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BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!


Speaking of pcie4, I got a 2070s on an asrock x570 taichi, a 5900x. So, pcie4.

gpuz says the gpu is running on pcie3


I just assumed that was what it should be, because the gpu doesn't actually use pcie4, but is that true? Is this all how it should be? I remember some article or something a bit ago that talked about minor performance improvements in some situations running a gpu on pcie4 even if it doesn't need it, but maybe that was just the 30 series.

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

I hated your old avatar so much I paid for this one from a gay furry visual novel. gay rights and smoke weed every day

BrainDance posted:

Speaking of pcie4, I got a 2070s on an asrock x570 taichi, a 5900x. So, pcie4.

gpuz says the gpu is running on pcie3


I just assumed that was what it should be, because the gpu doesn't actually use pcie4, but is that true? Is this all how it should be? I remember some article or something a bit ago that talked about minor performance improvements in some situations running a gpu on pcie4 even if it doesn't need it, but maybe that was just the 30 series.

think the only GPUs that use pci4 are the 30 series

literally this big
Jan 10, 2007



Here comes
the Squirtle Squad!


Hello again thread. Do GPUs exist again yet? I just want a Founders Edition 3060/3080.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

No.

literally this big
Jan 10, 2007



Here comes
the Squirtle Squad!



Thanks, I'll check back again in 8 months.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust



Maybe whenever crypto crashes

Pilfered Pallbearers
Aug 2, 2007




BrainDance posted:

Speaking of pcie4, I got a 2070s on an asrock x570 taichi, a 5900x. So, pcie4.

gpuz says the gpu is running on pcie3


I just assumed that was what it should be, because the gpu doesn't actually use pcie4, but is that true? Is this all how it should be? I remember some article or something a bit ago that talked about minor performance improvements in some situations running a gpu on pcie4 even if it doesn't need it, but maybe that was just the 30 series.

2070s can only run on PCIe 3.0, hence the 3.0. Expected.

Hiraeth
May 14, 2021


hey, y'all. Wanna tell you all a cautionary tale that is entirely my fault in this case. Feel like I can remain somewhat anonymous here, so I figured I'd get this off my chest. Without further ado: ✨*~What Happens When You Don't Do Sanity Checks or Listen to The Advice In The Thread Before You Build~*

So I got myself the "SA Penny-Pincher" virgin-box that was recommended in a previous iteration of this thread. Got myself an Inspiron 3847 with an i3 4150 CPU, 8GB of RAM, and a 1TB HDD. Threw in an aftermarket GTX 750 1GB along with an SSD and called it a day. Back then I didn't care about the high-end of , and to this day I honestly still don't (poo poo, I'm still running a 1440x900 monitor). Well, that was in 2015. It's 2021 now, and I needed an upgrade considering that I want to play a few of the new games coming out. A friend of mine was really itching to build me a PC, but they were urging me to buy almost strictly used hardware from past generations. I was hesitant at first because I figured it didn't make sense but I felt hella pressured by my friend and others since it "was the opportunity of a lifetime" due to the fact that they would do the assembly themselves without having it cost me anything. It seemed like nobody would shut up if I didn't go for it. I honestly was getting tired of my current Inspiron setup for a hot minute and it seemed like a sweet deal at first so I decided to take my friend up on their offer

So as a result, I now have a "new" PC with a used Ryzen 5 2600, and even though it's an older Ryzen 5 model, at the same time I don't really do anything CPU-intensive whatsoever to justify having a Ryzen 5. Got that along with a GTX 960 since I was aiming for a 1050ti but scalpers. Feels like it's not really a step up from what I have now considering the GTX 750 was released over seven years ago and the 960 six, though my friend stated that the 960 is "comparable to a 1050" but I'm not sure. I guess on the other hand, I realistically wasn't planning to do much with a new setup anyway. I would've been happy playing games made within the last three years at 900p resolution at 40-ish FPS on medium settings. And aside from that, just general dicking around (web-surfing, watching YouTube, Discord) plus playing with emulation from time to time. So maybe a setup like this wouldn't be bad for what I use a computer for? I dunno

tl;dr I spent $700 on a PC using older parts from eBay that I wouldn't have chosen due to pressure from a friend of mine without using this thread as a guide and I'm now kind of regretting it. Means I'm due for an upgrade sooner than most probably two years if I were to guess but hey. You learn from your mistakes

Hiraeth fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 14, 2021

Alucard
Mar 11, 2002


Pillbug

That sucks man, although waiting 2-3 years might be the stopgap you need until you can get a modern GPU without needing to service a Micro Center employee in the stockroom.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.



A 2600 isn't going to hold you back at 60fps so as long as it was a reasonable price I wouldn't feel too put out about it. A 960 ain't great, but with literally everything being scalped you were screwed on that front from the outset.

Pilfered Pallbearers
Aug 2, 2007




What was your top budget? $700 seems like a lot for those specific used parts.

Im sorry you have dumb friends.

A 2600 is generally ok for what you want at least. Also I dont even know if all current games will run all the way down to 900p.

Hiraeth
May 14, 2021


Pilfered Pallbearers posted:

What was your top budget? $700 seems like a lot for those specific used parts.

Im sorry you have dumb friends.

A 2600 is generally ok for what you want at least. Also I dont even know if all current games will run all the way down to 900p.

The fact that I didn't admit that I'm in Canada where everything is more 'spenzive is my bad. Didn't feel like the RAM and MOBO (both also purchased used), PSU, and case was significant enough to have a first-world-problemsey fit about. Not including taxes/shipping in this $700 budget, either. And yeah, maybe I won't be able to run unoptimized stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, but stuff like that I wasn't even really considering to begin with

Hiraeth fucked around with this message at 17:20 on May 14, 2021

Pilfered Pallbearers
Aug 2, 2007




Hiraeth posted:

The fact that I didn't admit that I'm in Canada where everything is more 'spenzive is my bad. Didn't feel like mentioning the RAM and MOBO (both also purchased used) PSU, and case were significant enough to have a first-world-problemsey fit about Not including taxes in that estimate, either. And yeah, maybe I won't be able to run unoptimized stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, but stuff like that I wasn't even really considering to begin with

Wait, are you saying you spend $700 (even in funny money) on a 2600 and a 960?

Hiraeth
May 14, 2021


Pilfered Pallbearers posted:

Wait, are you saying you spend $700 (even in funny money) on a 2600 and a 960?

n'aw, that was just an example of an idiot misspeaking. Just meant that I never mentioned the rest of the components that weren't the GPU and CPU in my original post to begin with since I felt more confident with those purchases even though bringing that up in the first place seemed pretty arbitrary now that I look at it

Inverted Sphere
Aug 19, 2013


Alrighty so I'm not gonna even bother looking at video cards because none exist in the universe and I'm not -quite- desperate enough to sell the soul of my future firstborn to get one just yet (and I'm sitting on a GTX 1060 at the moment anyways which is plenty functional for the time being) but my CPU is getting decidedly quite ancient (4670k) so I think this is a decent time for an upgrade. My quick question is what motherboard would be best for a 5600x, which I think is the processor I've settled upon? I don't know very much about motherboards at present, or about RAM speeds for that matter. (DDR4-3600 seems to be a number that pops up a lot and doesn't seem terribly expensive to get 16 gigs of, should I just go with that?) It's a full tower case (Although I cannot remember for the life of me what it's called offhand), so pretty much any size board would probably fit.

For that matter how important would a non-stock cooler be? Also sorry if this is in the wrong thread, I wasn't sure if this should go here or the AMD thread but this seems to be the thread for discussing actual upgrades and purchases.

Vayra
Aug 3, 2007
I wanted a big red title but I'm getting a small white one instead.

Hiraeth posted:

So as a result, I now have a "new" PC with a used Ryzen 5 2600, and even though it's an older Ryzen 5 model, at the same time I don't really do anything CPU-intensive whatsoever to justify having a Ryzen 5. Got that along with a GTX 960 since I was aiming for a 1050ti but scalpers. Feels like it's not really a step up from what I have now considering the GTX 750 was released over seven years ago and the 960 six, though my friend stated that the 960 is "comparable to a 1050" but I'm not sure. I guess on the other hand, I realistically wasn't planning to do much with a new setup anyway. I would've been happy playing games made within the last three years at 900p resolution at 40-ish FPS on medium settings. And aside from that, just general dicking around (web-surfing, watching YouTube, Discord) plus playing with emulation from time to time. So maybe a setup like this wouldn't be bad for what I use a computer for? I dunno

tl;dr I spent $700 on a PC using older parts from eBay that I wouldn't have chosen due to pressure from a friend of mine without using this thread as a guide and I'm now kind of regretting it. Means I'm due for an upgrade sooner than most probably two years if I were to guess but hey. You learn from your mistakes


If that's $700 CAD and includes the rest of the PC, that honestly sounds more or less okay. Like sure, it's a bit much to have paid for it and a 960 isn't the same as a 1050 Ti, but it is comparable (one generation vs. one price tier) and you would have gotten screwed on GPU prices buying anything right now. Oughta be fine for a year or two, and then you can just swap out the GPU instead of buying a whole new (overpriced, used, last-generation) PC.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?





Inverted Sphere posted:

Alrighty so I'm not gonna even bother looking at video cards because none exist in the universe and I'm not -quite- desperate enough to sell the soul of my future firstborn to get one just yet (and I'm sitting on a GTX 1060 at the moment anyways which is plenty functional for the time being) but my CPU is getting decidedly quite ancient (4670k) so I think this is a decent time for an upgrade. My quick question is what motherboard would be best for a 5600x, which I think is the processor I've settled upon? I don't know very much about motherboards at present, or about RAM speeds for that matter. (DDR4-3600 seems to be a number that pops up a lot and doesn't seem terribly expensive to get 16 gigs of, should I just go with that?) It's a full tower case (Although I cannot remember for the life of me what it's called offhand), so pretty much any size board would probably fit.

For that matter how important would a non-stock cooler be? Also sorry if this is in the wrong thread, I wasn't sure if this should go here or the AMD thread but this seems to be the thread for discussing actual upgrades and purchases.
So a B550 mobo is the sweet spot right now. I have an MSI B550M Bazooka board for my 5600x. 16 GB of RAM is pretty much the standard unless you really need the extra RAM for a specific task (not just gaming).

Kithyen
Oct 18, 2002
I DON'T KNOW THE BBCODE FOR BIG RED TITLES SO I CAN'T FIX THIS FUCK

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($375.27 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Western Digital)
Case: Silverstone GD05B-USB3.0 HTPC Case ($149.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA GS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Custom: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($449.99)
Total: $1065.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-14 20:56 EDT-0400

My current setup. Since upgrading the video card is pointless at this point (and the 1070 serves my needs for now), I've decided to finally update the Processor/motherboard/ram since those are the original parts from when I first built this thing back in 2014.

Thinking of a RYZEN 5600x as that seems to be a sweet spot in price per performance. I know nothing about Motherboards or coolers for the ryzen processors so any help there will be appreciated. I will also be upgrading the case to the Silverstone GD09B as this case has a bit more room than my current case, looks good in an entertainment center, and my current case has a non-working front usb port due to a broken pin on the connector. I'm also thinking about getting an m2 drive to replace the samsung evo.

I generally just do high end game emulation although do occasionally play modern games through steam.

You all have been phenomenal in helping me out in the past and this thread has been a lifesaver in my upgrades.

Also budget is flexible as I'll be buying these parts over the next few weeks.

Kithyen fucked around with this message at 01:07 on May 15, 2021

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

I hated your old avatar so much I paid for this one from a gay furry visual novel. gay rights and smoke weed every day

Why would you pay 375 for a 10 year old mid level processor?

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