into the toxic masculinity critique that they're exploring with Nate, and they still might, because it's not hard to see it as a issue endemic to the club.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

LionArcher posted:

Calling Roy’s lack of caring about the kiss a micro aggression is dumb.

Yeah, but I think Nick Mohammed's making the point that we're meant to see Roy's reaction as indicative of a larger problem in terms of toxicity at the club.

The club treated Nate like poo poo for years. They got better, and he got worse. It sucks, but I can't really feel too bad about it because the long term effects are still there -- I mean, does anyone really think that Jaimie Tart didn't treat Nate just as poorly as Nate treated Will?

Nate should probably quit, get therapy, and move into a job and environment that better appreciates the qualities that led to him being singled out and abused in the first place, and hopefully he can become a less toxic person. But as it is now, AFC Richmond's just reaping the whirlwind.

Edit: Does anyone remember if seeing Dr. Sharon was ever an option for Nate?

Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Oct 9, 2021

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Cojawfee posted:

Though I don't think anyone really needs a show about Covid when we are still dealing with it now.

The first season dealt with hot button issues as well, I think it's just how the show rolls.

Plus, at this point it's just reality. I'd rather fiction hold a mirror to the world as it is, particularly if it wants to say anything about that world. Otherwise I might as well be watching a Marvel film.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I'm really not sure how effective Nate is meant to be. You could read him as a blow hard who's high on his own supply, or you could read the show as legitimately arguing he's impressive without having effectively conveyed that.

The goopy logic associated with the club's financial and competitive tribulations, plus some of the exit interviews with Nick Mohammed, leads me to think it's meant to be the latter.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I think Ted Lasso really needs its own thread at this point. I'm not a huge fan of the show, so I probably shouldn't do it, but if someone who is wants to take a stab they should go for it.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

MiddleOne posted:

On that note, was I the only one bothered by that entire plotline? I thought it would be some kind of spiel about how sometimes you're simply not in control but instead it turns out that the employee really was being a dick for no reason and the audience gets some validation that being a dick to service staff is the right thing to do and will get you respect from your peers.

It fits into Nate being a built up as an insecure dick, but the episode doesn't frame it as anything wrong.

There was another subplot this season that involved rude staff, wasn't there? I feel like that happened.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
It's weird to think of Trent as being principled, since he's played by James Lance. Man's made an entire career out of playing sleezeballs, psychopaths, and weird, needy men.

He's great, obviously.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Guy A. Person posted:

Rereading it maybe OP thought that Beard heard it from elsewhere, but it's obvious from context that Beard just worked that poo poo out on his own (then immediately started staring down Nate, which loving owned)

I dunno, a lot of this is on Beard tbh. He really didn't handle Nate very well earlier in the season.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Television can be fast and about nothing in particular, or it can be slow and dense. So much crap TV is just slow and about nothing -- and let's be honest, most "slow burn" television is exactly that.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

BigPaddy posted:

I just feel that Game of Thrones broke all the writers/show runners to think that what made GoT popular was the huge number of characters, places and different plots all going on at the same time. Ignoring the fact that GoT was popular as it was fantasy murder porn. Have one main plot with a group of characters that are developed and the audience is invested in and expand from that. A good example of that is the early seasons of The Walking Dead until that also devolved into GoTitus.

It's way older than Thrones; The Walking Dead was doing it before Thrones anyway (and in TWD's case it largely seems to have evolved out of a way to keep budgets crunched).

LOST was doing it before all of them; particularly by the time the show had reached its third season, when you start seeing the characters defined into subgroups and rarely leaving those groups. The fourth season codified it into literal faction "conflicts". But ultimately there was very little crossover between the various groups of thinly written characters.

But, I mean, it's also a process fundamental to soap opera, it's only that As The World Turns doesn't pretend that the characters are on different continents.

Basically, none of this is new.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Chairman Capone posted:

I love that Ted Lasso is such a positive show that it's inoffensive to the worst people in the world.

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1453752691868438533

It's very easy to some of those scenes in particular would resonate with lovely people: Ted repeatedly interrupts his boss, against her wishes, to have private meetings with her wherein he gives her personal gifts and asks her questions about her personal life. She says no but he hears it as a yes that's yet to happen.

TBH it's classic male entitlement.

Throw in some of the Sam/Rebecca stuff from season 2, and you get the sense that the writer's room doesn't really understand work power dynamics.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Escobarbarian posted:

Alex Levy still the worst TV character of the past few years but this episode ain’t bad

Really? I think she's loving hilarious and such an absolute trainwreck.

(Not seen the most recent episode)

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

mistermojo posted:

I think the Morning Show is supposed to be at least slightly ironic in that they spend so much time and effort on something people put on to eat breakfast to. there are scenes like Alex chopping wood in her cabin before being brought back for one last job or Bradley having a freak out and then having to do a puff piece.

It's by the same people who made Bates Motel (which, tbh, explains the slightly strange casting of Nestor Carbonell in a show that otherwise has super famous leads) so I assume that's intentional. You can see how the Alex Bradley character is from the same school of thought that created Vera Famiga's insane version of Norma Bates.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Solkanar512 posted:

And Alex is totally going to have an opiod addiction, right? She's rich, so she won't run out of doctors who would be willing to prescribe her with drugs, but that's what's going to happen, right?

Worse yet is that almost no one will notice because she hosts a morning show, not the evening news.

I think she's gonna get Covid, and somehow spin it to be anyone's fault but her own.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Escobarbarian posted:

If Alex kills Laura, the best character in this season, I will be So Mad At Her

I love that Laura exists entirely to show up the entirety of the the Morning Show presenters, particularly Alex. She's smart, confident, (mostly) professional, sets actual loving boundaries, and is an actual reporter for the actual news.

It should have been obvious that she and Bradley were a thang the moment she descended to basic cable morning news to deliver unto them her scorching hot chemistry.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I feel like that finale was The Morning Show finally tipping its hand at being bone dry satire; Alex's narcissistic speech about the universe ending if she died while Chip nodded along enthusiasticly was utterly insane, not to mention the "news for people with too much time" or Mia's inability to have a single non-work related moment with the person she believes she's closest with in her life. Very sad place to leave the character, but gels with her being in denial for the entire season coupled with an utter refusal to pull up.


Comrade Fakename posted:

It was pretty weird that none of the executives could see an upside to launching a streaming service immediately as a pandemic hits.

I think the implication is that they don't have much, or any, content. Hence the whole Tom Hanks subplot.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Comrade Fakename posted:

Also, what is going on with the UK kids? They are implied to go to a relatively not-posh school in London, which a bit weirdly has its own branded mini-buses. They go on what is presumably a school trip with only one teacher to an unstated location. Since they aren't leaving specially in the early morning or something, it's presumably not a long trip, an hour or two at most. Suddenly they go from the centre of London to a place so rural and remote that they're driving along a tiny road next to a giant hole in the countryside that has no barriers or warnings around it, and no way out if you fall in, of the type that there are a lot around within a hour or two's drive of London?! Inevitably they fall in the hole and do a rubbish version of Lord of the Flies, or perhaps more accurately The Simpsons' Das Bus.

I feel like this is classic Americans-writing-about-the-British nonsense; everywhere in the UK is either bucolic hillside* or London, and everyone is posh.

*or, you know, a quarry. They have to film Doctor Who somewhere.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Crini posted:

And for a show that promotes Sam Neil as having a main role, where is he? Have we seen him since the first or second episode?

I, uhhh, don't think he's coming back.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Then have i got bad news for you!

https://deadline.com/2021/12/invasion-renewed-season-2-apple-1234887049/

(Now you've got that out of your system, Apple, renew Swagger already.)

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

njsykora posted:

I haven't watched Invasion but it's the first TV+ show that I've seen get almost universal hate instead of just indifference.

I've only watched one and a half episodes, but I enjoyed it.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I've only seen the first episode, but I'm not a fan of the new soundtrack or opening titles sequence for See's second season. It's so so much worse than the first season's.

Swagger is pretty good as well, if people are looking for TV recommendations.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

cant cook creole bream posted:

What exactly is Dickinson? I like Hailee Steinfeld, so I wanted to give that show a chance. But it's really weird and I don't think it's for me. Honestly, real life Emily Dickinson has an intensely boring biography, so it feels weird that such a show exists in the first place. The woman barely left her room and never went outside her town.

It's awesome. It's an offbeat character drama with magical realist elements and odd jokes and excellent lighting. Give it until the end of the fourth episode, and if you don't appreciate it I guess it's not your thing.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Invasion is so aggressively channelling The Leftovers, down to the subplot about the woman who fantasises about abandoning her family. But even more broadly, you've got the existential crisis as filtered through a genre metaphor-- in the Leftovers, it's the sudden and dramatic imposition of loss, but in Invasion, the titular Invasion is used to represent... what? Each subplot seems to represent a different conglomeration of ideas, some about the effects if bigotry, one about American occupation (a literal 'invasion' in some not particularly purposeful parallel that's being drawn here).

The season has just stopped midseason to do a standalone Spielberg style home invasion set piece for a whole episode, and it's great, but, like, what is this about?

Oh the shows both this show and athe Leftovers have a Max Richter score.

Goldshifteh Farahani is very very good in this. Just a fantastic actress in everything I've ever seen her in. She's so naturally likeable that she sells so much of this dopey poo poo.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Afterparty. Loving it. Episode one Fascinating how you get thr vibe that the love of his life desperately wants to be somewhere else the entire episode, and all the randos who get in the way of their reunion cliche are actually trying to keep him away from her.

All these signs that it's "not the right moment" are because she's not that into you bro.

I'm hoping Ben Schwartz, who's looking guiltliest to me after thus one episode, ends up not being the killer and hooks up with the guy from Fleabag or whatever.

Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Jan 29, 2022

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I was thinking along the same lines until the reveal in this ep, but now I'm wondering if there's more to it.

I stand by the idea that it's Yasper, though my earlier belief that Zoe wasn't into Aniq is looking basically impossible at this point -- they really want us to think she's the one who drew on Aniq though.

I really like how this episode was shot, btw. I don't think the show did as much with its visuals on Chelsea's horror ep, so it was nice to have an entire episode that was very aggressive with its genre.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Chairman Capone posted:

I thought the latest episode of Servant was really good.

Yeah, this week's episode was very anxiety inducing (in a good way). The blocking during all those kitchen scenes was very, very good -- I know people praise the acting and writing on this show a lot, but I feel like it does a lot with its formal elements.

The slow invasion of the house this season has been absolutely fantastic (the cameras, the new locks, the bugs, the sudden influx of strangers after two seasons with just a cast of six or so people), as has been the season's pivot to start telling its story from Leanne's perspective.

Also Lauren Ambrose as Dorothy is so loving good. I have no idea how she keeps finding new shades of monstrous self-delusion to play, but she does (though it helps that we've never really seen the character during peacetime before). I do like moments when the show acknowledges that she's both the most and least capable of understanding what's happening to her, partly because it keeps her just the right side of unsympathetic, but partly because Ambrose just plays the shades to all of that so well.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I feel like Servant's done this really cool thing, where it's resolved all its major mysteries in fairly straightforward ways, while also playing out a fairly out of left field heel turn in a way that feels inevitable. Still waiting for a dissicated Barbara Sukowa to rise up from out of the crawlspace.

Actually, this bug infestation thing has to be going somewhere crazy: my vote is a colony of worms reanimate a corpse.

I really love the way this season's been playing with our loyalties -- Dorothy is so horrible, but you can so clearly see her digging her own grave in that conversation about institutionalisation.

Also the Dunkin Donuts cliffhanger was some Atlanta level poo poo.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Speaking of Servant, did the most recent episode feel really short to anyone else?

Also I love that the show does a dedicated Dorothy episode every season, and this one was good, but IMO nowhere near the level of the other two. The 2 am episode from Season 2 is a loving high bar to clear though.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Comrade Fakename posted:

I’m watching the first episode of WeCrashed, and while I’m enjoying it, it really shows the limits of prequels. No matter what happens in the show I know that the main character is going to lose most of his money, change his name and move to LA where he will use the last of his fortune to fund a movie he will write, direct and star in about how a good man is devastated when he finds out his fiancée Lisa has cheated on him with his good friend Mark. It really defuses the tension if I know where it all ends up.

The show's got some pretty slow pacing, do you reckon this season can catch up to that point in the timeline?

I dunno if they have the room.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Welp. Looking forward to Servant doing its take on Hector Salamanca's bell drama only starring Dorothy. Equal doses of Hitchcock and camp, gonna be amazing.

Only Kindness posted:

Massively enjoying WeCrashed though. Delightful WeTrash. Hathaway as producer is clearly loving putting the boot into distaff-Neumann every chance she gets. The voice. The Jay Ay Pee. The sunglasses. The gives-up-at-the-first-hurdle-and-throws-everyone-under-the-bus-ness.The mrs-neumann-out-of-the-shot-please-ness. The microexpressions of bubbling rage and annoyance she squashes every time someone mentions, you know, *grits teeth* her... it has me wriggling with glee.

Look, my love of Anne Hathaway is overriding my dislike of Jared Leto.

And look, Leto is very good at playing up his lizard persona in this, to the point where he's genuinely really funny. His speech about "living for disruption" in episode one is really, really funny. Leveraging Leto to mock the poo poo out of this psychopath and people like him is just a fundamentally smart way of harnessing his talents, like when Brian Taylor employed Nicolas Cage in Mom and Dad.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Big week for women dancing in freaky masks.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Beefeater1980 posted:

I’m watching Servant, towards the end of season 2 now, and is the intended response “all these people are absolutely vile and idgas what happens to any of them?” I mean I’m actively rooting for something horrible to happen to pretty much all of them. Possible exemption for extremely creepy kidnapped nanny.

Yeah. It's a class warfare story -- it's called Servant for a reason.

I think it's possible to feel some sympathy for the family, at times, but the third season makes it very clear how you're meant to think about the cast.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Escobarbarian posted:

Boy, Roar is pretty disappointing.

What disappointed you about it?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Still enjoying Physical a lot. Sheila is slowly turning into a psychopath lmfao, and Bunny rules.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
That was Anna Gunn!?

I'm enjoying this season of Physical too much for it not to be cancelled. This has been a very good season of television, I wish people weren't sitting on the show.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Physical renewed!

You love to see it.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I watched the third season premier. It's fine. Totally different vibe to the first season at this point but it's fun to see all these actor cameos from Stargate/Jonathan Tropper shows. Classic nest of vipers show.

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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Catching up on Sharon Horgan's new show, Bad Sisters. It's pretty loving funny, and well observed.

Way more wealth porn that I'm used to from Horgan's shows (though I may be overinfluenced by my love for Pulling) but that's Apple for you.

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