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kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Elephanthead posted:

So how does the NCAA make up a billion dollar budget shortfall?

Apparently they had a rainy day fund to absorb having to cancel the tournament.

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kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Did they increase scholarship limits, or just give out free years?

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
I wasn't sure how NCAAM 2020 could top NCAAF 2007, but thinking about it, just having the tournament straight up cancelled does mean this basketball season tops the ending to the zaniest football season in living memory (which was actually pretty tame during the bowl season).

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Poque posted:

legit mad that they didn't have selection sunday anyway

I agree with this. Really, I still think they should have finished up the conference tournaments then called off the season.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Bird in a Blender posted:

You can thank Rudy Gobert for that. Rumor is that everyone was planning to go to no fans, and still play until Rudy came down with it. I guess it was inevitable, but it might have extended games for a few more days.

Yeah, he almost single-handedly shut down sports.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Poque posted:

please god no

It's legit one of the best games of the past decade and I can't even appreciate it for that

Last year's tournament was so good. Like, the national championship game went into OT and it wasn't even the best game of that weekend.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

MourningView posted:

Jonathan Kuminga reclassified (probably to go to the G-league but he hasn't said yet) so the consensus number one high school prospect in the 2021 class is now a 180 pound white guy named Chet.

Honestly believe it's either g-league or Texas Tech for Kuminga. g-league is offering him more money and probably exposure than Duke/Auburn. So it's either a chance to play with his half-brother or go get some cash.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Michigan must have a very non-standard course setup. A lot of little details specific to their classes. I know that transferring credits is even an issue for normal students going between community colleges and the universities here in Texas, and those are supposed to be built in such a way as to transfer easily.

Also, Kuminga supposed to announce Monday the 22nd. Seems to be consensus that it's either G-League or TTU. G-League has the minor complication that Kuminga won't be old enough for their own age requirements and would have to get an exception for that. Rumor is that there's some transcript/eligibility stuff with the NCAA that would complicate him going college.

Interesting discussion around if the G-league select would be worth it for a top athlete. Someone like Kuminga may get a $500k or a bit more contract with the NBA, which is great for an instant cash influx. But is the G-League select going to offer enough exposure so these players are starting from behind when it comes to landing their next set of endorsement deals? They've mentioned they're playing 10-12 exhibition games against other g-league clubs, plus other international or exhibition clubs. The amount of air time these players get will be comparable to the amount of airtime overseas players receive. Compare that with a top 10 team in the NCAA, and it makes a big difference to a player's starting "brand". So if you can wait a year, you stand to make a lot more money on your first endorsement deal than if you take the money right away.

Of course, the rules for name/likeness are changing for 2021-2022 and then the possible end of the one-and-done rule as well, so the player landscape is going to be very different after this year.

However it works, just hope players get their money.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

MourningView posted:

https://twitter.com/CadeCunningham_/status/1275059334356054016?s=19

Staying! I forgot Okie State hired his brother so that makes more sense I guess. I would have tried to get a big g-league deal if I were him but it's cool that he's going to be somewhere that should be easier to watch.

In the stuff around Kuminga, there's a bunch of talk that the g-league contracts come with all sorts of waivers and stipulations in the fine print that pay is based on games played and that if they don't play the games, they don't get $$. So if COVID is still bad in the winter/spring (Hope it isn't, but it probably will be), they might get no $$. College seems more likely to play at least some sort of season this year than the NBA.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
I think it's another month or two before we start seeing basketball shift to the new year or cancel non-conference.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

MourningView posted:

https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1281741560879734784?s=19

I know Texas Tech fans were holding out hope but I feel like this was kind of an open secret

Yeah, at this stage it's just a matter of the NBA waiving their age requirement officially, and guaranteeing that contract if games aren't played.

e: Apparently some big money is being thrown around overseas if the NBA doesn't waive reqs. The biggest worry for Tech fans now is that he somehow pulls his brother away from Tech without him even playing in a game.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Metapod posted:

Texas tech abuse happening

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/sports/ncaaw/big12/2020/08/05/marlene-stollings-texas-tech-program-culture-abuse-players-say/5553370002/

This is the least bad thing in the article but also somehow not the most ridiculous.

Emma Merriweather, a 6-5 center, said she was admonished by coaches for displaying symptoms of depression, for which she was eventually diagnosed. She was also allegedly told by assistant coach Nikita Lowry Dawkins to snap a rubber band on her wrist when she had a negative thought.

WTF IS THAT SUPPOSED TO DO

1) clean house
2) yeah, that's an actual thing that people do, but should not be from a coach
3) the most hosed up thing was giving away the player's pup. the booster who took the pup blocked the player's number after 1 visit.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
This is good stuff in relation to the Tech WBB story: https://extrapoints.substack.com/p/how-a-clerical-error-uncovered-a

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
And Stollings was fired.

Took them long enough.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Kibner posted:

And since pretty much all the evidence was part of the exit interviews that the players gave and the school read, she was only fired because an article came out and got traction.

I know. It's pretty lovely and I think that Hocutt should be on his way out. He tried to brush it under the rug, got caught, and is only doing this because he got caught at it.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Paraphrasing:

Regarding the team meeting occurring after the article came out: "The program was being re-evaluated after the season ended for both performance and exit interview reasons, but the process had been delayed due to covid. Meeting was already planned, and had been planned for late July, but was rescheduled for August because a player was having a minor surgery that day."

If the meeting with the team had happened before the article had come out, would the result been the same? "I'm not sure, I would have hoped that the athletes were as forthcoming as they were after"

If he knew, why did he wait? "We were unaware of the magnitude that became apparent as all the allegations were put together"

If he should still have a job? "That's up to the president."

Asked again about how long it took? "We talked to Stollings and felt that things had not improved enough, thanks in part to the 2nd round of exit interviews. The team meeting was planned as the determination. The timing of the article was coincidental."

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Well, half the team should be recovered and immune for most the preseason, silver lining!

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Thoughts on Beard: meh

Apparently when he tried to bring Mark Adams, who is the X's and O's guy for the defense (the good part of Tech's team the last 4 years), they got into a shouting match and are now on bad, bad terms. Enjoy the motion, UT.

It sounds like the players are all campaigning for Adams to stay on as HC. It might not be the worst idea. The last time Tech was faced with a decision between a well loved coaching combo, they passed on Ruffin McNeil/Lincoln Riley

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

MourningView posted:

I meant these parts. At least read the post if you're gonna get this angry about someone lightly mocking it!


I was not actually mad at Kayakyakr. He and I have been posting together about college sports/barbecue for like basically my entire adult life, I'm just giving him poo poo for being a homer. It doesn't need to be a giant thing.

Yeah, I didn't take it as such. MorningView is enough of a homer to get it.

I actually had that whole post written like 2 days before and forgot to hit submit.

I'm meh about how he left. It sounds like, according to what some of the players have been saying in public forums (Mac McClung, for example, posts on Reddit and has been critical), he was somewhat checked-out from the latter half of the season on. Less active on the transfers board than usual, didn't do much to retain the two kids that quit on the team mid-season, stuff like that. He also had agreed to go to UT earlier in the week (and perhaps had been talking to folks before Shaka had been fired), but they waited until April 1 to announce to save on the buyout. He wouldn't talk to Hocutt that week and didn't even pretend to entertain a counter. It wasn't quite bailing on recruits at the 50 yard line to take the Cincinnati job, but it wasn't a clean departure.

Add on that apparently he tried to pressure some assistants to follow him to UT with the statement that staying would be "career suicide". He and Adams had a shouting match and that bridge is super burned.

I'm pretty happy with the Adams hire. It has been talked about for a long time that Adams was the mind behind the defense. He won at the lower level before moving up as an assistant in D1. Beard was the "culture" guy and designed the offense. Beard is a good recruiter, but he gives up on development in favor of the transfer portal. He loves him some 6'4"-6'6" positionless guards, but doesn't believe in forwards taller than 6'8" and doesn't believe in having more than one on the team at a time.

For Beard to be successful at UT, he'll need to 1) deal with the boosters, 2) retain top players when they don't get playing time, 3) fit top talent into his motion offense, and 4) find someone else to teach and run his defense (possibly retaining the def guy they hired last year).

For Adams to be successful at Tech, he'll need to 1) continue to promote the narrative that he was the man behind the defense, 2) prove that he is a plus recruiter that can develop NBA talent, 3) find an offensive-minded assistant to install a high-efficiency offense, 4) build a more balanced roster that can cover some of the weaknesses of the no-middle defense (eg: find or develop a rim protector and/or another few interior switch defenders), and 5) beat UT

Personally, I'd like to see us go away from the motion. It's only good when you have 3-5 players that have been in it for at least 3 years and can just run it without thought. It's not great for modern transfer-oriented basketball when your team is a bunch of newcomers.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Wiltsghost posted:

Beard got a Self assistant. Kind of interesting.

https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1379570006292332546

Beard's assistant budget at UT is insane. Folks were expecting him to take a huge raise to go to UT, but financially the new salary is pretty tame. The rest of that cash is going to assistant coaches.

There's also rumor flying around that them throwing a big assistant budget around is knee-jerk reaction to Adams and Sean Sutton not coming to UT with Beard. He's pulled failing HC's away from UTEP and UTA as well. The only person who followed him from Tech was Ulric Maligi.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Also hey, it's not just me:

https://distinctathlete.com/2021/04/06/texas-techs-hire-of-mark-adams-leaves-chris-beard-without-his-defensive-guru/

Speaking of Mark Adams, his first hire was Portland State HC Barret Peery, also a failing HC. He was successful at the junior college level, but his best season was his first season at Portland State. Dunno if that's on him or just the fact that he isn't a great recruiter. His teams play a 100% press, and take early shots. It'll be interesting to see how parts of his style impact Adam's style of play.

Tech's also still waiting to find out what Terrance Shannon (proj late 1st/early 2nd round) and Mac McClung (proj late 2nd round/undrafted) do regarding the draft, as well as Micah Peavy, who hasn't declared his return (rumored to be choosing between TTU and Michigan). Peavy's father is an HS coach who has won the last 2 state champs (and would have likely been favored to take the cancelled one last season too), and is probably destined for a college job this season or next. I would not be surprised to see him on TTU, Kansas, UT's or anyone else's staff next season. Won't necessarily be the same team that Peavy transfers to, either.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

MourningView posted:

Shannon should go. McClung isn't really a prospect but he'd make money in Europe.

Yeah, McClung could stay and potentially work his way into the draft boards. Mooney has a similar style skillset and is sticking in the G-League. McClung should be in a similar boat.

Also, the NBA needs a promotion/relegation process. Break up the team affiliations and/or develop a loaner system. Would open the talent pool up a lot, as G League and lower teams would have something to work toward. Have the bottom two NBA teams and the top two g-league teams go into a double elmination tournament. Winner of the first two goes NBA, lose two go G-League.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

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MourningView posted:

The G-League teams are almost all owned by NBA teams so it doesn't really work that way. It's not european soccer where they're their own independent thing, the entire point is to give young players a place to get minutes and develop and make it easier to scout end of the bench guys when you have an open roster spot. If the goal was to win the league and get up to the NBA then they'd just load up on older guys and it'd defeat the whole purpose.

Oh, I know. I just think it would be more fun for the fans.

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kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
Adams wants to pair the defense with a more open, quicker offense. Says it's easier to win big higher scoring games than win close, low-scoring games.

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