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jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

We've got a 3 day gravel race coming up, well, more like 3 day gravel time trial because mass start events seem like kind of a bad idea still. I decided to check out the courses yesterday.

It's some nice looking dirt







I don't ride that road enough. It's pretty sweet, goes along the river for like 25 miles to alberton, mt. Years ago it was the scene of a chemical spill when a train full of chlorine crashed. Also that picture of those airplanes in the river is out that way. Also no one in the store was wearing masks including the clerk.

Then it was up the other parts, nine mile road. This is a fun ride I also don't do enough, and it goes really far, over a pass, and into another valley where there's a highway and a hot springs. I've always wanted to ride over the top, go to the hot springs, and then come back. I'd probably want to drive partway out there though or it'd be like a 150mi day. The last time I went way up there I came across a moose in the middle of the road and that was where I turned around.





It's rare for me to not see turkeys on a ride



Wound up being like 95mi. The wind on the way back really, really sucked.

jamal fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Apr 13, 2021

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ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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I told my wife the prize of the bike and she wasnt even shocked, she just told me If that i sell my motorcycle Ii can literary get it at anytime i want. If i dont i have to wait until July-August timeline.

I been trying to sell said motorcycle for months already

BraveUlysses
Aug 7, 2002



Anza Borrego posted:

I have a Jamis Renegade Escapade and itís been very good to me.

i'm still a fan of mine, there's a couple things that bug me a bit but its been a hoot thus far

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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Been trying to find a size chart for the Jamis Renegade, I am 5' 9". The Shop has a 54cm Renegade S4 and a 56cm Renegade S3. I rode the S3 and i was comfortable but again it was a short bike.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

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Whatís your inseam? 54 would be the more typical size for your height.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

Whatís your inseam? 54 would be the more typical size for your height.

30ish

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

Whatís your inseam? 54 would be the more typical size for your height.

Agree with this. Iím the same height and it would have to be a very weird frame for me to buy a 56.

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015



I'm the same height and ride both a 54 and a 56.
The 56cm frame only has 9mm more reach than the 54, and at 387 it's still quite short.
On the flip side, though, it's 2.5cm taller, and 605mm of stack is a lot - so... that could be weird for someone 5'9".

At the end of the day, either one can probably work for you, but might need some fun angled stems.

Edit: the geometry tables are at the very bottom of this poorly organized page https://www.jamisbikes.com/bikes/adventure-gravel/allroad-adventure/renegade/

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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bicievino posted:

I'm the same height and ride both a 54 and a 56.
The 56cm frame only has 9mm more reach than the 54, and at 387 it's still quite short.
On the flip side, though, it's 2.5cm taller, and 605mm of stack is a lot - so... that could be weird for someone 5'9".

At the end of the day, either one can probably work for you, but might need some fun angled stems.

Edit: the geometry tables are at the very bottom of this poorly organized page https://www.jamisbikes.com/bikes/adventure-gravel/allroad-adventure/renegade/

Yeah, but they don't list a recommended height for their bikes. The stand over height for the 56cm Renegade S3 is 31.65CM vs the stand over height for the 64cm Renegade S4 is 30.67.

I rode the 56 with my Keen hiking shoes and it was fine, i do have some clipless pedals and shoes and it could be different with those.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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I am in no way a zealot about cycling!

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Standover means very little, if anything. Also you misread the table, that's inches - unless you're riding one of these

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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MrL_JaKiri posted:

Standover means very little, if anything. Also you misread the table, that's inches - unless you're riding one of these



i know i misread something lmao

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015



Yeah, stand over height isn't really relevant to bike fit outside of heavily loaded touring.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

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vikingstrike posted:

Everyone should have to experience sketchy gravel on rim braked road bikes with 25mm tires to properly appreciate modern gravel bikes. Off road road biking is/was really fun but it you're always on the edge of something going really wrong. I don't miss the flats though. One of my last gravel rides in Georgia, I remember we ended up on a gravel road with some chunky stuff and the guy I was riding with had 3 flats in the span of 5 miles, all from pinch flats.

Dang it. I came to this thread to see what tyres people were using in the pictures and to find out if I could shoehorn any of them on my steel and carbon touring bike (currently running 25mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus) because Iíve got to ride it 12 miles on gravel next week, the answer is no, and oh my poor back.

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

learnincurve posted:

Dang it. I came to this thread to see what tyres people were using in the pictures and to find out if I could shoehorn any of them on my steel and carbon touring bike (currently running 25mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus) because Iíve got to ride it 12 miles on gravel next week, the answer is no, and oh my poor back.

Could be fine. I would run tires with good puncture protection, make sure your tires are inflated enough to help prevent pinch flats, bring extra tubes, AND HAVE FUN! I rode lots and lots of gravel and dirt roads before gravel bikes were a thing and had more rides with no problems than I did with, fwiw

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

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On the plus side I am on gravel on this bike because itís a massive shortcut to the LBS which will be overhauling it.


I live on the chesterfield - rother valley trail and Clowne greenway (deliberately moved here for it). There was a huge station hub which was shut down in the late 1960s in Staveley but the railway network, which goes on for miles and miles in several directions remains, what hasnít been converted into rideable gravel trail and maintained by the council is owned by British Rail and abandoned without any fencing so you can ride on it anyway.

The bikes you see are just this awesome range of cheapest mountain bikes, to most expensive mountain e-bikes. They are ridden by families, your usual fit young men in Lycra, people in work gear, old men on top of the range ebikes, but the absolute kings are the old men on steel road bikes who all know each other and go touring round France each year.

Itís not long enough for anyone to come here for a cycling holiday but it is freaking awesome to live here and be able to ride anywhere you want to go without going on a road.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

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depends on what kind of gravel/dirt roads we're talking
even on 25's it's not bad if it's not super chunky, loose and rocky

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003



I ride mixed surface/crushed limestone paths on 28 Schwalbe Marathons pretty often and it's not a huge issue. I'm also a big rider so if you are under 250lbs I think you'd have probably a similar experience on 25s.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

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Levitate posted:

depends on what kind of gravel/dirt roads we're talking
even on 25's it's not bad if it's not super chunky, loose and rocky

Ooh good save - the canal trust idiots trashed the downhill from crossroads to the hub by taking heavy machinery where they were told not to go, and itís fairly aghhhh on 38s because of the grooves and chunks, but I can avoid that part on road.


Edit: thanks to charliebravo77 as well, if the consensus is that the tyres will be fine then Iím going to stop worrying about the bike and start wondering what the weather will do this week instead

learnincurve fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Apr 14, 2021

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

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Abandoned station being reclaimed by the land on the non-maintained part of the track vs the maintained part up at Arkwright town, there used to be a mine at the end of where it forks and they would bring the coal up on a single track and load the wagons there.





Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

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seems fine to ride on 25s but hey try it out and if it feels lovely then think about doing something else

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

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BraveUlysses posted:

i'm still a fan of mine, there's a couple things that bug me a bit but its been a hoot thus far



What donít you like? This is my first Grown Up Bicycle and I donít have a lot to compare against.

BraveUlysses
Aug 7, 2002



its not a huge flaw but i'm definitely not a fan of how they ran the front shift cable at the top, which requires a stupid rear end pulley near the bottom bracket to get the correct pull direction at the derailleur

Crumps Brother
Sep 5, 2007

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BraveUlysses posted:

its not a huge flaw but i'm definitely not a fan of how they ran the front shift cable at the top, which requires a stupid rear end pulley near the bottom bracket to get the correct pull direction at the derailleur
Took a bit to find, but I've posted a picture of that pulley previously. I totally get why they did the cable routing like that on a cx bike from 2008. I have no clue why they kept doing it for their gravel bikes in 201x. Gonna repost for Anza.

Crumps Brother posted:

That's not actually a top pull FD. It's just a wonky picture angle for a different cable run. My Jamis has the same cable run, but there's actually a little pulley or whatever that turns the cable around. Here's a better picture for you.

Dutymode
Dec 31, 2008


I wanted to give gravel riding a go last year, but my old hard-tail and touring bike were stolen. If I'm willing to go with flat bars, should I just grab a 90's steel rigid mountain bike for less than $100, vs trying to squeeze 32mm tires on my road bike? For example, this is on craigslist for $75

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bicievino
Feb 5, 2015



Depend on what your local gravel looks like, and your tolerance for loving with old drivetrains (availability of spare parts is poo poo rn). 32mm slicks are fine on most of mine.

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