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Hey goons, List CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ B&H) Motherboard: MSI H110M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($103.49 @ Amazon) Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8 GB Video Card Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($61.36 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg) I bought this PC 4 years ago and my recent gaming adventures with RDR2 got me thinking that it might be time to think about it's upgrade due to the stuttering experienced in the newest games. Thought about going from i5-6600 to i7-7700 might help a bit due to the hyperthreading but online research didn't yield consistent answer. I know that the 8gb RAM should be changed as well to 16gb, but by checking task manager at the moment my CPU is the one that's maxed all the time when gaming and RAM still has some space available. And in the end I can do both upgrades. What are your thoughts, is the upgrade to i7-7700 (around EUR 300) or even i7-7700k (around EUR 400) help me enough to enjoy gaming without stuttering (I don't mind average FPS). Or should I save a bit and change the whole system (well the hard drives might be salvageable)?
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I'm looking at two different RAM kits and I' m wondering if there's any difference between them other than the RGB: 1. G.Skill Trident Z Neo DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3600, CL16-19-19-39 (in my MB's QVL) 2. G.Skill RipJaws V DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3600, CL16-19-19-39 (not in my MB's QVL) EDIT: I ask cause one is 134 and the other 179 Euro. Incessant Excess fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Incessant Excess posted:I'm looking at two different RAM kits and I' m wondering if there's any difference between them other than the RGB: Far as I can tell via one of MSI's x570 QVL lists is that the Trident is Samsung B-Die ram while the Ripjaws is just normal Samsung ram. May not be 100% right about that but if I am the B-Die ram was sought after for better ram OCing a cpu gen or two ago and is still priced high because of that.
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MikeC posted:Start here Alright, I'm mulling over this now, thanks. Sorry for the likely obvious/dumb question but what should I do regarding the timing of my order? I'm expecting a bunch of cyber deals soon. Is there any in particular that's scheduled/known on newegg or other sites?
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Sanity Check before I huker down for black friday deals: 1440p Gaming, 60+ FPS though I don't mind pushing for more as my moniter is 120 with 144hz overclock In the UK so prices are fucky and i've made some adjustements based on that: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£289.99 @ Amazon UK) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler (£68.39 @ Amazon UK) Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard (£284.99 @ Amazon UK) Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (£119.99 @ Amazon UK) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£189.99 @ CCL Computers) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card (£469.97 @ Amazon UK) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (£86.55 @ Amazon UK) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£98.40 @ Alza) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan (£25.59 @ Amazon UK) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan (£25.59 @ Amazon UK) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan (£25.59 @ Amazon UK) Total: £1722.94 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-22 15:12 GMT+0000 Some Notes from me: I know the stock cooler is probably enough but I don't mind paying a bit extra for some lower noise levels, hence the noctua The memory is mostly for somethin that is: on the QVL list, and also will require no tuning for 3600 speed (turn on XMP/throw the suggested ramp profile at it and stop), I may drop down toa 3200mhz sport kit for 60 quid cheaper if I decide I wanna tune upwards The Motherboard Is probably the biggest overkill there and I can drop it down to the Aorus elite but as I understand it Zen3 Will be compatible with this so if I decide to upgrade i'd like to be on the higher end, Plus I like the high quality with no RGB look. Every part on here may swap around for similar parts as black friday goes on, I just wanted a decent baseline With some good deals I might upgrade the graphics card to the super/TI, as they are the next upgrades I could make, or i'll just stick with the 2070 and go for a 3XXX at some point. Random edit: For Comparison im running a 4950k + 1070 build right now Stormgale fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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MagusDraco posted:Far as I can tell via one of MSI's x570 QVL lists is that the Trident is Samsung B-Die ram while the Ripjaws is just normal Samsung ram. May not be 100% right about that but if I am the B-Die ram was sought after for better ram OCing a cpu gen or two ago and is still priced high because of that. Those would be pretty lose timings for B-Die. Edit: It's also way too cheap. It's not B-Die.
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KillHour posted:Those would be pretty lose timings for B-Die. Yeah my bad I hosed that up now that I'm looking over the model number on the trident z again. It's also just samsung ram probably The model #s don't exactly match up on either of them when going from gskill's website to a MSI mobo that has the ram on their QVL per gskill F4-3600C16d-16GVK (qvl, samsung, not b-die) vs F4-3600C16d-32GVKC (what I think the ram is per gskill's website) for the Ripjaws F4-3600C16D-16GTZ (qvl, samsung, not b-die) vs F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC (also qvl, SK hynix J) vs F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC (what I think the ram is) for the Trident Z I may just be bad at this though / looking at the Trident Z they pull from multiple sources depending on the model #
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I'm sorry, I didn't think it was need but here are the model numbers : 1. G.Skill Trident Z Neo DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3600, CL16-19-19-39 (in my MB's QVL) F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC 2. G.Skill RipJaws V DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3600, CL16-19-19-39 (not in my MB's QVL) F4-3600C16D-32GVKC
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The Trident neo is Hynix CJR. I can't find anything on the Ripjaw, but it's probably similar. Could be Micron E.
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Thoughts on this? CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($95.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($281.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT H510i ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.98 @ Amazon) Total: $911.94 Looking to last me 4-5 years. I have a 1080p monitor and don't expect to upgrade that anytime soon. My initial thoughts is this is more than I initially expected to pay, but whatever, I haven't done this in ~5 years because of crypto prices impacting GPUs. No other storage, but I'll probably buy a 12TB 3.5in drive at some point (currently have two 4TB reds running RAID0 in my setup). E: gently caress I need to add a cooler too..
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Bank posted:Thoughts on this? If you don't need the wireless, get tomahawk max since you have a mid tower, it's cheaper, and you don't need to flash it for 3000 series. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max
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Thanks! Completely forgot I was initially doing an ITX build..
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Bank posted:Thoughts on this? Here's some tweaks: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Inland Premium 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB SC Ultra Black Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg) Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg) Total: $778.94 CPU: The 3600 is a great processor, but no one knows for sure what core demands will look like for games released after the next console generation. AM4 motherboards have a lot of good drop-in upgrade options, though, and there's a good chance the next generation will be compatible as well. If you want to save some money, you could drop down to a 2600 - on a 60Hz monitor you're not going to see a difference right now, though it'll definitely start showing it's age a bit before a 3600 would. CPU Cooler: I'd start with stock - it's totally sufficient for keeping the 3600 cool. Some people find it too loud, but you can always pick up a cooler later if it bothers you. Motherboard: No reason to put an itx board in an atx case! The Tomahawk is a great mid-range choice for ATX. If you want built-in wifi, the Pro Carbon AC isn't much more and also gets you an extra M.2 slot, a VRM upgrade, and an onboard sound upgrade. You'll be stuck with a keyboard-only bios, though, and you may need to upgrade the bios using a usb stick before installing the 3600. Storage: I know some people disagree with me here, but I don't think saving $10 is worth buying a QLC NAND drive. The Inland Premium is a proper TLC drive and the Kingston A2000 is a good alternative with a 5-year (vs 3-year) warranty if you don't mind an extra $5. Alternatively, the Adata su800 is the same price as the P1 and you're really not going to see a significant difference between an NVMe and SATA drive for gaming. Video Card: The 1660 Super is within a few percent of 1660 Ti performance, and quite a bit cheaper! The Black is the cheapest option and should have the same manual overclocking ability as the $10-more-expensive factory-overclocked SC Ultra Gaming. Case: The fan controller that comes with the 'i' version isn't very good, plus the H510 is best in stock exhaust-only configuration anyway! Power Supply: Save a bit for a functionally equivalent psu. E: OS: If you're decommissioning your old computer, you may be able to reuse it's Windows 7/8/10 to activate Windows 10 on the new computer. Otherwise you can get Windows 7 Pro keys from SAMart for $19, which will work to activate Windows 10 Pro.
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KillHour posted:The Trident neo is Hynix CJR. I can't find anything on the Ripjaw, but it's probably similar. Could be Micron E. So, I take it it's probably better to go with the Neo since they're part of the boards QVL? I actually got the prices wrong before, it's 173 Euro for the Trident Z vs 134 Euro for the Ripjaws V.
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Incessant Excess posted:So, I take it it's probably better to go with the Neo since they're part of the boards QVL? I actually got the prices wrong before, it's 173 Euro for the Trident Z vs 134 Euro for the Ripjaws V. With 32GB 3600 sticks, I'd definitely recommend sticking to QVL. 3200/16 is mostly okay, but people have had issues with 32gb and 3600 kits in the past. You could check G.Skill's QVL list for the Ripjaws as well, since they're often more up-to-date than motherboard's QVL lists.
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Stickman posted:You could check G.Skill's QVL list for the Ripjaws as well, since they're often more up-to-date than motherboard's QVL lists. Thanks, I'll go with the Trident Z in that case. I did actually check the G.Skill QVL list for the cheaper kit already and the MB is not there (the Asus X570 ITX one).
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Bank posted:Thanks Stickman for the suggestions! Looks like you're saving me a chunk of cash You're welcome! I forgot to click memory - I'd go with a 3200 kit like G.Skill Ripjaws (or Trident if you want RGB). I suspect those are cheaper than the 3000 Vengeance kit. Incessant Excess posted:Thanks, I'll go with the Trident Z in that case. I did actually check the G.Skill QVL list for the cheaper kit already and the MB is not there (the Asus X570 ITX one). Yeah, you might be able to get it working but it's a huge hassle when it doesn't  On the other hand, the gaming performance difference between 3600 and 3200 ram is tiny so you if you want to save some money you could drop down to a 3200 kit!
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Current build is about five years old, so I'm getting build-curious. What's the current recommendation for Performance Gamer? I don't see it in the new thread OP.
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Look Sir Droids posted:Current build is about five years old, so I'm getting build-curious. What's the current recommendation for Performance Gamer? I don't see it in the new thread OP. Phone posting so I can't get you the link but check my post history on this thread. You will find it near the beginning. It Breathes hasn't linked it yet. Bank posted:Looking to last me 4-5 years. The 1660 Super that Stickman recommend won't be good for 4 to 5 years. It isn't a big deal just be prepared to upgrade the GPU if you want a solid 60 fps in about 24 to 36 months time. It is still a good value option and what I recommend as well. It is better than trying to future proof by buying something significantly more expensive now.
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As it stands, does the B450 Tomahawk require the BIOS Flash for a Ryzen 5 3600? Also, is the Radeon 5700 safe to buy? There are practically daily posts in r/AMD asking about what games are/aren't working, performance issue, and more than a handful of people state about games stuttering or crashing. Are these just a whiny minority? Or is it more of a buyer beware thing?
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Look Sir Droids posted:Current build is about five years old, so I'm getting build-curious. What's the current recommendation for Performance Gamer? I don't see it in the new thread OP. It depends what you mean by "performance gamer": "Competitive gamer, drat the cost, must wring every last fps out of the machine, even if it means turning down settings:" - i7 9700k/9900k - Hefty cooler like the Noctua D15s for overclocking - At least a Gigabyte Aorus Pro Z390 motherboard - 16GB RAM (or 32 if you want, but nothing requires it), probably 3600+ with good subtimings - 2080 Ti "60+ fps in almost all games @1440p Ultra/Very High, but cost effective" - Ryzen 3600/3700x - Stock cooler is fine, but maybe an Arctic Freezer 34 or Mugen 5 if you want it to be quieter - MSi B450 Tomahawk Max, or Asus TUF X570 Gaming if you want the extra features - 16GB 3200/3600 RAM - 5700 XT or 2070 Super Stickman fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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MikeC posted:Phone posting so I can't get you the link but check my post history on this thread. You will find it near the beginning. It Breathes hasn't linked it yet. Got it. Flex 1080p at 100+ FPS or 1440p at 60+ FPS is exactly what I'm looking for, actually. Will likely end up lower than that, somewhere in between there and budget 1080. I'll most likely stick with 1080 gaming, but I'd like the option to do 1440 if/when I want to shell out for a new monitor. Look Sir Droids fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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The 1400p system Stickman quoted is just around $1000, for some points of reference. Probably the only savings there are going for the Ryzen 2600 over the 3600 and a lesser video card, but I'd probably just shell for the 3600 so when you do upgrade the GPU you aren't constrained. You could probably eek a few dollars out of the config just watching sales/rebates over the coming 5-6 weeks, but that's a rock solid value. edit: Someone at work was asking me about a prebuilt and... you know what? Yeah this isn't bad. You can barely buy the parts for this price. Dell Outlet Alienware Aurora R8 Intel Core 9th Generation i5-9600K Processor (6 Core, Overclocked up to 4.4GHz on all cores, 9MB Cache, 95W) Windows 10 Home 1TB 3.5inch SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM) 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive 16GB (2X8GB) 2666MHz DDR4 UDIMM Non-ECC 8X DVD+/-RW NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB OC GDDR6 $1,043.00
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Look Sir Droids posted:Got it. Flex 1080p at 100+ FPS or 1440p at 60+ FPS is exactly what I'm looking for, actually. Will likely end up lower than that, somewhere in between there and budget 1080. I will say that PC builds are never static, and if you wait any significant amount of time, prices will change, which is why people really don't like to make specific recommendations unless the person is ready to purchase. Whip something up in pcpartpicker or check out logicalincrements.com when you're closer to purchasing, and then come back here with a prospective build list, and we will tweak it for maximum value and performance. That said, the performance level you're looking for should be able to be reached without ascending into positively eye-watering price territories.
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charity rereg posted:The 1400p system Stickman quoted is just around $1000, for some points of reference. Probably the only savings there are going for the Ryzen 2600 over the 3600 and a lesser video card, but I'd probably just shell for the 3600 so when you do upgrade the GPU you aren't constrained. You could probably eek a few dollars out of the config just watching sales/rebates over the coming 5-6 weeks, but that's a rock solid value. The only problem is System Integrators LOVE to cheap out on power supplies. It's the easiest place to cut cost from parts and preserve short-term performance, while pocketing the margin you've freed up on the build. If it doesn't list a power supply it's probably a cheap chinese firecracker that has like a 3 year warranty.
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orange juche posted:The only problem is System Integrators LOVE to cheap out on power supplies. It's the easiest place to cut cost from parts and preserve short-term performance, while pocketing the margin you've freed up on the build. Dell's pretty reliable, it's not in their best interest to explode $1000 worth of parts to save a few bucks. I buy a quarter million from dell a year and haven't had a PSU explode in years, and those that did weren't catastrophic. Don't touch the Inspiron line tho. This was a high margin $1700 machine, the Outlet has great deals. I bought a top end XPS 15 and returned it and they begged me to keep it (20% off) otherwise they'd take a bigger loss in the outlet. I also don't want to build this guy at my work a PC 
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charity rereg posted:Dell's pretty reliable, it's not in their best interest to explode $1000 worth of parts to save a few bucks. I buy a quarter million from dell a year and haven't had a PSU explode in years, and those that did weren't catastrophic. Don't touch the Inspiron line tho. Fair enough, my only concern with that build would be storage space, where modern games are already topping 110GB per install, and potentially 6 core CPUs with no SMT being obsoleted pretty hard by the next generation of consoles. E: If Microsoft is targeting 4k gaming at 120FPS or 8k with upscaling, you'd need a beefy as hell CPU to process the game logic at that speed, let alone GPU requirements, so either it's less than true 4k and upscaled, or it's a no poo poo, fully enabled Zen 2 processor, in which case that could make CPU decisions pretty rough for the future. I'm also not seeing 4k at 120FPS being possible GPU wise on what is currently available at appropriate price points for integration into a console, unless there's some silver bullet we haven't seen yet. I guess you could restrict quality to preserve framerates, but that's not gonna sell a console to gamers, because they're gonna chase pretty graphics over all else. orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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The 9600k is very suspect right now. We know for a fact it is dropping frames and causing stuttering in some games already, especially battlefield multiplayer. This will get worse. There is no way Xbox scarlet is doing true 4k at 120 FPS natively. The hardware doesn't exist for that anywhere close to an acceptable price point. Unless AMD is about to blow us away with "Big Navi". But it is a custom Zen 2 8 core part that will be in both the Sony and MS machine. They most definitely will be scaling graphics or doing some sort of cheating on the resolution like they did way back with the original xbox when it was 1080i, not 1080p or by upscaling. This is not uncommon. Remember games are continually having "visual downgrade" drama because developers have to keep compensating for consoles.
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My 6 years old pc just died so I'm in the market for a new one. I started from the Modest Amd Gaming build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/guide/rgj48d/modest-amd-gaming-build, upgraded to 32gb RAM and switched a cheap SSD for an intel one (thinking it should be more reliable). I choose the video card only because it's been mentionned on page 12 of this thread I didnt do much research on it myself. I will be gaming on one 1920x1080 monitor as well as programming on 3 monitors. CAme up with this and looking for suggestions : PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.00 @ Canada Computers) Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.50 @ Vuugo) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Memory Express) Storage: *Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.92 @ Mike's Computer Shop) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB SC Ultra Black Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($54.99 @ Memory Express) Power Supply: *Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Memory Express) Total: $1056.36 AskYourself fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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Scenario: thinking of upgrading the GPU in my nVidia-based US gaming PC which skipped the GPU upgrade last time, also recentlyish got a 3440x1440 display (frequently constrain games to 2560x1440, tho part of the idea is to stop doing that some or all of the time). Current desire is to run titles like Wolfenstein II, Dishonored 2, RDR2, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, etc without having to drop the graphics levels down too far. I could go nuts but I feel silly spending more than ~$500 on a GPU. A peek at NewEgg says that means a 1660 Super or Ti, a 2060 Super, or a vanilla 2070 (excluding options w/ GDDR5 or 6GB RAM; I don't see the point of getting prev-gen memory, and like doubling.) Curious where the best-value-for-money point is right now, or if I'm being hasty and should wait for some impending generation because a 970 is still fine (empirically, it is, but...). PCPartsPicker of my current system: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4 GB Twin Frozr V Video Card Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
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This would be an excellent value for you: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932208 At that resolution it benches with the 2070, sometimes closer to the 2070 Super: https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/9054/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-benchmarked-3440x1440/index5.html
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What country are you in? - In Canada, have a Memory Express nearby that will flash a b450 board for free if I buy the mobo/CPU from them. What are you using the system for? ... - System is for Photoshop art work and web/office/media general main machine use. What's your budget? ... - Looking to spend about $1000 for this upgrade, carrying over old drives and GPU (at least temporarily). If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? ... - Painting in Photoshop, might occasionally use Maya, Blender, Zbrush, Unreal Engine. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? How fancy do you want your graphics?... - 1080p atm. No problem upgrading GPU if I get a fancier monitor. Gaming is not a priority but I would like to be able to at least run some games if I do feel like checking them out. (Doom, Street Fighter, Ori). My main question is - I've been wanting to do an mITX build forever and looking to put together a Ryzen 5 3600 and something like a 1650 Super in a b450 board. Memory Express has these two b450 mITX boards in stock that they can flash for me. Is there any preference between the two? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gBWfrH/msi-b450i-gaming-plus-ac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b450i-gaming-plus-ac https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/kbx2FT/asus-rog-strix-b450-i-gaming-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-i I have this preliminary build pieced together : PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($222.88 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($167.98 @ Amazon Canada) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($195.98 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($225.24 @ Vuugo) Case: Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case ($100.78 @ Canada Computers) Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($128.78 @ Newegg Canada) Case Fan: CRYORIG QF120 Silent 44 CFM 120 mm Fan ($21.25 @ Amazon Canada) Total: $1062.89 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-23 02:21 EST-0500 Thanks!
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The Asus is much more full-featured than the MSi: 2x M.2 slots, USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports (the MSi only has Gen 1), top-tier onboard sound, and Intel LAN. If you care about any of those, the Asus might be worth the extra $30. Otherwise, the MSi will work just fine! I'd also consider holding off a few days on the 1650. The 1650 Super just launched stateside and it's a 30-40% performance boost for 20 extra bucks. E: If you don't mind spending a little extra, the dual-fan EVGA or Gigabyte cards are nice because the fan stops spinning under light loads. MSi's "Gaming X" card does the same thing, but the Ventus always spins (slowly, though). Stickman fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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Morter posted:As it stands, does the B450 Tomahawk require the BIOS Flash for a Ryzen 5 3600? On the hardware sites I visit (not  ) I don't see as many RX 5700 issues being reported - there were a bunch of problems with the drivers when the cards launched, but I think they have been fixed, and if a new game has issues that's generally addressed with a day-/week-1 driver update.
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I am dumb and accidentally picked up a pair of 5v PWM Noctua NF A12x25 instead of the regular PWM versions, figured this out only after installing them and finding out that the rpm readings are real weird. Can I use the fans without killing them and what's the downside?
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"Being a 5V fan, the NF-A12x25 5V PWM cannot be run at 12V and will be damaged when used with typical 12V power sources such as PC motherboard fan headers. "
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Hey MikeC, I've linked your build guide post in the OP. Can you do me a favor and put in the full PCPP BBcode output on the example builds? As someone who primarily posts on mobile its a lot easier when people put the full thing instead of just a link, and I'd rather set the example in the OP. Thanks for putting this together!
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Alright heading out to a local Microcenter to get mobo and cpu, maybe some other stuff. One big thing I've noticed is that there's no clear indication on how well 32 gb of RAM (which, yes, I want) will be on a B450 motherboard, from Ripjaws to Corsair to Trident, it's about half-and-half "works great"/"runs like poo poo". Anyone have any experience or very reliable source on what I should look for? I don't need blazing fast speed but at least a steady performance (as I'm mainly gaming).
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Hey thread, not sure if this is the best place but figured I'm not too far off the mark. I recently upgraded my old i7-6700K system and now have the CPU and 32GB of 2400 of RAM. I was going to sell it, but then I started thinking there is a ton of life still in a 6700K and remembered my mom is rocking a totally ancient ~something~ I built for her 10 years ago. I think for Christmas I might make her a new system with this BUT I am having a heck of a time finding a motherboard (H110/B250/Z170/Z270 chipset has been discontinued for some time) to go with it. Only thing I can find is a full size H110 ATX mining board. Which I guess would work, but it's going to be a much bigger case than I hoped. Any sources for old stuff to check? Preferebly  ? Or, even better yet, any of those bare-bones sets with case that might still take a Skylake?
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