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Hello. My old computer kicked the bucket at this unfortunate time, and I am looking to build a PC using the very helpful guide created by MikeC (included below). However, the MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard seems quite difficult to find right now. Would one of you be able to point to a suitable substitute? I don't know much about hardware, and worry about picking one that turns out to be incompatible. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($114.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon) Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case ($72.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
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Smiling Knight posted:Hello. My old computer kicked the bucket at this unfortunate time, and I am looking to build a PC using the very helpful guide created by MikeC (included below). However, the MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard seems quite difficult to find right now. Would one of you be able to point to a suitable substitute? I don't know much about hardware, and worry about picking one that turns out to be incompatible. How into upgrading computers are you? B450 boards will support future upgrades to Zen 3 but it looks to be a troublesome process. Home and gaming workloads I assume?
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MikeC posted:How into upgrading computers are you? B450 boards will support future upgrades to Zen 3 but it looks to be a troublesome process. Home and gaming workloads I assume? I don't foresee doing much upgrading -- this will be my first computer project that's not just installing an SSD or other real simple stuff. Home and gaming, yes. Edit: and the other holdup is the power supply. I've set up a notification on the Corsair page, but if there is a comparable product out there that would slot it I'd be happy to hear about it. Smiling Knight fucked around with this message at 22:06 on May 25, 2020 |
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Smiling Knight posted:I don't foresee doing much upgrading -- this will be my first computer project that's not just installing an SSD or other real simple stuff. Its been a while since I was in the thread, I am back for a bit since 10th gen Intel is here. I'll be updating that guide so don't pull the trigger yet. Just fyi, the exact items aren't really required. A PSU is a PSU whether its Corsair or Seasonic. The important thing is to get a name brand with good warranty support for peace of mind. Same thing for the items like SSD drives, RAM, Mobos, etc. Prices are kind of stupid with COVID but I'll try to part out something tonight. My biggest stumbling block is whether to turn the 2600 CPU in the build into a 3300X. Losing 2 cores hurts but moving to Zen2 gets a big frequency and IPC bump. I am just scared of recommending a 4 core part when 8 core consoles are like 7 months out for people who are the 'build it then forget it' type.
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My current PC is 4.5 years old, so it's time for an upgrade. With the stimulus check and all that, this is as good a time as any. Current PC:  I have a Fractal Design R5 case, and judging by some recent discussions, that's still good for a new build. I really like it anyway. This will be used for medium-duty gaming, with the potential to upgrade to the new video cards coming out later this year, and also maybe some VR when that happens. I'm a web designer so I don't need that much processing power for what I do, mostly some retouching photos in Photoshop and prototyping things. What I'm looking at: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($379.29 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ B&H) Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Best Buy) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($127.98 @ Newegg) Total: $906.22 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 18:01 EDT-0400 My budget is around $1000. If I don't need a case, video card - I'm sticking with what I have for the next few months, displays, or other peripherals, does this seem reasonable? I'm only uncertain on the motherboard, whether or not to upgrade to 32 GB RAM (it'd be nice, but is it worth the price?), and if the PSU is overkill.
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LifeLynx posted:My current PC is 4.5 years old, so it's time for an upgrade. With the stimulus check and all that, this is as good a time as any. AMD is a better value now for almost everyone. If you have to go Intel we're about to get 10th gen Intel which at least should be better than the 9xxxx series. If you want to go Samsung get the Evo Plus, but you can get very similar performance for less now. sean10mm fucked around with this message at 23:49 on May 25, 2020 |
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Any issues with this build? It will be used primarily for gaming. Also already have case fans for the case, so they're not on the parts list. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $172.39) CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $65.00) Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $129.99) Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (Purchased For $92.99) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $139.98) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card (Purchased For $130.00) Case: Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case (Purchased For $106.86) Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply (Purchased For $144.99) Total: $982.20 I might hold off on building until B550 mITX board prices are released, but I'm not too hopeful that initial prices on the boards with a lot of the desirable new features will be reasonable (rumor is the Asus ROG Strix B550-I is going to launch @ $230, so even if the ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming ITX/AX or MSI MPG B550I are $50 cheaper, that's still $50 more than the B450 board). The DRP4 is overkill for the 3600, but I found a used one for a decent price, so why not? I figure it will handle anything I may ever put in this case, and even when its overkill, it'll help keep the noise level down. A QLC M.2 NVMe drive would probably be fine for purely gaming and would probably save me at least $20-30, but I don't mind paying a little more for something that might be more future proof if I ever want to use it for other applications. I used my last SSD for 9 years across various builds and expect this will last for multiple builds as well. The WD SN750 was also on my radar, but it's been out of stock. The GTX 1060 6GB is just a placeholder until next gen cards are released this fall.
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sean10mm posted:AMD is a better value now for almost everyone. If you have to go Intel we're about to get 10th gen Intel which at least should be better than the 9xxxx series. I've never gone with AMD before, but I heard others say the same thing you're saying. Is this equivalent to the Intel i7 build? It's much cheaper as well! PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ B&H) Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($127.98 @ Newegg) Total: $751.92 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 18:29 EDT-0400
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Jamie Faith posted:I don't really have a budget set in stone. Money isn't really an issue for me atm. I mean, I'd rather not spend over 4k cuz that's a shitload of money and seems a little excessive but if that's what gets the job done then I will. Well, there's a few options I'd say: 1. Go with a "budget" HEDT system like this built around a 3950X plus the Tower 900 you like, with all pre-made CLC set-ups: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($709.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($272.08 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Best Buy) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($259.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($154.97 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB SEA HAWK X Video Card ($769.99 @ Amazon) Case: Thermaltake Tower 900 Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case ($289.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RMx White (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy) Total: $2961.98 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 19:12 EDT-0400 1b. Go more budget by making your own watercooled GPU with a Kraken G12, CLC, and a compatible GPU. c. Go off the QVL for memory and get a kit of 32x2 memory instead to leave the possibility of putting in 128 GB in the future (maybe with RGB too if you want). d. Swap the really fancy CLC for the CPU with a Kraken X73 or Celcius S36. 2. Cut the Tower 900 and do a more basic build with a cheaper GPU to get it closer to ~2k. b. Get a 2070 Super if you can find any if you want an upgrade from the 2060 Super. 3. Go crazy with the budget and do a Threadripper build. This is only meant to be a start, since I just put in the cheapest TRX40 motherboard and CPU, and you might still just want to research doing a custom loop instead of off-the-shelf parts. Also, sorry that I'm using the Snow Edition in these builds, but the only PSU in stock that I'd actually want to use in a HEDT-ish build was a white one from the Corsair Web Store. You probably want to wait for stocks to restabilize, because the AM4 motherboard I chose went out of stock by the time I finished writing the post  The only one I see that isn't stupid inflated from what it normally costs that IS in stock is this but it's also $380 when you can usually get something fine for 99% of people for $200 (or less with B450).
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PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($243.97 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.95 @ Amazon) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($118.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB RAW II Video Card ($389.99 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg) Total: $1067.86 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 19:30 EDT-0400 I was ill prepared for how sold out everything would be for memorial. I am beyond sales and deals and desperation has set in. Hard drives, and cases were already sourced and are on the way. I'm grabbing the Ryzen 3600x, EVGA 600W ATX 12V/EPS 80+ power supply, and an XFX AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Raw II 8gb GDDR6 PCI Express graphics card from Best Buy. All of the B450s are OUT. OUT! I've been looking at second and third tier mobo product jpgs for the past half hour and I think it is starting to break my brain. Help me! Price ceiling is $325 for the mobo. EDIT: This ASrock X399 was the feature that broke me:  I think I'mma get it if no feedback from thread. KirbyKhan fucked around with this message at 00:41 on May 26, 2020 |
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KirbyKhan posted:All of the B450s are OUT. OUT! I've been looking at second and third tier mobo product jpgs for the past half hour and I think it is starting to break my brain. Help me! Price ceiling is $325 for the mobo. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-m/p/N82E16813145081?Item=N82E16813145081&
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Thank you Edit: Removed from cart because out of stock MADNESS! KirbyKhan fucked around with this message at 00:44 on May 26, 2020 |
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I can't tell if I'm smarter than all of you or dumber than all of you for going 8c/16t for a gaming pc.
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Is there anything wrong with this motherboard? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XQgzK8/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-f-gaming I'm also having a hard time finding B450 motherboards, and the reviews on that Gigabyte one are awful. I've had bad experiences with Gigabyte in the past anyway.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I can't tell if I'm smarter than all of you or dumber than all of you for going 8c/16t for a gaming pc. We'll see in 12 months time  LifeLynx posted:Is there anything wrong with this motherboard? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XQgzK8/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-f-gaming I'm also having a hard time finding B450 motherboards, and the reviews on that Gigabyte one are awful. I've had bad experiences with Gigabyte in the past anyway. It is fine. I don't know what the bios situation is though for these b450s these days. You might need to flash it and since it doesn't support usb flashback you might need a chip to do it. edit: lol at b450. Everything is sold out or overpriced. I feel for anyone needing to build right now.
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LifeLynx posted:Is there anything wrong with this motherboard? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XQgzK8/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-f-gaming I'm also having a hard time finding B450 motherboards, and the reviews on that Gigabyte one are awful. I've had bad experiences with Gigabyte in the past anyway. Don't ever trust Newegg reviews lol, I've never seen bigger idiots and crybabies on any other site (besides maybe Imgur commenters). It has 4 1/2 stars on Amazon because it's actually not a bad board, just usually MSi and ASRock have cheaper and better boards for B450. I guess that's fine one is fine to get from the Amazon Warehouse listing though, since now that Aorus isn't available anymore.
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MikeC posted:Its been a while since I was in the thread, I am back for a bit since 10th gen Intel is here. I'll be updating that guide so don't pull the trigger yet. Just fyi, the exact items aren't really required. A PSU is a PSU whether its Corsair or Seasonic. The important thing is to get a name brand with good warranty support for peace of mind. Same thing for the items like SSD drives, RAM, Mobos, etc. Prices are kind of stupid with COVID but I'll try to part out something tonight. Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
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MikeC posted:edit: lol at b450. Everything is sold out or overpriced. I feel for anyone needing to build right now. When I was looking I found some tended to come back in stock for a day or less every week or so. If you follow the 3-4 boards that would work for a given build/price range, and check pcpartpicker every day, you'll probably find one within a week or so. Or just wait for B550 boards.
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MikeC posted:We'll see in 12 months time Yeah... I'm considering paying the $70 more to get one of the recommended ones on eBay. Is that a terrible idea if I want it soon?
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PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (Bestbuy shipping) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler (Newegg 43.99 pending) Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg pending) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg pending) Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg shipping) Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (newegg shipping) Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB RAW II Video Card ($389.99 Bestbuy Shipping) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg Shipping) Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (200bux at Newegg, got compatibility info off MoBo manual page 6) Total: $1217.85 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 20:26 EDT-0400 Yup, final buy. Also bought compressed air and an extra hard drive. Gonna pop that new hard drive in and give the old computer to the bodega down the street, they'll know a kid who'd like a computer for quarentine. Mobo notification about power supply pins got me shook, so I went with a corsair on the list paying out the rear end. KirbyKhan fucked around with this message at 01:34 on May 26, 2020 |
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Smiling Knight posted:Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! A couple of caveats, please read it all. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ B&H) Motherboard: Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($161.91 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 580 8 GB GT Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($86.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ Amazon) Total: $783.82 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 21:48 EDT-0400 Here's what I came up with for stuff that is actually in stock. Its a lot more expensive than when we pieced the post back in together in November. Prices are inflated, nothing is in stock, the stuff that is in stock I can't find reviews on etc. You didn't post what games you play or what resolution but given that you took the budget 1080p build, I assume that is your resolution and you are willing to make small sacrifices in graphics quality for smooth performance. Now the fine print. *CPU - The 3300X is a 4 core 8 thread part. It is a new product and it is solid and well-reviewed and benchmarked by all serious reviewers. But I don't know how well this part will age. The R5 2600 found in my build guide is now 160 dollars, has equivalent performance, and might age just as poorly if all of a sudden all games demand 8 cores in 2021 thanks to the new consoles. No one really knows how 4 and 6 core CPUs will behave. The other thing is that the 3300X *requires* a BIOS update before it will work on any existing motherboard. There simply are no b450 motherboards in stock that have BIOS flashback. The only way to get BIOS flashback seems to be to find an expensive x570 boards. So unless you or your buddy has a 1st or 2nd or maybe an early 3rd Gen Ryzen CPU to loan you to flash the BIOS, you have to go to a shop and pay for it to be done. If you buy the parts from a brick and mortar store they should flash it for free...maybe. If you don't want to flash it then the 2600 will work out of the box, no BIOS flashing required. *RAM - I selected this kit because it is on the QVL for the motherboard and it is the cheapest one I could find in stock. You can find a slightly cheaper 2x8 kit if you want but stuff not on the QVL can be kind of funny to get working. *GPU - I can't find a single review of this MSI RX 580 model but in general RX 580s are hot and loud so if noise bothers you while gaming, say you don't use ear buds or headphones for example, this might bug you. If you want a quieter card, you can pay a premium to get an 8GB 5500XT or you can choose the Nvidia for a 1650 Super for the same price. If you want better GPU performance we can find something for you but it will be a hit on the wallet. *Case - This case isn't as good as the P400 listed but it seems like anything that gets well reviewed by Gamers Nexus instantly has its price skyrocket 200% or something. The Corsair case is decent for the same price range.
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MikeC posted:I am just scared of recommending a 4 core part when 8 core consoles are like 7 months out for people who are the 'build it then forget it' type. TOOT BOOT posted:I can't tell if I'm smarter than all of you or dumber than all of you for going 8c/16t for a gaming pc. MikeC posted:We'll see in 12 months time Heh 12 months, it's definitely going to take longer than that. The number of threads games use has lagged well behind the number of cores/threads available in hardware. Current consoles had 8 thread cpus for 5 years before we started seeing games that were performance limited with 4. And with the previous gen they had a real incentive to offload as much as possible from the main thread since the jaguar was pretty crap in single thread. Multithreaded programming is difficult. I really don't expect 6c/12t vs 8c/16t to be a major difference in games before the 3600 is feeling slow for other reasons, like single-thread performance, DDR4 memory bandwidth, the inter-core IF limits. The 4c/8t might be a another story, but it's not gonna turn into a pumpkin in a year or two. For a budget builder who is still concerned about the long term and doesn't want to replace a CPU after building, a 6 core might be better. But the 2600 seems dumb to me -- price difference between the 2600 and a 3600 is $15 at this point. If the 1600AF comes back in stock then it's a debate.
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Nabbed a Tomahawk MAX this morning from Best Buy! They're still in stock as I type this.
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Same! Let’s hope they don’t get canceled!
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MikeC posted:A couple of caveats, please read it all. That's a really thorough summation of the pros and cons, it makes the decision process a lot easier. And yes, your assumptions were correct, I'm willing to take a bit of a graphics hit for performance. I'm not going to be getting the latest gorgeous open world game anyway. Overall, that list looks like it will work great!
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I picked a hell of a time to reuse my old computer (ivybridge quad-core) that's missing a psu as a headless windows 10 nas. Doubt there's any ETA when stuff will be in stock so any suggestions on what's currently out there. I'd prefer a modular if possible but kinda am blanching at paying more than $100-$120.
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I just realized that the price difference between the Fractal R5 and the newer R6 is basically the cost of adding a fan to the R5 so it has 3 like the R6. With that in mind is there any reason to not go with the R6? Both are similarly big, the R6 is a bit heavier but that doesn't matter to me either way.
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It looks like now is a bad time to build a system due to shortages, and I'm in no rush - my laptop (2015 13" MBP) is just feeling a bit slow. Should I wait until September/October for the Ryzen 4000 and Ampere releases? I'll mainly use the system for Ableton and some gaming.
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sean10mm posted:I just realized that the price difference between the Fractal R5 and the newer R6 is basically the cost of adding a fan to the R5 so it has 3 like the R6. No, the R6 is an improvement in several non-trivial ways: • more space behind the front panel & less restriction for the front fans to draw air • elevated position of the front fans by only 1 5.25" bay to deliver air to the CPU/GPU zone rather than the bottom of the case • the layout with unrestricted airflow if you have 2 or less 3.5" HDDs The only reason to get a R5 is if you really need 2 5.25" bays for some reason. Or if you have 8 HDDs. The price difference between R5 and R6 used to be a lot higher but with the 7 now in the top $ spot they're pretty close. Also I think the weight of the non-window R6 is probably a bit closer to the R5 -- the specs have the same weight for R6 with and without tempered glass and the glass should be heavier. So they may just be reusing the same number.
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Klyith posted:No, the R6 is an improvement in several non-trivial ways: One thing I'm a little hazy on is how the USB connections work. It looks like on an R6 USB-C, you have 1 USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (type c) and 4 ports that can be USB 3.0 or USB 2.0. On say an Asus Tuf x570_Plus you have 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 connector that can handle 2 ports, and then 2 USB 2.0 connectors that support 4 ports. So basically, the best you can do on that front panel with the connectors on that mobo are getting the 1 type C @ 3.2 Gen 1 speed, and the other 4 at 2.0 speed, right? What the gently caress is with how the new USB poo poo is named anyway? 
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Just calling it 2.0, 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 according to speed modes would have been too easy so they're all 3.x Gen something now for maximum confusion
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How's the stock cooler on the 3900x? Mine should get here tomorrow, however I won't have my PSU for a week, and it occurred to me that it might not be as adequate as the stock cooler on my 3600. I won't be overclocking it at all if that makes a difference (mainly bought it so I could run a few lightweight server VMs and game at the same time on the same box - needed those cores). Stealth edit: If it's not really up to the task what's the cheapest option that would be a notable improvement? I really don't wanna spend $100 on a heatsink if I can avoid it. I reached a bit in terms of budget for the 3900.
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Klyith posted:Fans on side panels are such a PITA though. That side fan is making a difference, thought I'd follow up to say that it's not as much of a pain with one of these extra Noctua PWM extension cables I had lying around installed. Lets you detach at the extension point instead of the board and there's a lot of play when detaching the side panel.
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sean10mm posted:One thing I'm a little hazy on is how the USB connections work. e: Google has just confused me more, now I suspect that the 3.2 Gen 1 connector (which is apparently the same as 3.1 gen 1) on the mobo will just give me usb 3.0 on 2 of the type A front ports, and I'd need something completely different for the 3.1 gen 2 type C on the front panel? 
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I think it's a fools errand to chase USB specs right now.. the chore of finding a motherboard and case combo that can get you a single USB-C port would be enough to make you want to give up. There's also the new complication of USB4 being announced last year so that's gonna start showing up on motherboards late this year. Upside, it'll maybe make thunderbolt easier (possible?).
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May 26, 2020 23:11
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All of my parts* have arrived, AAAAA SO EXCITED!!!  So before I plunge in, do y'all have any advice (or a guide) on how to test your components, like, on a table, before you install the mobo and everything else into the case? Is it as simple as "do everything but installing in the chassis, you dumbass", or are there other considerations to pay attention to? I can't seem to find anything useful poking around on Google. Build's here, if it's relevant: PCPartPicker Part List * okay fine I still need to decide whether I need more case fans (came with 3 x be quiet! Pure Wings 2 installed, there's room for 2 more 140mm) and whether I want to get an aftermarket heat sink/cpu cooler, but I figured I'd wait to see how hot it runs before committing to those...
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May 26, 2020 23:37
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I'd love feedback on this build my brother-in-law just sent me. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($328.98 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Best Buy) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($147.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power A55 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Taichi X OC+ Video Card ($423.98 @ Newegg) Case: Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($116.98 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing) Total: $1506.67 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-26 18:36 EDT-0400 I know he'll mostly want to use it for gaming, although he's old like me so he doesn't need bleeding edge performance. Is that a reasonable video card? Is it worth upgrading the SSD to NVMe? Anything else stand out? Please help, I want to preserve his delusions that I'm tech-savvy.
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